Tim Walz Signed Bill Making Minnesota a Sanctuary State for Child Sex-Changes

[Vambram]

Eww, that is gross. We need to go back 20 or 30 years ago, where none of this woke stuff happened. Time to vote 3rd party guys.

Peter Sonski 2024

Peter Sonski and the American Solidarity Party are many years away from gaining significant political influence in America. However, the GOP is indeed trying to stand up strong against ALL of this woke stuff.

 

[AlexB23]

Honestly, I fail to comprehend how Christians can support the so-called gender affirming care being pushed by the progressive left and the transgenderism agenda.

I fail to comprehend that also. There are a lot of left-wing Christians in my city that support this woke stuff, especially folks my age. This stuff is messed up.

Here are the most woke denominations that I have heard about in my experience: ELCA, UCC, some of the PCUSA and the Methodists. Pray for them, that these denominations turn back to God and the Bible.

 

[AlexB23]

Peter Sonski and the American Solidarity Party are many years away from gaining significant political influence in America. However, the GOP is indeed trying to stand up strong against ALL of this woke stuff.

True, I do agree on that, but we need a GOP candidate who has polite mannerisms, one that has the capability of getting a 60% landslide victory. Trump doesn't make the cut. Mitt Romney would, or Liz Cheney.

 

[AlexB23]

It looks like God is calling me to vote 3rd party, cos of the Easter trans stuff, the woke Olympic ceremony, and now this: MN governor allowing for gender bending. 2024 has been the most woke year ever in the modern era, if not our entire history.

 

[Occams Barber]

It looks like God is calling me to vote 3rd party, cos of the Easter trans stuff, the woke Olympic ceremony, and now this: MN governor allowing for gender bending. 2024 has been the most woke year ever in the modern era, if not our entire history.

Merriam Webster has an excellent on-line dictionary.

I recommend you look up 'hyperbole'.


OB

 

[AlexB23]

Merriam Webster has an excellent on-line dictionary.

I recommend you look up 'hyperbole'.


OB

I love Merriam Webster. Yes, I use hyperbole a lot. What do you think was the most woke year in recent history? I'd say 2024, or at least 2023.

 

[Vambram]

True, I do agree on that, but we need a GOP candidate who has polite mannerisms, one that has the capability of getting a 60% landslide victory. Trump doesn't make the cut. Mitt Romney would, or Liz Cheney.

Mitt Romney and Liz Cheney don't even have enough current supporters and voters from the people who know them best, i.e. the voters in Utah and Wyoming. In my opinion, Romney and Cheney are failures who are also part of the elitist establishment politicians.

 

[Occams Barber]

I love Merriam Webster. Yes, I use hyperbole a lot. What do you think was the most woke year in recent history? I'd say 2024, or at least 2023.

"Woke" is an American idiom. Although I've come across it on CF and in US news, it isn't a word which I would normally use apart from in a sleeping context.

You will also find that Australia is on the left of the political spectrum compared to the US. In fact, most developed western countries are politically left of the US. This has a lot to do with the US having a relatively high level of religiosity. Much of what you describe as 'woke' I would see as normal and reasonable. I see much of the US as somewhere to the right of Genghis Khan and socially backward.

OB

 

[essentialsaltes]

Honestly, I fail to comprehend how Christians can support the so-called gender affirming care being pushed by the progressive left and the transgenderism agenda.

Maybe because what people are actually doing is affirming care supported by evidence-based research and professional medical ethics.

 

[AlexB23]

Mitt Romney and Liz Cheney don't even have enough current supporters and voters from the people who know them best, i.e. the voters in Utah and Wyoming. In my opinion, Romney and Cheney are failures who are also part of the elitist establishment politicians.

Yeah, but these folks remind me of the old-school Republicans of the 2000s, the best era in my lifetime, though I was just a kid. We need some even more old-school 1970s-1980s Republicans from before the Tea Party movement of the late-2000s/early-2010s, such as Reagan and Nixon (yes, Nixon had Watergate, but everything else he did was alright).

I love politicians who are classy, polite, even-tempered, down-to-earth, follow Galatians 5:22-23 with the fruits of the Spirit and have a good sense of humor. Sadly, we lost those classier versions of politicians in the days of social media and divisiveness. Maybe, I was born 10-30 years too late.

 

[AlexB23]

"Woke" is an American idiom. Although I've come across it on CF and in US news, it isn't a word which I would normally use apart from in a sleeping context.

You will also find that Australia is on the left of the political spectrum compared to the US. In fact, most developed western countries are politically left of the US. This has a lot to do with the US having a relatively high level of religiosity. Much of what you describe as 'woke' I would see as normal and reasonable. I see much of the US as somewhere to the right of Genghis Khan and socially backward.

OB

Bro, there are Australians and Europeans who are tired of the LGTV stuff also. And yes, Europe is a bit left of the US, but even the Europeans know that this trans stuff is messed up. American elites (on both sides of the aisle, such as Big Oil and Big Pharma) and corporations seem to poison their population, while the Europeans care about protecting their population.

Sweden bans gender bending for teens:

Why is Sweden restricting hormone therapy and surgery for trans teens?

Sweden, a pioneer in LGBTQ rights, is now restricting gender-affirming treatments for minors, citing concerns about their long-term side effects.

www.euronews.com

 

[Hans Blaster]

It looks like God is calling me to vote 3rd party, cos of the Easter trans stuff, the woke Olympic ceremony, and now this: MN governor allowing for gender bending. 2024 has been the most woke year ever in the modern era, if not our entire history.

Alex, you are letting the right wing's weird obsession with transpeople distort your politics. From posts to this to the desperate yearnings for conservative Republicans (Romney, Cheney) to run as Democrats for President.

The "Easter trans stuff" is a RW lie. Whomever it was that created "Transgender Day of Visibility" placed it on the same day each year (Mar 31st, if I recall), and had so for 20+ years. President Biden issued a proclamation for that day at least once before this year and did so again this year when that slippery, floating holiday (Easter) moved to the same day for one year and one year only. Pres. Biden also issued a statement about Easter and did not reference the day of visibility in it (or vice versa). That proclamation was not an attack on Easter. Those that tell you it is are lying to you.

As for the "woke Olympics" nonsense, that wasn't the "Last Supper", it was referencing a dining tableau from Greek art featuring the Greek gods. (The culture from which the Olympics originates.) The give away was the "blue guy" as Dionysus, the god of wine. There is no Dionysus in da Vinci's painting. In fact, da Vinci is referencing that very imagery when he reimagined the scene from the Passion of Jesus.

 

[FireDragon76]

"Woke" is an American idiom. Although I've come across it on CF and in US news, it isn't a word which I would normally use apart from in a sleeping context.

You will also find that Australia is on the left of the political spectrum compared to the US. In fact, most developed western countries are politically left of the US. This has a lot to do with the US having a relatively high level of religiosity. Much of what you describe as 'woke' I would see as normal and reasonable. I see much of the US as somewhere to the right of Genghis Khan and socially backward.

OB

Some of that is more a reflection on our broken, and undemocratic politics, not necessarily Americans themselves. Evangelical Christians are a small minority in the US.

 

[Occams Barber]

Some of that is more a reflection on our broken, and undemocratic politics, not necessarily Americans themselves. Evangelical Christians are a small minority in the US.

From the outside looking in there are also cultural elements which are not necessarily limited to Evangelical Christians. One obvious American trait is the tendency to place personal rights above collective social responsibilities. Attitudes to guns, nationalised medicine, the US Covid death rate, the minimum wage, industrial conditions, poverty levels are all examples.

There is also a pronounced conservative lean over and above the influence of Evangelical Christianity. As I said earlier the US is politically further to the right than most other Western nations. Hierarchical status appears to be important along with 'respect' for authority. I would never, for instance, refer to our PM as 'Mr Prime Minister' - I'd call him 'Albo'.

The other characteristic I sense is insecurity which in turn leads to understandably self-centred 'survivalist, behaviour. This insecurity is a result of an extreme capitalist culture with limited safety nets (like 'free' medicine) and a relatively powerless working class. It may well be that this insecurity is part of the reason for high levels of religiosity and the apparent (?) high levels of mental illness.

I suspect that your "broken and undemocratic politics" are a consequence of some of these factors - not a cause.

OB

 

[FireDragon76]

From the outside looking in there are also cultural elements which are not necessarily limited to Evangelical Christians. One obvious American trait is the tendency to place personal rights above collective social responsibilities. Attitudes to guns, nationalised medicine, the US Covid death rate, the minimum wage, industrial conditions, poverty levels are all examples.

That might reflect the US government's origins in the Enlightenment focus on individual liberties, which was amplified with the rise of 1970's Neoconservativism and the philosophy of Ayn Rand.

Collective social responsibility was found as a virtue in the North American Colonial era when the country was more religiously and ethnically homogeneous. The Puritans, for instance, had an understanding of themselves as a covenanted people where social responsibilities were both implicit and explicit, and socially irresponsible behavior was punished. Even many of our Founding Fathers continued to approve of a certain kind of civic virtue based on collective sociability.

There is also a pronounced conservative lean over and above the influence of Evangelical Christianity. As I said earlier the US is politically further to the right than most other Western nations. Hierarchical status appears to be important along with 'respect' for authority. I would never, for instance, refer to our PM as 'Mr Prime Minister' - I'd call him 'Albo'.

Australians do seem to be more casual or informal in that respect, but I don't think whether one calls somebody "Mr." is an indicator of how authoritarian they are.

The other characteristic I sense is insecurity which in turn leads to understandably self-centred 'survivalist, behaviour. This insecurity is a result of an extreme capitalist culture with limited safety nets (like 'free' medicine) and a relatively powerless working class. It may well be that this insecurity is part of the reason for high levels of religiosity and the apparent (?) high levels of mental illness.

In the US, more financially secure and educated classes of people tend to be more involved in religious institutions (and institutions of all sorts), not less so. The white underclass in the US is substantially less involved in formal religion and community activities: during my lifetime, the US has moved to a low trust society, with lower classes leading the way. This might cause a difference in perception of social elites, perhaps the underclasses see community-building as elitist meddling, etc.

 

[Hammster]

Uh huh. Gender affirming care can include any of those things. The doctors recommend what they conclude is the most appropriate treatment for the situation. Gender reassignment surgery is very rarely if ever going to be appropriate for little kids.

But it’s lawful in Minnesota.

 

[Hammster]

Maybe because what people are actually doing is affirming care supported by evidence-based research and professional medical ethics.

That’s even scarier. Out of ignorance is one thing. But while professing to be wise? Oh my.

 

[KCfromNC]

That’s even scarier. Out of ignorance is one thing. But while professing to be wise?

Ignoring right wing talking points isn't ignorance. It's just good common sense, given how infrequently they align with reality.

 

[Hammster]

Ignoring right wing talking points isn't ignorance. It's just good common sense, given how infrequently they align with reality.

They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.
— Romans 1:29-32

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Whatever that means.

You don’t know who Anita Bryant is…?