Did God save Trump? Why?

[Larniavc]

1 Samuel 8

I understand all too well. Tricked Saul into being King knowing full we the death and destruction that that would bring, even unto Saul and his son’s death.

I’m not sure your point. Why didn’t God tell Samuel to pick a better King?

 

[Larniavc]

Why did Abraham Lincoln not survive?
Why did Claus von Stauffenberg's attempt on Hitler's life end in failure?

God, apparently. According to what I’ve read on this site.

 

[Larniavc]

The actual bullet caught by a NYT photographer. (Doug Mills, a veteran photographer for The New York Times)
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That bullet is huge and totally the wrong shape. A flattened spheroid would have poor aerodynamics and it’s at least a foot long and about 8 inches wide.

Clearly not a real bullet.

 

[Larniavc]

Maybe God was giving him a chance to repent?

And all it took was two people dead. I hope he takes advantage of this unsolicited gift.

 

[Nithavela]

God sets the times when we live and die, so it is He who spared Trump and took the firefighter to be with him

By that metric every single death and non-death "smacks of a miracle".

 

[mindlight]

A cause that explains everything, explains nothing in particular.

God is the only cause that explains everything. All other causes explain only a little or nothing in particular. The paramount consideration is why God did this or that. Sometimes the reason is accessible, sometimes not and sometimes only as time passes and events unfold.

 

[Nithavela]

God is the only cause that explains everything.

And by explaining everything, he expects nothing.

Oooh, I just dropped an apple. God must have pushed it down.
Tide goes in, tide goes out.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

In the movie "The Dead Zone," the question was put forth: "If you had the chance to go back and kill Hitler, would you do it?"
That is the atmosphere and proposition the Democrat rhetoric is presenting radicals when they call Trump Hitler.

 

[Postvieww]

Is there actually anyone on this thread that believes God the creator of the universe has the ability to perform a miracle? Just a question ?

 

[JustOneWay]

One man dies a hero and goes to be with God.Another is given an extra season to posture and strut on the world stage. We all have our set times and to think on God's purpose is not unproductive or foolish

You have no idea that God saved Trump, or that the dead man is in heaven.

This is not a political discussion and should be moved away from the politics area of Christian Forums.

 

[Postvieww]

That bullet is huge and totally the wrong shape. A flattened spheroid would have poor aerodynamics and it’s at least a foot long and about 8 inches wide.

Clearly not a real bullet.

Must have been a flying saucer then. How did you come up with that description from that photo! Fake dossier, fake news, fake charges, now a faked bullet?? My friend if you have a camera fast enough to catch a bullet in mid air it just may look a foot long at the speed it is traveling.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Must have been a flying saucer then. How did you come up with that description from that photo! Fake dossier, fake news, fake charges, now a faked bullet?? My friend if you have a camera fast enough to catch a bullet in mid air it just may look a foot long at the speed it is traveling.

That occurred to me also.

 

[JustOneWay]

In the movie "The Dead Zone," the question was put forth: "If you had the chance to go back and kill Hitler, would you do it?"
That is the atmosphere and proposition the Democrat rhetoric is presenting radicals when they call Trump Hitler.

Basing this attack it on a Steven King movie? Are you calling for Christopher Walken or Herbert Lom to be arrested for being accomplices in the shooting?

 

[Nithavela]

That bullet is huge and totally the wrong shape. A flattened spheroid would have poor aerodynamics and it’s at least a foot long and about 8 inches wide.

Clearly not a real bullet.

I think what you are seeing is not the bullet itself, but rather distortion in the air, like a miniature con trail. Or some particle of Trumps ear as they were ripped off and followed the bulled.

 

[Postvieww]

By that metric every single death and non-death "smacks of a miracle".

Faulty analysis!

 

[Bobber]

So again the question is why would God spare one who in the opinion of some or many is a horrible no good individual. First we need to be careful not to be walking on ground where Jesus said judge not lest you be judged. Some in Jesus day were notorious for pointing fingers at others esteeming them "sinners" . The scripture speaks of something that took place in Jesus day where a tower to Shalom fell on a bunch of people and all were killed and the prevalent thoughts among the self righteous was it must have happened to them because they considered them great sinners! Jesus said this though,

There were present at that season some who told Him about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. And Jesus answered and said to them, “Do you suppose that these Galileans were worse sinners than all other Galileans, because they suffered such things? I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish. Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men who dwelt in Jerusalem? I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.” Lk 13:1

Many are so quick to want to throw stones at Trump but God's answer might be he that is without sin let him cast the first stone!

 

[Yarddog]

This attempted assassination could not have been closer. Another inch and Trump would have been dead. That smacks of Divine Providence but why would God save Trump?

He seems such a divisive figure somebody who would break the current world order jeopardizing the freedoms of countries all over the world. Ukraine and Taiwan are two examples. He is a proven liar, adulterer and fraudster so he has not earned any special grace, so why save the man? What does God want to do here?

Why would the Sovereign Lord permit Trump to survive?

It's impossible to know if God saved Trump or maybe God allowed a bad gunman to strike Trump in the ear. If God was involved, why would he allow a bullet to strike the firefighter and kill him.

Let's not try to blame God for this horrible event. God may have had nothing to do with this, either way.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Is there actually anyone on this thread that believes God the creator of the universe has the ability to perform a miracle? Just a question ?

I doubt anybody who believes in the existence of God doesn't believe He also has the ability to perform miracles. What folks like myself get bent out of shape about is the extreme cherry-picking of details required to describe an event like this as a miracle.

So, it's a miracle that Trump gets merely grazed by a bullet. Would it have been a miracle if the shot had been wide by a foot and not hurt him at all? What about if the cops had stopped him prior to squeezing off any rounds? Why is it a miracle that the bullet missed Trump, but killed somebody else and seriously injured two others? It's probably a safe bet that the professional fireman who dove on his family is an objectively better person and greater benefit to mankind than the serial philanderer who spent decades running casinos and cheating people and who tried to steal an election. Is the line getting into heaven so short that God had to juice demand by making a new hero? I doubt the Comperatore family is feeling much of an afterglow of this "miracle."

When you have to filter out this much other stuff in order to define a "miracle," then it's not a "miracle."

 

[bèlla]

I wish they'd leave God out of it and stop using Him as justification for their idolatry. Just admit you like Trump and call it day.

~bella

 

[durangodawood]

Is there actually anyone on this thread that believes God the creator of the universe has the ability to perform a miracle? Just a question ?

Question seems irrelevant as no miracle is necessary to explain these events.

But to answer your question: I dont know if there's a God who can perform miracles.