It's been announced today that Joe Biden has "Covid" possibly his great disappearing act is now taking place?

[Truth7t7]

It's been announced today that Joe Biden has "Covid" possibly his great disappearing act is now taking place?

NEWSWEEK​

Joe Biden COVID Diagnosis Could Be Final 'Nail in Coffin': Analyst​

July 17, 2024

 

[Hammster]

It’s awfully convenient.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Way too convenient if you ask me...

But I will certainly pray for a speedy recovery from COVID for him...

 

[eleos1954]

It's been announced today that Joe Biden has "Covid" possibly his great disappearing act is now taking place?

NEWSWEEK​

Joe Biden COVID Diagnosis Could Be Final 'Nail in Coffin': Analyst​

July 17, 2024

If I were him ... I'd get a 2nd and 3rd opinion ... his entire party and donors have turned against him.

I'm not a Biden fan .... but he can stand his ground and they will indeed have to force him out .... they need to take action (if they are going to) pretty soon ... we will have to wait and see how this all plays out.

If Biden truly believes he can serve another term .... if I were him ... I'd get a 2nd and 3rd opinion on the covid thing.

 

[wing2000]

Is disappearing a symptom of COVID? Must be a new variant....

 

[Hammster]

Is disappearing a symptom of COVID? Must be a new variant....

The issue is that he said “If I had some medical condition that emerged, if somebody, if doctors came to me and said, 'You got this problem, that problem,'"

So this could be a precursor to that.

Alternatively, it keeps him away from making statements without a teleprompter.

 

[Richard T]

It's been announced today that Joe Biden has "Covid" possibly his great disappearing act is now taking place?

NEWSWEEK​

Joe Biden COVID Diagnosis Could Be Final 'Nail in Coffin': Analyst​

July 17, 2024

So many possibilities. The Presidency is up for grabs and the devils fight among themselves. There is spiritual handiwork all over this election.

 

[Arcangl86]

A politician, who constantly travels among large amounts of people in the middle of a pandemic getting said illness is not suspicious. Vaccines help a ton, but especially now, they aren't going to stop every case.

 

[probinson]

I think Biden has had at least 6 doses of vaccine. Maybe more.

 

[Truth7t7]

A politician, who constantly travels among large amounts of people in the middle of a pandemic getting said illness is not suspicious. Vaccines help a ton, but especially now, they aren't going to stop every case.

That's not what big pharma was saying during the planned demic

 

[Arcangl86]

That's not what big pharma was saying during the planned demic

Find me a single comment from big pharma saying that the vaccine will stop every single case of COVID. I'll wait.

 

[doughtz]

A politician, who constantly travels among large amounts of people in the middle of a pandemic getting said illness is not suspicious. Vaccines help a ton, but especially now, they aren't going to stop every case.

Curious what you think. Do you think Joe Biden is going to stay as the nominee through the whole election? And do you think, if he doesn't, that it is conspiracy or something else?

*just genuinely curious

 

[Arcangl86]

Curious what you think. Do you think Joe Biden is going to stay as the nominee through the whole election? And do you think, if he doesn't, that it is conspiracy or something else?

*just genuinely curious

It's a good question. I think so, but I'm not as sure of it as I was since both the Senate Majority Leader and House MInority leader have been public about asking him to step down as the candidate. If he does step down, it would be because he listened to the concerns of his party, which doesn't require any conspiracy.

 

[probinson]

Find me a single comment from big pharma saying that the vaccine will stop every single case of COVID. I'll wait.

You must be kidding.

95% effective. That was the Pfizer press release. That's what the media loudly declared. The problem? It was incredibly misleading.

In reality, that was the relative risk reduction (RRR). It failed to state the absolute risk reduction (ARR), which is <1%, as I'll show below.

The FDA's advice regarding RRR and ARR states the following:

“Provide absolute risks, not just relative risks. Patients are unduly influenced when risk information is presented using a relative risk approach; this can result in suboptimal decisions. Thus, an absolute risk format should be used.”​

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But of course, that didn't happen with COVID vaccines.

The Pfizer vaccine trial enlisted over 43,000 people. Here are the exact numbers for the vaccinated group vs. the placebo group.

Here we see that 21,720 people got the vaccine. Of those, 8 were infected.

We also see that 21,726 got a placebo and of those, 162 were infected.

Let's also not omit the fact that 43,276 out of the 43,446 (or >99%) didn't get infected REGARDLESS of their vaccination status.

Thus, the 95% efficacy claim because 8 is 95% less than 162.

Eureka! Break out the champagne and start issuing the mandates!

Not so fast, bub. To calculate absolute risk reduction, we must take the number of participants into account.

So for the vaccinated group, the percent that was infected was 8/21,720, or 0.03%
For the placebo group, the percent that was infected was 162/21,726, or 0.75%

So the ARR for the vaccine was just 0.71%.

Now that we have this statistic, we can also calculate the Number Needed to Vaccinate (NNV), or how many vaccinations are necessary to prevent one infection. This can be calculated by taking 1/ARR, or in this case, 1/0.007, or 141.

So they knew from their trial results that ~141 people would have to be vaccinated to prevent ONE infection.

Sounds a bit different than "95% effective", doesn't it?

But don't take my word for it. Here is an excellent scientific article talking about the outcome reporting bias in the COVID-19 mRNA vaccine clinical trials.

Outcome Reporting Bias in COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Clinical Trials - PMC

Relative risk reduction and absolute risk reduction measures in the evaluation of clinical trial data are poorly understood by health professionals and the public. The absence of reported absolute risk reduction in COVID-19 vaccine clinical trials ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

But they knew precisely what they were doing. Entire propaganda campaigns were set up to convince people that they were protecting themselves and others by getting vaccinated with the 95% efficacy number shouted from the rooftops. No one told them that their absolute chances of being infected were only being reduced by <1%, or that the clinical trial demonstrated that 141 people would have to be vaccinated to prevent a single infection. I suspect uptake would have been very different had there been true informed consent.

BTW, this is the THIRD time Biden has tested positive for COVID since his infamous statement, "You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations".

 

[doughtz]

It's a good question. I think so, but I'm not as sure of it as I was since both the Senate Majority Leader and House MInority leader have been public about asking him to step down as the candidate. If he does step down, it would be because he listened to the concerns of his party, which doesn't require any conspiracy.

And what if he doesn’t step down but has a medical reason for discontinuing? Could that be conspiracy?

 

[probinson]

And what if he doesn’t step down but has a medical reason for discontinuing? Could that be conspiracy?

I don't think it's "conspiracy" so much as "convenience". Biden has gone on record saying that he's the only one that can beat Trump and has stated loudly that he is going to run. A medical reason gives him a convenient way out while saving face. It's clear the Democrats don't want him, and he can't deny that reality any longer. I suspect by next week, he will no longer be their candidate. I'll be very interested to hear his exit speech.

 

[Arcangl86]

And what if he doesn’t step down but has a medical reason for discontinuing? Could that be conspiracy?

I mean it could but I don't believe there is some sort of cable behind Biden controlling his every action. That being said, he's an old man, so I can see him using illness as a reason to back off, either real on contrived. Honestly, I think he should never have been the candidate personally.

You must be kidding.

95% effective. That was the Pfizer press release. That's what the media loudly declared. The problem? It was incredibly misleading.

Last I checked, 95% is not 100% So they never claimed it would stop every single case, which is what I said, and you claimed they said otherwise.

 

[probinson]

Last I checked, 95% is not 100% So they never claimed it would stop every single case, which is what I said, and you claimed they said otherwise.

The claimed it would stop a heckuva lot more cases than it actually stopped:

Fauci:

So even though there are breakthrough infections with vaccinated people, almost always the people are asymptomatic and the level of virus is so low it makes it extremely unlikely — not impossible but very, very low likelihood — that they’re going to transmit it,” Fauci said.​

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Fauci added that vaccinated people essentially become “dead ends” for the virus to spread within their communities.​

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“When you get vaccinated, you not only protect your own health and that of the family but also you contribute to the community health by preventing the spread of the virus throughout the community,” Fauci said. “In other words, you become a dead end to the virus. And when there are a lot of dead ends around, the virus is not going to go anywhere. And that’s when you get a point that you have a markedly diminished rate of infection in the community.”​

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Fauci: Vaccinated people become ‘dead ends’ for the coronavirus

Anthony Fauci, chief medical adviser to President Biden, said during a discussion on Sunday about the Center for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) decision to drop mask recommendati…

thehill.com

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Walensky:

After warning for months that vaccinated people should still be cautious in order to not infect others, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggests they may not be at much risk of transmitting the coronavirus.​

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“Vaccinated people do not carry the virus — they don’t get sick,” Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the CDC, told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow on Tuesday. That’s “not just in the clinical trials, but it’s also in real-world data.”​

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CDC Data Suggests Vaccinated Don’t Carry, Can’t Spread Virus

Some public-health experts have pushed back on the CDC director’s claim that “vaccinated people do not carry the virus” and “don’t get sick.”

nymag.com

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[Super Kal]

I mean it could but I don't believe there is some sort of cable behind Biden controlling his every action. That being said, he's an old man, so I can see him using illness as a reason to back off, either real on contrived. Honestly, I think he should never have been the candidate personally.


Last I checked, 95% is not 100% So they never claimed it would stop every single case, which is what I said, and you claimed they said otherwise.

I cant speak for the Pfizer vaccine, but I do remember in 2020 watching all the news media sites mentioning that these vaccines had 100% cure rates, and then a few months later, that number slowly went down to 99%, 98%, 97%, 95%, 90%, 85%, and so on and so on...

 

[probinson]

Last I checked, 95% is not 100% So they never claimed it would stop every single case, which is what I said, and you claimed they said otherwise.

Are you just going to ignore everything else I posted? I mean, the clinical trials showed that we would need to vaccinate 141 people to stop ONE infection. Surely you're not going to engage in historical revisionism and pretend like the public health authorities and governments didn't VASTLY overstate the efficacy of the vaccine, are you?