Tucker Carlson warns a 'spiritual battle' is under way in America — then he reveals its No. 1 target: 'Very obvious now'

[Reasonably Sane]

Im always wary of idolizing the past. its been interesting to learn that the Bible says the same thing.

Something I picked up a few years ago that I now live by:
Learn from the past
Prepare for the future
Live in the present.

Changed my life.

The big problem in backward cultures in the Middle east is they are constantly trying to make up for past wrongs. And both sides always have justification ammunition so it never ends. No lessons learned. Just keep "getting even" while the other side keeps "getting even".

Maybe that's part of the wisdom in Jesus' words about turning the other cheek. Just sayin'.

 

[Laodicean60]

Tucker Carlson believes the attempted assassination of Donald Trump is evidence of an ongoing "spiritual battle" in the United States. Speaking at a Heritage Foundation event at the Republican National Convention, Carlson shared his view that "deeper" forces, like evil, are behind attacks like the one that occurred at Trump's campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.

The spiritual battle started a long time ago and this one isn't special. We are too busy looking for ghosts when the system is where the evil resides. If you look at all corporations and the government always wants a dime that is where evil resides because the love of money is the root of all evil and this comes from the heart.
Most people who act out or who commit suicide their way stems of mental problems.

"There are forces — and they're very obvious now; they've decided, for whatever reason, to take off the mask — whose only goal is chaos, violence, destruction."
According to Carlson, the forces that he identified are "dedicated to the destruction of people," and he believes they have a common enemy: Christians."

"The group that makes them angriest — triggers them most, I guess we would say now — is Christians," Carlson added, citing "Christian nationalism," "people who pray outside abortion clinics," and "people who celebrate Easter, not Trans Visibility Day."

Tucker is double speaking here. When you use the words them or they, you are speaking about people and that is flesh and blood. Sensational and dishonest media is what is fearing people.

"Earlier this year, Carlson argued the political conflicts happening in the U.S., which seem to be increasing in their existential nature, evidence a battle that is "not flesh and blood at all."

 

[durangodawood]

Something I picked up a few years ago that I now live by:
Learn from the past
Prepare for the future
Live in the present.

Changed my life.

The big problem in backward cultures in the Middle east is they are constantly trying to make up for past wrongs. And both sides always have justification ammunition so it never ends. No lessons learned. Just keep "getting even" while the other side keeps "getting even".

Maybe that's part of the wisdom in Jesus' words about turning the other cheek. Just sayin'.

For a lot of people (even me in bad moments) its:
Yearn for the past
Live in the future
Flee the present

 

[Hazelelponi]

I still have to say that I find this sort of thinking odd. Back in the day, we were a very practical people of faith. We knew that we needed to do the work to solve our own problems. There was time to pray for help, but the hard work to be done was not prayer but whatever was needed to be done here on Earth. I really hope things haven't changed that much.

The hard work is to remember to pray.

We have a tendency to focus, to the point of hyper focus at times, on our work, what we can physically do (build this, fix that) but it's often to the detriment of remembering to pray and to remain in prayer as we do the work.

 

[Hazelelponi]

That may be, but all I actually see is Christian nationalists corrupting the Gospel of Christ.

Is Tucker a Christian nationalist? Last I knew he simply went from nominal Episcopalian to a little more serious about the faith of his birth without going all in...

At best Tucker is recently saved... He's no Christian nationalist though.

 

[BCP1928]

Is Tucker a Christian nationalist? Last I knew he simply went from nominal Episcopalian to a little more serious about the faith of his birth without going all in...

At best Tucker is recently saved... He's no Christian nationalist though.

Is there an entrance test for Christian Nationalism? As far as I know, it is not even a requirement to be a Christian in order to be a Christian Nationalist. There is a range of beliefs that come under the umbrella.of Christian Nationalism Some actually do want a theocracy. Hammster recently posted (on the American Politics board) a Christian Nationalist manifesto which he favors, and which calls for a specifically fundamentalist Protestant theocracy. Others are less radical but the thing which ties them all together is the belief that the nations laws ought to be based on "Christian values" and the crypto-historical justification for that belief. Carlson certainly walks like that duck.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Oh. Thanks. I didn't think of that. I probably would have thought of it even when I was a Christian.

I still have to say that I find this sort of thinking odd. Back in the day, we were a very practical people of faith. We knew that we needed to do the work to solve our own problems. There was time to pray for help, but the hard work to be done was not prayer but whatever was needed to be done here on Earth. I really hope things haven't changed that much.

He's speaking to a specific set of Christians who lean heavily on what is, essentially, superstition (though they don't identify it as such, obviously) and fear. Kathy Bates' character in Waterboy sort of parodied it by describing everything, including foosball [sic] as "the devil."

Saying that there's no temporal explanation for something that happens fairly regularly seems ludicrous to many of us (because it is), but it lights up those folks inclined to perceive demons and angels and what not at work around us all the time.

How can people give Tucker any credit at all? He's just pushing the buttons he knows will get a response.

The people giving him that response think he's right on the money.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Is there an entrance test for Christian Nationalism?

One can assume it starts with being Christian for goodness sakes...

Hahaha

 

[rjs330]

Yes we are in a spiritual battle. We always have been. The devil has always been about destruction and chaos. He is the great deceiver and the father of lies seeking people to devour.

Christians have always been his enemy. The scripture is clear that as time goes on and we get closer to the last day, that even Christians will fall away. Because of increased wickedness the love of many for Christ will grow cold. Christians will become the enemy so much so that we will be killed for our faith. We will be the enemy.

That time is not yet.

Tucker is right about one thing. We are in a spiritual battle. Everything going on in the world has a spiritual component. Our enemy is not people. We forget that often. We Christians do need to do a better job of recognizing that. Myself included.

Our battle is NOT against flesh and blood. It's against principalities and powers in high places. The people around us are not the enemy. They have been decieved. Many Christians have been decieved. Conservatives have been decieved. Liberals have been decieved. Trump will not save this country. He said it himself, he is not the savior.

I know I come across far too often as attacking people. I need to do better at that. I am trying to counter ideas. Ideology that people believe in, because those ideologies are spiritual and destructive to the person.

There most certainly are conservatives who have fallen to destructive ideology. One of them being that people are our enemy. I'm going to try and do better. We'll see if I am successful.

 

[rjs330]

Is there an entrance test for Christian Nationalism? As far as I know, it is not even a requirement to be a Christian in order to be a Christian Nationalist. There is a range of beliefs that come under the umbrella.of Christian Nationalism Some actually do want a theocracy. Hammster recently posted (on the American Politics board) a Christian Nationalist manifesto which he favors, and which calls for a specifically fundamentalist Protestant theocracy. Others are less radical but the thing which ties them all together is the belief that the nations laws ought to be based on "Christian values" and the crypto-historical justification for that belief. Carlson certainly walks like that duck.

The thing is Jesus himself recognized that government, even a Christian one is not the answer. He flat out stated his kingdom was not of this world. No government can save humanity. We are all cartwheeling down the road to destruction. Only those who who cast thier faith in Christ and endure to the end will be saved.

We can't have enough Christian laws to save us. There won't be a true theocracy until Christ returns and sets foot on this planet. Anything before that is fake.

 

[wing2000]

The thing is Jesus himself recognized that government, even a Christian one is not the answer. He flat out stated his kingdom was not of this world. No government can save humanity. We are all cartwheeling down the road to destruction. Only those who who cast thier faith in Christ and endure to the end will be saved.

We can't have enough Christian laws to save us. There won't be a true theocracy until Christ returns and sets foot on this planet. Anything before that is fake.

Those who put their faith in the laws of man are lost. "Christian" laws or otherwise.

 

[rjs330]

Those who put their faith in the laws of man are lost. "Christian" laws or otherwise.

It's true. I mean we all agree that laws are important. And so many laws coincide with Christian law and Christian law coincides with many other laws.

Laws.are critical to maintain a society as long as they are just laws. The law of God is the only true just law. But the kingdom of God is not of this world. The laws of God are meant for one purpose only and it's to show what God requires of us to be in his presence. It's not meant to be a government of every country. Anyone who tries to make it so is missing the point.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

Tucker Carlson warns a 'spiritual battle' is under way in America — then he reveals its No. 1 target: 'Very obvious now' | Blaze Media

Carlson is not shy about telling it how he sees it.

www.theblaze.com

Tucker Carlson believes the attempted assassination of Donald Trump is evidence of an ongoing "spiritual battle" in the United States. Speaking at a Heritage Foundation event at the Republican National Convention, Carlson shared his view that "deeper" forces, like evil, are behind attacks like the one that occurred at Trump's campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. "I think what happened on Saturday — the assassination attempt against President Trump — reminded a lot of people of this or awakened a lot of people to this," Carlson said on Monday.
"There is a spiritual battle under way," he added. "There is no logical way to understand what we're seeing now in temporal terms. You just can't. These are not political divides. There are forces — and they're very obvious now; they've decided, for whatever reason, to take off the mask — whose only goal is chaos, violence, destruction."

According to Carlson, the forces that he identified are "dedicated to the destruction of people," and he believes they have a common enemy: Christians.

This spiritual battle has been going on for decades, if not centuries, by inches.

It's just more exposed to the public now.

 

[eleos1954]

Tucker Carlson warns a 'spiritual battle' is under way in America — then he reveals its No. 1 target: 'Very obvious now' | Blaze Media

Carlson is not shy about telling it how he sees it.

www.theblaze.com

Tucker Carlson believes the attempted assassination of Donald Trump is evidence of an ongoing "spiritual battle" in the United States. Speaking at a Heritage Foundation event at the Republican National Convention, Carlson shared his view that "deeper" forces, like evil, are behind attacks like the one that occurred at Trump's campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. "I think what happened on Saturday — the assassination attempt against President Trump — reminded a lot of people of this or awakened a lot of people to this," Carlson said on Monday.
"There is a spiritual battle under way," he added. "There is no logical way to understand what we're seeing now in temporal terms. You just can't. These are not political divides. There are forces — and they're very obvious now; they've decided, for whatever reason, to take off the mask — whose only goal is chaos, violence, destruction."

According to Carlson, the forces that he identified are "dedicated to the destruction of people," and he believes they have a common enemy: Christians.

Yes ... and as Christians we know this ...

Matthew 24

King James Bible
Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

whose only goal is chaos, violence, destruction."

Happening now and will increase as time goes on.

 

[BCP1928]

Yes ... and as Christians we know this ...

Matthew 24

King James Bible
Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.



Happening now and will increase as time goes on.

You're not speaking for all Christians, nor was Tucker Carlson speaking about all Christians.

 

[RileyG]

I am not confused with anything that Tucker Carlson said. As a Christian, Carlson is saying that evil is, and has been, attacking Christianity and anyone who wants to do good works for the Lord.

I agree.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

I'm amused by Tucker statement. Since he's a big part of the problem. He's lies, He tries to gets people in a hate liberals frenzy. Nothing he says, tells me, that he's Christian or a good person.

 

[AlexB23]

Yes ... and as Christians we know this ...

Matthew 24

King James Bible
Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.



Happening now and will increase as time goes on.

Let us add 2 Timothy 3:12 to the mix, as that verse pairs well with Matthew 24. We do not need any public figure to tell us that we are in spiritual warfare (also, I am not a fan of Tucker or anything FOX related, but he did speak the truth about the spiritual battle). I have known this for a few months now with all the dark stuff being promoted in 2024, but have heard about spiritual warfare in church as a 12-year-old as well in 2012 or so, but did not understand it.

2 Timothy 3:12 (KJV): "Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."

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[ThatRobGuy]

Does anyone know what Tucker is talking about? He is usually coherent, but I can't make out his meanings this time.

I'm assuming it was a "play to your audience" type of thing.

Given the forum he was speaking in, it's not terribly surprising (and he also used a lot of vague, abstracted, platitudes...for instance talking about "evil forces" - which could be basically be a catch-all for "anyone who does a vile or violent thing")


It's not uncommon for some of these pundit-type guys to be "politically bilingual", what I mean by that is they'll talk one way when they talk to the die hard section of their own base and really turn up the hyperbole and temperature on what they're saying, but then put on a much more reasonable and cordial front when they're talking to someone from the other side as a means of conveying "reasonableness" to the other team's audience.



Perfect example from the RNC yesterday...

I'm sure anyone who listens to political debates/podcasts are familiar with the names Cenk Uygur and Charlie Kirk. Cenk is pretty far left, and has no problem using some very abrasive language and tone when critiquing the right in front of a left-wing audience. Charlie is the same way when addressing a conservative crowd and "bashing the libs". The tone is typically very aggressive, and the hyperbole is through the roof.

Those two had a sit-down conversation during the RNC yesterday with each other for about a half hour, it was one of the most polite, civil, "give & take", "look at all these things we agree on" type conversations I've seen. They were both being self-deprecating, giving the other side a lot of latitude, etc...

...it's a totally different vibe when either of these guys are talking to an echo chamber.

 

[JustOneWay]

Tucker Carlson warns a 'spiritual battle' is under way in America — then he reveals its No. 1 target: 'Very obvious now' | Blaze Media

Carlson is not shy about telling it how he sees it.

www.theblaze.com

Tucker Carlson believes the attempted assassination of Donald Trump is evidence of an ongoing "spiritual battle" in the United States. Speaking at a Heritage Foundation event at the Republican National Convention, Carlson shared his view that "deeper" forces, like evil, are behind attacks like the one that occurred at Trump's campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. "I think what happened on Saturday — the assassination attempt against President Trump — reminded a lot of people of this or awakened a lot of people to this," Carlson said on Monday.
"There is a spiritual battle under way," he added. "There is no logical way to understand what we're seeing now in temporal terms. You just can't. These are not political divides. There are forces — and they're very obvious now; they've decided, for whatever reason, to take off the mask — whose only goal is chaos, violence, destruction."

According to Carlson, the forces that he identified are "dedicated to the destruction of people," and he believes they have a common enemy: Christians.

A spiritual battle? What a bunch of hogwash. He is using religion for attention. Now that we hear him, we should reject the attempt to divide the church more than it already is. Who listens to this garbage?