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What happens between Trump and Melania is their business. I don’t condone it but it was 18 years and Trump is still married so I assume him and her have resolved any issues that arose.
Condone: to accept and allow (behavior that is considered morally wrong or offensive) to continue.
You certainly condone his blatant and compulsive lying.

BTW, I am not a Democrat nor Biden supporter..
 
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No, he doesn't. And no, he is mentally deficient. .

Of course, I remember Trump having issues with a ramp at West Point and having to use two hands to put a water bottle to his mouth.
Was that like Ole Biden being stuck in a dream on the Jimmy Kimmel stage recently in Los Angeles, and Obama had to grab him by the arm and lead him off the stage as if he was a resident at a convalescent home?

Joe Biden is a laughing stock on the world stage, sorta like the plague when he enters the room

His recent actions bumping heads with the pope last week was a big dis-honorable mention, as the world leaders watched gasping in disbelief, both recent incidents on the world stage in one week period?
 
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Condone: to accept and allow (behavior that is considered morally wrong or offensive) to continue.
You certainly condone his blatant and compulsive lying.

BTW, I am not a Democrat nor Biden supporter..
Biden lies too. All politicians lie. Everyone lies.

I am unable to stop him from lying. The idea that I am “allowing” it is naive.
 
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So guilty or not in a NY court, I prefer Trump.
I Agree 100%

Guilty in a biased New York Court, by a biased Manahattan Soros funded DA, with a Judge that supported Bidens campaign, that wouldn't allow many Trump witnesses to take the stand, with 55 biased pages of jury instructions, with a liberal activist daughter that worked for Biden and Harris in their campaigns
 
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Was that like Ole Biden being stuck in a dream on the Jimmy Kimmel stage recently in Los Angeles, and Obama had to grab him by the arm and lead him off the stage as if he was a resident at a convalescent home?

Joe Biden is a laughing stock on the world stage, sorta like the plague when he enters the room

His recent actions bumping heads with the pope last week was a big dis-honorable mention, as the world leaders watched gasping in disbelief, both recent incidents on the world stage in one week period?
No, he was not stuck in a dream and Kimmel denied that happened as the right portrayed it. He said Biden was listening to an audience member in the front row and paused for that. Obama didn't have to grab his arm.

Media like FOX are playing fast with the truth and are purposely presenting things to hurt the other side.

As to the Pope, he and Biden know each other. They have met before and have exchanged messages. Biden talked to the Pope when his son was diagnosed with cancer, and other times related to the government. This is on the same day as the 'head butt' the right is having a hissy fir about:

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He didn't smile like that with Trump.
 
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I Agree 100%

Guilty in a biased New York Court, by a biased Manahattan Soros funded DA, with a Judge that supported Bidens campaign, that wouldn't allow many Trump witnesses to take the stand, with 55 biased pages of jury instructions, with a liberal activist daughter that worked for Biden and Harris in their campaigns
No, DA Bragg was not funded by Soros. Soros' son donated to DA Bragg's campaign but that is all.

Soros must be the bogeyman that haunts some folks on the right.
 
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They should not have to be pulled out of school. Such issues should be handled independent of the classroom...
Agreed. Hence why schools should not push trans stuff onto kids. But, that is for another thread. But, Biden is better than Trump. I just miss the old-school politicians who were not as woke on the left, or as fascist on the right.
 
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I have never had to wash my clothes twice. I imagine if I got something muddy enough, I may have to, but then probably the item will be wrecked.
This sounds similar to Trump's comments about the shower and having to flush many times. ;)
I've had to wash clothes twice for the following reasons:
1. Too much soap.
2. Too little water (operator error).
3. Stain on clothes, usually a type of grease.

The question is likely whether you have to wash clothes twice in a front load washer. Having never used one, can't say. I do know they can stink - literally. Less water translates to issues such as foul smelling gunk in the pipes connecting to the tub.

Have run into problems with water reducers on shower heads. That's a very real issue. Have also run into problems with the toilets now mandated by law in the US. The problem is insufficient flow. For whatever reason, have also had difficulty adjusting replacement flaps, which makes no sense at all: the same type of flap is used on old and new commodes. The only reduced capacity toilet I've seen that worked properly was a pressure assisted toilet. They are more expensive and I've never had to repair one, so I don't know about the expense of parts or difficulty.

So here's a problem: I can't tell if pressure reducers translate into more water usage. I suspect it ends up saving nothing due to longer shower times. I do know that multiple flushes are an issue with modern toilets other than pressure assisted. Maximum tank capacity of new commodes in the US are 1.6 gallons / 6 liters while tanks between 1982 and 1993 could use no more than 3.5 gallons / 13.25 liters (yes, I looked it up). Tanks older than 1982 held 5 to 7 gallons (18.9 to 26.5 liters). I've never encountered a 7 gallon tank, so let's say 5 gallons / 18.9 liters was the norm. Two flushes with a 3.5 gallon toilet used more water than one flush of a 5 gallon toilet. Four flushes with a 1.6 gallon tank exceeds 1 flush of a 5 gallon toilet. Yes, I've seen it, and good luck with four. Blame it on old plumbing or whatever, but it does happen.
 
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I've had to wash clothes twice for the following reasons:
1. Too much soap.
2. Too little water (operator error).
3. Stain on clothes, usually a type of grease.

The question is likely whether you have to wash clothes twice in a front load washer. Having never used one, can't say. I do know they can stink - literally. Less water translates to issues such as foul smelling gunk in the pipes connecting to the tub.

Have run into problems with water reducers on shower heads. That's a very real issue. Have also run into problems with the toilets now mandated by law in the US. The problem is insufficient flow. For whatever reason, have also had difficulty adjusting replacement flaps, which makes no sense at all: the same type of flap is used on old and new commodes. The only reduced capacity toilet I've seen that worked properly was a pressure assisted toilet. They are more expensive and I've never had to repair one, so I don't know about the expense of parts or difficulty.

So here's a problem: I can't tell if pressure reducers translate into more water usage. I suspect it ends up saving nothing due to longer shower times. I do know that multiple flushes are an issue with modern toilets other than pressure assisted. Maximum tank capacity of new commodes in the US are 1.6 gallons / 6 liters while tanks between 1982 and 1993 could use no more than 3.5 gallons / 13.25 liters (yes, I looked it up). Tanks older than 1982 held 5 to 7 gallons (18.9 to 26.5 liters). I've never encountered a 7 gallon tank, so let's say 5 gallons / 18.9 liters was the norm. Two flushes with a 3.5 gallon toilet used more water than one flush of a 5 gallon toilet. Four flushes with a 1.6 gallon tank exceeds 1 flush of a 5 gallon toilet. Yes, I've seen it, and good luck with four. Blame it on old plumbing or whatever, but it does happen.
The only time I had a water reducer on a shower head is when I purposely bought one. Otherwise no problems with the shower.

Nor have I had problems with the toilet. Is it a significant issue in America? Nope.
 
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People worry that the Supreme Court will ban contraception and that the republicans will fight to ban it, only to be told by those on the right, "no, we aren't doing that."
Your post is proof that Republicans are likely to go after contraception rights.

1. The US Supreme Court can only strike down or uphold laws. At the most, the USSC could rule it's a matter left up to the States. Griswold vs Connecticut is an example of the USSC striking down a law, in this case Connecticut bans on contraception, It's possible that the USSC could at some point rule that it's an issue covered by the 10th and state that it's a question left up to the states, but the USSC cannot ban contraceptives.

2. GOP banning contraceptives seems to the be bugaboo du jour, which is interesting, as opposition seems to be a religious issue. Protestants don't appear to have an issue with it while Roman Catholics do. Roman Catholics seem evenly divided between DNC and GOP. And yet the accusation is made of the GOP. Interesting.
 
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Nor have I had problems with the toilet. Is it a significant issue in America? Nope.
That you don't have a problem with it is not an indication that the problem doesn't exist. Nor does politics make what's an engineering problem go away. The problem exists, and I'm not the only one who's encountered it. The existence of pressure assisted toilets shows that yes, it is an issue, otherwise there wouldn't be a market for them.
 
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1. The US Supreme Court can only strike down or uphold laws. At the most, the USSC could rule it's a matter left up to the States. Griswold vs Connecticut is an example of the USSC striking down a law, in this case Connecticut bans on contraception, It's possible that the USSC could at some point rule that it's an issue covered by the 10th and state that it's a question left up to the states, but the USSC cannot ban contraceptives.

2. GOP banning contraceptives seems to the be bugaboo du jour, which is interesting, as opposition seems to be a religious issue. Protestants don't appear to have an issue with it while Roman Catholics do. Roman Catholics seem evenly divided between DNC and GOP. And yet the accusation is made of the GOP. Interesting.
I don't agree actually. If it is presented as a form of abortion, they could ban it. When I was a teen and in college at first, contraception was only for married couple and illegal otherwise (other than condoms) and that had only been for a few years.
 
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I just got off the phone with my sister. She firmly, vigorously believes that Trump is the best president ever, can fix "everything", if anything bad happened January 6th it was Nancy Pelosi's fault and anyone convicted should certainly be pardoned, on and on. And I am the one who is brain washed because I do not buy it.

Anyone else?
I consider Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, and George Washington the best presidents ever.
I voted for Donald Trump in both elections, but he lost some of my support when he showed a lack of good sportsmanship about the election loss. Still, I'd rather have Donald Trump in office than Joe Biden.
Joe Biden tried to mandate the alleged COVID vaccine all over the country. I probably could've lost my job if that went through. I didn't take any of the "vaccines" because of the health risks. A friend of mine developed a blood clotting disorder after getting "vaccinated". I'm not sure if that caused it, but now he has to spend the rest of his life on blood thinners. And no, it was not the J&J.
So many things I stand against, Joe Biden seems to stand for.
 
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But it does. You accept it for your leader in chief. In fact so much of his bad behavior (compulsive lies, condoning violence, intimidation, threats, bullying, foul language etc) has been normalized that it has been insidiously eroding the moral fabric of our society. And you want more.
Like Biden claiming he showered with his daughter? Here's a link:


This isn't like an election between Augustine of Hippo and Caligula. This is like choosing between Tiberius and Claudius, and we don't need to pretend one is Augustine of Hippo in disguise.
 
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I don't agree actually. If it is presented as a form of abortion, they could ban it. When I was a teen and in college at first, contraception was only for married couple and illegal otherwise (other than condoms) and that had only been for a few years.
It might come as a surprise, but the US Supreme Court hasn't banned abortion. What it's done is ruled it's an issue left to the states. One state can pass a law for abortion and another against it. Thus if the US Supreme Court ruled preventing potential life was abortion, it would still be an issue left to the states.
 
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It might come as a surprise, but the US Supreme Court hasn't banned abortion. What it's done is ruled it's an issue left to the states. One state can pass a law for abortion and another against it. Thus if the US Supreme Court ruled preventing potential life was abortion, it would still be an issue left to the states.
It effectively did it in that if a state has a law against it or failed to back Roe up in the state, it is a ban. Quite a few Republicans are wanting a national ban. But my point here is that I have been told "oh, Republicans won't mess with contraception" and yet I see Republicans against it.
 
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I consider Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, and George Washington the best presidents ever.
I voted for Donald Trump in both elections, but he lost some of my support when he showed a lack of good sportsmanship about the election loss. Still, I'd rather have Donald Trump in office than Joe Biden.
Joe Biden tried to mandate the alleged COVID vaccine all over the country. I probably could've lost my job if that went through. I didn't take any of the "vaccines" because of the health risks. A friend of mine developed a blood clotting disorder after getting "vaccinated". I'm not sure if that caused it, but now he has to spend the rest of his life on blood thinners. And no, it was not the J&J.
So many things I stand against, Joe Biden seems to stand for.
Fair is fair: I wouldn't have been surprised if Trump hadn't also ordered Federal workers take the vaccine. Nor would I have been surprised if the Democrats had decried him doing so.
 
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It effectively did it in that if a state has a law against it or failed to back Roe up in the state, it is a ban. Quite a few Republicans are wanting a national ban. But my point here is that I have been told "oh, Republicans won't mess with contraception" and yet I see Republicans against it.
A curious thing: If it effectively enacted a ban if a state had a law against it, it also effectively upheld the practice if a state had a law allowing it. Yet you have characterized it as a ban, not upholding it.
 
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Some republicans are against it, some aren’t. Clarence Thomas already said he wants to ban it.

Can we at least admit now that the claim of conservatism/Republicans of being in favor of "small government" was always a farce, or at least is currently no longer true?

-CryptoLutheran
 
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