Biden’s recent statement to donors saying “it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye.”

[Servus]

The best example is the comments of Sarah Palin and the shooting of Gabby Giffords. Of course, Republicans, at the time, all uniformly denied there was anything wrong with what Sarah Palin said. And you see above how these types of comments are still being made today.

I will say that I don't believe the comments by Palin and Biden had anything to do with the shootings, despite the gun rhetoric. At the same time, I do think it is the type of imagery that politicians should quit using. I believe we also need to go back to when both sides could admit the other side loves the USA, even if they believe the ideas of the other side will not be good for the US.

Nowhere close to the President of the United States saying “it’s time to put [President] Trump in a bullseye”.

 

[Hazelelponi]

A number of Republicans are pointing fingers at President Joe Biden for Saturday’s shooting at a Trump rally, with some citing Biden’s recent statement to donors saying “it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye.”

In a Politico article shared Monday, Biden reportedly told donors: “I have one job, and that’s to beat Donald Trump. I’m absolutely certain I’m the best person to be able to do that. So, we’re done talking about the debate, it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye.”

Citing his recent comments, Republicans blame Joe Biden for Donald Trump rally shooting

President Biden recently told donors he wanted to "put Trump in a bullseye." Now some Republicans are blaming him for Trump's shooting.

www.usatoday.com

Honestly for all we know this was bought and paid for as a hit and about to be covered up by the FBI.

I don't trust them. Give me my local sheriff any day over the DNC enforcement arm that calls itself the FBI. The truth won't be found by them because they don't want it.

I think Trump needs to go back to paying for his own private security too. He used to because he didn't trust the secret service, it's time to go back to that stance... too much potential for risk because your trusting the people trying to put you in the ground.

 

[Servus]

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[durangodawood]

Time to cash in on this event!

 

[Bobber]

I think that speech in the USA is much too martial in many respects. Everything people don't like about, a "war" is declared upon. Metaphors regarding weapons abound. It doesn't lend itself to civil discourse. This is a larger, cultural problem, though, and has been going on for decades.

It's using extreme hyperbole to score points and can make some wonder if democracy is really worth it anyway. If mental states of great masses are created by making wild accusations to the end others become deluded then what value is such a system?

 

[ralliann]

I thought the pearl clutching around this sort of (extremely mild) rhetoric was silly when Gabby Giffords was shot and it’s still silly now. Shallow metaphors aren’t what amp up people to kill.

Oh, unless Trump used them. Silly metaphors turned into insurrection, people jailed and violent speech by the democrats.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Got any examples?

"Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish the Second Amendment," Trump said to the crowd of supporters gathered in the Trask Coliseum at North Carolina University in Wilmington. "If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks.

"Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don't know."

 

[iluvatar5150]

Oh, unless Trump used them. Silly metaphors turned into insurrection, people jailed and violent speech by the democrats.

Trump’s involvement in the Jan 6 insurrection was far more extensive than merely a bit of heated rhetoric. He was leading a multi-pronged approach to con his followers into believing a lie about a stolen election; swamp the courts with bogus suits; and insert phony electors into the certification process to steal votes.

Heated rhetoric the day of the event is the least of my complaints.

 

[Nithavela]

It's using extreme hyperbole to score points and can make some wonder if democracy is really worth it anyway. If mental states of great masses are created by making wild accusations to the end others become deluded then what value is such a system?

It's not a fault of democracy that the USA has a problem with its public discourse. Most countries with democracies don't have this kind of problem, so I think you're beating the wrong scapegoat.

 

[ralliann]

Trump’s involvement in the Jan 6 insurrection was far more extensive than merely a bit of heated rhetoric. He was leading a multi-pronged approach to con his followers into believing a lie about a stolen election; swamp the courts with bogus suits; and insert phony electors into the certification process to steal votes.

Heated rhetoric the day of the event is the least of my complaints.

See here it is...Won't give it up. Put the guy in jail.

 

[iluvatar5150]

See here it is...Won't give it up. Put the guy in jail.

I responded to your post. If you didn’t want to talk about Jan 6, you shouldn’t have brought it up.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Time to cash in on this event!

Is that any like Biden being cashed out by donors after his debate performance? (just curious)

 

[SimplyMe]

Nowhere close to the President of the United States saying “it’s time to put [President] Trump in a bullseye”.

Why does it need to be a competition for who is worse? Again, Trump has used this type of "gun rhetoric" before, a great example being Trump's "Second Amendment" quote against Hillary. And it does seem a double standard to claim Palin (who was still riding Tea Party popularity at the time) had no effect, and doesn't matter, but Biden's statement was horrible.

Can't we just agree it is bad when both sides do it, even though it likely has not affected any shootings, but both sides need to quit?

 

[durangodawood]

Is that any like Biden being cashed out by donors after his debate performance? (just curious)

No its really not. No parallel here to Bidens debate disaster that I can see.

 

[durangodawood]

...Can't we just agree it is bad when both sides do it, even though it likely has not affected any shootings, but both sides need to quit?

No, this is an important opportunity to make the "other side" seem bad. It should not be squandered.

 

[civilwarbuff]

"Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish the Second Amendment," Trump said to the crowd of supporters gathered in the Trask Coliseum at North Carolina University in Wilmington. "If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks.

"Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don't know."

You mean something like this?.......

We have all seen some politicians who could use a good tar and feathering from time to time.....Worked back then......

 

[SimplyMe]

No, this is an important opportunity to make the "other side" seem bad. It should not be squandered.

Unfortunately, I believe that is likely very true among some Trump supporters. Of course, should some person Trump makes comments about ends up shot, I'm sure at that point we'll here how it is just normal rhetoric, that it was taken out of context, and Trump obviously had nothing to do with that person wanting to shoot anyone.

Come to think of it, the better example is Cesar Altieri Sayoc; the person that sent bombs to prominent Democrats and CNN, where despite Trump's various comment about "enemies of the People" and some gun rhetoric; Republicans argued Trump was not at all responsible.

 

[civilwarbuff]

No its really not. No parallel here to Bidens debate disaster that I can see.

I was talking about the money (as were you with Trump) not his performance) and the withholding thereof......

 

[durangodawood]

I was talking about the money (as were you with Trump) not his performance) and the withholding thereof......

Ah. I was using "cash in", metaphorically, for accruing advantage of any sort. I should have been clear about that.

 

[Yarddog]

So that justifies and equalizes President Biden saying “it’s time to put [President] Trump in a bullseye”? I hardly think so.

This is just one more major foot-in-mouth blunder from the President. It's pretty much the absolute worst thing he could have possibly said in light of Trump very nearly having been assassinated less than a week later.

Nothing excuses Biden's words just as nothing excuses Trump's words. All politicians and people who claim to be Christians need to turn away from violent speech because there are crazy people out there listening.