Project 2025 is NOT the Trump plan - do not get mislead

[bèlla]

Who are these useless people that have bee created by "AI"? Has anyone actually lost a job to useless AI?

Between you and I it isn't hyperbole. He's privy to the technology on the horizon and speaking from that position. He sees the humanoids and knows the numbers the companies will cut in response. The driverless trucks are ready and Dwave is cranking out the other.

If you want my professional advice invest in the technology. AI and humanoids are a sure bet.

~bella

 

[Hans Blaster]

You must understand it in its proper context. Sensible people know he's nuts but he echoes the narrative. Don't think too hard. The message isn't for 'you' the enlightened one it's for the rest. Get with the program!

~bella

If Harari is spreading nonsense, why repeat it here? Do we deserve to have our threads filled with nonsense?

 

[Hans Blaster]

Between you and I it isn't hyperbole. He's privy to the technology on the horizon and speaking from that position.

He sounds like one of those VC hype guys.

He sees the humanoids and knows the numbers the companies will cut in response. The driverless trucks are ready and Dwave is cranking out the other.

As a humanoid I am aware that driverless vehicles have crashed and burned of late and quantum computing is mostly hype plus a little code breaking.

If you want my professional advice invest in the technology. AI and humanoids are a sure bet.

~bella

Not really. I'm not looking for investing advice from internet posters.

 

[bèlla]

If Harari is spreading nonsense, why repeat it here? Do we deserve to have our threads filled with nonsense?

You're dealing with a populace that believes in maga and others who refute it. I'd think that was obvious.

~bella

 

[rjs330]

Do you think Trump is a left wing liberal? Why is his administration trying to distance itself from P25 if it’s so popular?

He may not agree with everything in there. So why would he endorse something like that when he doesnt agree with it all. It's not like everything in there is part of the Republican Platform. P25 is just a bunch of good ideas and if we can get some of them accomplished it would be good for America. I hope Trump is able to get a few of things going that are in it.

 

[rjs330]

There are areas and topics of agreement between The RNC GOP official party platform and the Project 2025 documents.

And there are topics where they don't agree.

 

[rjs330]

Areas and topics of agreement does NOT MEAN that these two entities and documents are going to be in lock step completely and totally with one another. Perhaps that is not too difficult to understand.

Well for some it will be.

 

[rjs330]

This is, by definition and in every sense of the term a "vast right-wing conspiracy" to install an authoritarian, right-wing president and gut the U.S. government as we know it to enforce right-wing, Christian nationalist ideology on the entire country.

I don't think any if that is contained within P25. In fact P25 is about taking away some of the power of government, not giving it more power. To force a Christian Nationalist ideology on the whole country would mean more power to the Federal.Governement.

 

[eclipsenow]

Can you cite a source for this claim?

This documentary was made back when Trump was still in power. The first half interviews psychiatrists and psychologists that have diagnosed Donald from all the footage of his behaviour in public. They make the point that they do not have to be Trump’s personal counsellor - as narcissism can be quite tricky to diagnose if you’re just going off what the client is telling you. But if you have thousands of hours of footage - it’s not so easy for them to hide what they are! In other words - they are more certain about Trump’s condition than some of their own clients!
It goes on to compare America today and checklists the sociological situation today with how various fascists in the past took over:-

• A disenfranchised working class
• A complex global situation simplified to easy answers
• Many problems blamed on undesirables in the country. (What sociologists call “Othering.”)

If you want a quick summary of the names involved - here they are. Psychologist-backed documentary labels Trump 'malignant narcissist' - France 24


Trump’s niece is a psychologist and has also diagnosed him Mary Trump Diagnoses the President

 

[eclipsenow]

Back on Project 2025, The Guardian reports:

“Project 2025 is more than an idea,” the California congressman Jared Huffman has warned, “it’s a dystopian plot that’s already in motion to dismantle our democratic institutions, abolish checks and balances, chip away at church-state separation, and impose a far-right agenda that infringes on basic liberties and violates public will.”

‘A dystopian plot’: how will Trump’s Project 2025 affect California?

The plan takes specific aim at California on abortion rights and green policies – but the state has ways to fight it

www.theguardian.com

Trump has already stacked the Supreme Court.
They have a plan to fire tens of thousands from the DOJ and load it with Trump loyalists.
What other checks and balances remain in place after that to prevent the USA becoming Gilead from Handmaid's Tale?

 

[frienden thalord]

That absolutely is the agenda of Jesus, who heads our Church. I also recommend establishing a person relationship with Jesus through prayer. The Bible is of great benefit, the Catholic way of approaching the Bible is to first say a prayer to the Holy Spirit for discernment.

Oh it is the agenda of Christ Jesus all right , only i seems to notice a whole mess of folks
that follow another jesus that chooses and picks only certain parts of the biblical message
and omits and even attacks other parts of what JESUS said . Namely
the fact that one absolutely MUST beleive JESUS TO BE the CHRIST .
We do realize the muslims follow another jesus , one they see NOT as the CHRIST , NOT as the SON of GOD
and even has him as an equal or slighly lower than they muhammed .
BUT many within both the catholic and protestant realm seems to think we and they and even other religoins
serve the same GOD . BIG mistake and a lie indeed that is .
Now concerning the biblical Jesus lets see what he told the jews who BELIEVED NOT on HIM as the CHRIST .
HAD you beleived MOSES you would have beleived ME , for he wrote of me .
SO no matter how much the muslims claim to follow abraham , moses or the law
THEY DONT . for had they heard the law , heard moses , heard the prophets
they would not REJECT JESUS AS THE CHRIST , THE SON OF GOD .
All i hear from both camps today is rather this other worldy love version of what it thinks is love , is of God
and is loving . But me oh my IT WONT focus on the DIRE NEED for folks to repent and believe ON JESUS as the CHRIST
rather it implies that anyone who loveth his neighbor , EVEN IF THEY BELIEVE NOT ON CHRIST , is of GOD .
But if we even examine their version of love your nieghbor we see NO LOVE for ones neighbor .
HOW SO you might ask .
HERE is how so .
YE shall not hate you neighbor in your heart , you shalll in any way rebuke them , correct them
and not allow sin upon them .
BUT i sees many sins and none corrects them . I see the MAIN SIN of UNBELEIF
for if they believe not that HE IS THE CHRIST then they shall die in their sins , GETTING OMITTED .
Now that dont sound like love to me .
And i even see a rainbow jesus and a love that money jesus , which i might add AINT JESUS
seeing HE is not and never will be the MINSITIR of anyones sin .
Sounds to me like SOMEONE has been using the name of JESUS and speaking only certain truths
but using the truths in a way to lead them to ANOTHER jesus . I know of only one entity
that would ever dare to do such a thing . AND IT AINT GOD either , though it do desire to be as GOD .

 

[BPPLEE]

Back on Project 2025, The Guardian reports:

“Project 2025 is more than an idea,” the California congressman Jared Huffman has warned, “it’s a dystopian plot that’s already in motion to dismantle our democratic institutions, abolish checks and balances, chip away at church-state separation, and impose a far-right agenda that infringes on basic liberties and violates public will.”

‘A dystopian plot’: how will Trump’s Project 2025 affect California?

The plan takes specific aim at California on abortion rights and green policies – but the state has ways to fight it

www.theguardian.com

Trump has already stacked the Supreme Court.
They have a plan to fire tens of thousands from the DOJ and load it with Trump loyalists.
What other checks and balances remain in place after that to prevent the USA becoming Gilead from Handmaid's Tale?

Wow. So they’re worried that Trump might do what Democrats have been doing and plan to do more of?

 

[BCP1928]

I don't think any if that is contained within P25. In fact P25 is about taking away some of the power of government, not giving it more power. To force a Christian Nationalist ideology on the whole country would mean more power to the Federal.Governement.

Christian Nationalists want social power. The purpose of reducing the poster of the National Government is to give Christian Nationalists more scope.

 

[wing2000]

He may not agree with everything in there. So why would he endorse something like that when he doesnt agree with it all. It's not like everything in there is part of the Republican Platform. P25 is just a bunch of good ideas and if we can get some of them accomplished it would be good for America. I hope Trump is able to get a few of things going that are in it.

Which things?

 

[Larniavc]

He has been diagnosed as having Malignant Personality Disorder.

I dislike Trump's patterns of behaviour and obvious flaws but has he been assessed for any psychological disorder? Assessment comes before diagnosis.

Ugh, I've defended Trump. I need to go lie down.

 

[Hans Blaster]

You're dealing with a populace that believes in maga and others who refute it. I'd think that was obvious.

~bella

So you post a different kind of nonsense???

 

[Always in His Presence]

@hislegacy

Now that Trump has chosen his running partner are you creating a thread to discuss their policies?

~bella

Probably not. This thread, though not intentioned to do so, has abundantly demonstrated the inability of a number of posters to recognize fact from propaganda.

The legacy media has so inundated the public with hate speech towards one candidate that fact gives way to vitriolic rhetoric.

 

[probinson]

This documentary was made back when Trump was still in power. The first half interviews psychiatrists and psychologists that have diagnosed Donald from all the footage of his behaviour in public.

Ah. So the opinions of people that have never met Trump. That's kind of what I thought.

You claimed that Trump has been "diagnosed" with this issue. That's false.

Some mental health experts say “Yes;” some say “No;” and many say they can’t say because they have never done a clinical interview with him and so it would be unprofessional to state an opinion about his mental health.​

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Malignant Narcissism: Does the President Really Have It?

There has been a lot of discussion about the president's behavior and mental state. Does he have malignant narcissism? And does it matter?

www.psychologytoday.com

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[JustOneWay]

The legacy media has so inundated the public with hate speech towards one candidate that fact gives way to vitriolic rhetoric.

The rightist media as so inundated the public with hate speech towards one candidate that fact gives way to vitriolic rhetoric.

It works both ways.

 

[Always in His Presence]

The rightist media as so inundated the public with hate speech towards one candidate that fact gives way to vitriolic rhetoric.

It works both ways.

At a Ratio of about 10 to 1.

Case in point - the sheer number of people completely convinced of debunked propaganda like:

Russian collusion
Good people on both sides
and now the 2025 Project is Trumps

It is the same leftist media that bemoans Trump wanting to punch a violent protestor in the head, (they had just assaulted a cop), that is completely silent on the President saying multiple time he would have brought Mr. Trump out back of the school house and "beat the hell out of him".

Biden says he would have 'beat the hell out' of Trump in high school for disrespecting women

Biden made the comments while speaking at an "It's on Us" rally.

abcnews.go.com