Absolute proof.. can't deny.. the earth is flat

[Apple Sky]

Welll yeah, we can. Y'all just refuse to look at the proof.

What proof, a bunch of images offa NASA, these don't prove that there are craters on the moon.

 

[Apple Sky]

Since the 1500s, many people have sailed or flown completely around Earth in all directions, and none have discovered an edge or impenetrable barrier.

That's b/c all's they've done or do is circle the earth, round & round & round .............

A ton of different ways that prove we live on a sphere.

No you can't give me one proof that we live on sphere.

If you are still unable to believe in a sperical Earth, I think it's only fair to acknowledge that you believe in a flat Earth on faith alone and not by the scientific method.

You've forgot logic ........

 

[Apple Sky]

I've explained it to you twice now, and for the third time, the sun and moon do not get smaller as they get further away, thus your claim that the sun and moon disappear due to the law of perspective is false.

The reason why you & the masses believe that the earth orbits the sun is b/c you have all been literally indoctrinated since childhood, and I understand this I really do, as I was once like you, but then a load of logic rode home & I've never looked back.

Look at the stars, they tell you loads, they more or less speak to you.

 

[prodromos]

The reason why you & the masses believe that the earth orbits the sun is b/c you have all been literally indoctrinated since childhood, and I understand this I really do, as I was once like you, but then a load of logic rode home & I've never looked back.

Another baseless and false claim, and of course you have neglected to respond to the proof that your claims regarding the law of perspective are false.

Look at the stars, they tell you loads, they more or less speak to you.

Have you already forgotten that I have a telescope. What, pray tell, are the stars supposed to be telling me, other than the fact that they rotate around a celestial South pole in the Southern Hemisphere, in the opposite direction to those in the Northern Hemisphere, exactly as they would appear from a rotating globe.

 

[rturner76]

That's b/c all's they've done or do is circle the earth, round & round & round .............

Yes, they circle the sphere of the earth. When a pilot flies around the Earth, does the fact that they can fly along the same latitude or longitude from Australia to Australia and back around to Australia? They can do the same with the North and South POLE. both of these being East to West or North to South or vice versa repeated. If you can't understand how that alone proves that the Earth is round, In order to have any chance in a debate on this topic, you must learn how differentiate faith from fact. I believe ih

No you can't give me one proof that we live on sphere.

I now understand that. Your faith is admirable. I think that it is most applicable to the Spirit. It's about our relationship with our Higher Power and how we can get as close to that higher power and do his will.

I think our relationship with our faith is separate from our relationship with our mind's use of logic in a practical sense. The same way that logic is not the language of faith, faith is not the language of logic, There is no objective knowledge that can be gained if one disregards empirical data. Empirical data is demonstrated truth. Faith is truth that is believable by our desire to choose it.


I don't see how one could look at this topic logically, using empirical data when the only data that can be relied on is the data of faith. Faith is something that can be believed with no empirical evidence. At the same time, no data can be believed by someone using faith to consider empirical data.

 

[Apple Sky]

Another baseless and false claim, and of course you have neglected to respond to the proof that your claims regarding the law of probability are false.

Have you already forgotten that I have a telescope. What, pray tell, are the stars supposed to be telling me, other than the fact that they rotate around a celestial South pole in the Southern Hemisphere, in the opposite direction to those in the Northern Hemisphere, exactly as they would appear from a rotating globe.

Globe Earthers are taught the reason that the North Pole Star cannot be seen from southern locations like Australia or New Zealand is because it is hidden behind the supposed curvature of their globular Earth. Similar to what is taught about boats disappearing beyond the horizon, they claim these boats and the Pole Star are disappearing behind the physical curvature of a globe, and insist if the Earth was truly a stationary plane that Australians should have no trouble viewing Polaris...

 

[Apple Sky]

Yes, they circle the sphere of the earth. When a pilot flies around the Earth, does the fact that they can fly along the same latitude or longitude from Australia to Australia and back around to Australia? They can do the same with the North and South POLE. both of these being East to West or North to South or vice versa repeated.

No they can't fly round the north & south poles as on the f/e map the north pole is dead center and the south pole is Antarctica which circumferences the earth.

 

[prodromos]

The above video does not deal with the fact that the sun remains the same size across the sky. Its claims that sunsets are due to perspective are false. Nothing you have posted addresses this fact. Also, my spell check inadvertently changed "perspective" to "probability" in the above post. I've since edited it.

Globe Earthers are taught the reason that the North Pole Star cannot be seen from southern locations like Australia or New Zealand is because it is hidden behind the supposed curvature of their globular Earth.

No one taught me that. I don't recall polaris ever being mentioned in my 12 years of schooling. The only stars we really talked about in school were the Southern Cross and the two stars we refer to as the "Pointers". If a line is drawn bisecting the pointers, where it intersects with the vertical axis of the Southern Cross is roughly the location of the South Celestial Pole. Drop a line down from there and you are looking due South. Very helpful if you get lost in the bush.

Similar to what is taught about boats disappearing beyond the horizon, they claim these boats and the Pole Star are disappearing behind the physical curvature of a globe, and insist if the Earth was truly a stationary plane that Australians should have no trouble viewing Polaris...

As far as I can remember, that was never part of the school curriculum. That was just something I observed everytime I was at the coast. It wasn't part of any classroom education. If you have evidence that it is part of the school curriculum then by all means post it, but it seems to me you arte just making this up. Was it part of your school education?

All the videos you have posted have been trivial to debunk, and Eric "the idiot" Dubay has been proven to be a liar on many occasions. I'm not about to watch any more unless you give a really good reason. I have no desire to increase the wealth of these frauds by increasing the views of their rubbish videos.

 

[prodromos]

No they can't fly round the north & south poles as on the f/e map the north pole is dead center and the south pole is Antarctica which circumferences the earth.

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Your flat earth map is fantasy. Regular non stop flights between continents in the Southern Hemisphere are utterly impossible on your imaginary flat earth, yet they continue to fly every week.

 

[Apple Sky]

Your flat earth map is fantasy. Regular non stop flights between continents in the Southern Hemisphere are utterly impossible on your imaginary flat earth, yet they continue to fly every week.

Yeah but they don't fly over top of the world north to the bottom of the world south making one big circle.

 

[Apple Sky]

The above video does not deal with the fact that the sun remains the same size across the sky. Its claims that sunsets are due to perspective are false. Nothing you have posted addresses this fact. Also, my spell check inadvertently changed "perspective" to "probability" in the above post. I've since edited it.

Your claim & NASA's that the earth turns is ludicrous.

 

[prodromos]

Yeah but they don't fly over top of the world north to the bottom of the world south making one big circle.

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No, but polar satellites do.

http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/satellite/about_satellites.shtml

 

[prodromos]

Your claim & NASA's that the earth turns is ludicrous.

Still does not address the proof that sunsets are not due to perspective.

 

[Apple Sky]

No, but polar satellites do.

http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/satellite/about_satellites.shtml

This is a false image if ever I saw one.

 

[Apple Sky]

Still does not address the proof that sunsets are not due to perspective.

They are tho.

 

[prodromos]

This is a false image if ever I saw one.

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Of course it is. Did anyone claim it was a real photo taken from space?

 

[Apple Sky]

Of course it is. Did anyone claim it was a real photo taken from space?

There's not one real picture of the world ever taken from space.

 

[Lost4words]

There's not one real picture of the world ever taken from space.

Blimey, try to get out more my friend!

 

[trophy33]

There's not one real picture of the world ever taken from space.

You can even watch the live video stream from the ISS.

 

[prodromos]

There's not one real picture of the world ever taken from space.

Correct! There is not one, there are thousands.