Johnson on Biden’s Mental Decline: ‘I Will Submit to a Polygraph’ if Anyone Doubts My Interactions

[BPPLEE]

You didn't know that there was a time when it was common to find an Indian (from India) working in a seven-eleven? I saw it many times. It's not a cut down to Indians.

If the same was said about minorities and garbage men I doubt you would call it stereotyping.

 

[childeye 2]

If the same was said about minorities and garbage men I doubt you would call it stereotyping.

That doesn't even make sense. White men can't jump is a stereotype. Mexicans own food trucks, that's a stereotype. The full quote reads: "I've had a great relationship. In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking.” Biden continued to say the “30% of the CEOs in Silicon Valley are Indian-American”.

 

[MrMoe]

Please read these underlined words below.
"We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides."

I hope you can now see that your assertion, that what Trump said is true, is based on a misrepresentation of what he actually said. Bigotry and hatred come from negative prejudice, which are synonymous with beliefs.

Which the counter protesters demonstrated with their actions.

Bigotry:
The fact of having and expressing strong, unreasonable beliefs and disliking other people who have different beliefs or a different way of life.

bigotry

1. the fact of having and expressing strong, unreasonable beliefs and disliking…

dictionary.cambridge.org

Hatred:
An extremely strong feeling of dislike:

hatred

1. an extremely strong feeling of dislike: 2. an extremely strong feeling of…

dictionary.cambridge.org

The counter protesters demonstrated this through their actions by verbally and physically attacking not just nazis and white supremacists but other non nazi and white supremacists in the crowd.

Trump is clearly saying both sides are equally responsible for the hatred, bigotry, and "EGREGIOUS" violence. So, you're mistaken, he is not talking solely about actions as you claim.

Trump never said they were equally responsible, just that both sides demonstrated hatred, bigotry, and violence that day.

Let's be honest, you do not know the side that was protesting the hatred and bigotry started the physical fights. We all know there was violence between two sides at the unite the right rally, but that doesn't necessarily mean there's equal blame. Expressing your disgust or chanting shame at the hatred and bigotry of the nazis and white nationalists doesn't make you them. And finally, the lawsuit against the unite the right rally found the organizers liable for the violence that occurred there. The blame was adjudicated in a court of law.

Moreover, the clashes that happened earlier in the day at the site of the rally were mostly pushing shoving that escalated to pepper spray throwing stuff etc... The governor declared a state of emergency that morning and the unite the right rally was declared an unlawful assembly at around 11:30 when police made everyone leave. I think around a dozen people were treated for cuts and bruises at local hospitals. It was later in the day when the "egregious" violence took place.

Trump doesn't know who started it,

I don't recall Trump ever claiming he knew who started it.

I mean the violence at the rally site that morning. Once the pushing and shoving starts, it's hard to tell an instigator from someone defending themselves. However, we do know for certain that AFTERWARDS and AWAY from the rally site, the ideology of bigotry and hatred which Trump falsely claimed was on all sides, drove a car into a crowd of people who had previously been protesting that hatred and bigotry Trump claimed was on many sides.

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides."

So far you haven't debunked his statement. Trump was right, it was on many sides. He never said it was equal.

Everyone knew about the incident. It was captured on video.

That's a huge assumption.

It happened after the clashes between white nationalist factions and the counter-protesters earlier that day. Trump made his remarks more than two hours after the incident.

That's way too early to confirm any hard facts about the incident.

Trump's remarks blamed both sides for the egregious bigotry and hatred and violence.

And he was right.

Exactly, Biden was responding to a reporter asking a loaded question. He therefore denies he misquoted Trump, which is verified in the transcript below.

He didn't deny it, he confirmed it by say "He called all those folks who walked out of that- they were neo-nazis shouting hate, their veins bulging."

Continuing the lie that Trump called neo-nazis very fine people.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/08/joe-biden-trump-white-supremacy-1453521

Reporter: “Mr. President, are you putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?”

Trump: “I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs — and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.

“But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left — you just called them the left — that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.

Reporter: (Inaudible) “… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the — “

Trump: “Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides — I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say.”

Reporter: “The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest — “

Trump: “Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves — and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”

I don't know what you think this conversation changes. Biden still falsely claims Trump called nazis "very fine people".

“No he did not, he walked out and he said — let’s get this straight — he said there were very fine people in both groups,”

 

[MrMoe]

I didn't say it was. I said this is projection in scripture. An example of cynicism at work was provided in the post.

It isn't projection either. Projection has a very precise definition that isn't demonstrated in that verse.

Example of projecting cynicism:
18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.

19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

The way the carnal mind works is in vain comparisons with others that either makes them (the one's with the carnal mind) feel good about themselves or bad about themselves. So, because these people found fault with others whether they were eating and drinking or not eating and drinking, then they are projecting their canal vanity onto others.

How is them thinking John The Baptist fasting meant he was demon possessed show projection? Wouldn't that mean they thought they were also demon possessed themselves since they also were fasting?

It's a defense mechanism because it makes them feel better about themselves when they find fault with others. Also, a symptom of narcissism.

Matthew 12:34
O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
Titus 1:15
Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

Those verses don't show projection. They are about the heart, mind and conscious. Purely inward focused.

I didn't say you were projecting for Trump. I said: It means you're projecting a negative prejudice through which you slander Biden, as a defense mechanism.

So I have a negative prejudice against myself that I'm projecting onto Biden?

Since Trump is a known liar who displays a racist, narcissistic, carnal mindset, you project that you want to make Biden look the same so that you can rationalize liking Trump.

What does trump have to do with this if I'm not projecting for him?

 

[MrMoe]

There's a difference between lies and gaffes and misspeaking.

How can you tell the difference between which are lies, which are gaffes and which are misspeaking?


Could you point out which one are the lies in that list.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say you're going to say none of them are lies and they are just gaffes and misspeaking.

At one time Biden was against forced bussing. He wasn't a segregationist, but he worked with some who were for segregation whom he had befriended. If I recall correctly, Biden's explanation of why he was against forced bussing is because he did not believe in the principle that you could eliminate race discrimination through legislation. He worked with segregationists to craft legislation with a more gradual approach to integration, rather than all or nothing.

This is the full quote: "Unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point."

In the 1970s, then-U.S. Sen. Joe Biden was a vocal opponent of busing as a means for desegregating public schools. That record haunted him in his bid to secure the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination.

In early March 2020, readers asked Snopes to verify a quote in 1977 in which Biden, then a U.S. senator representing Delaware, allegedly expressed fear that desegregation, if not done in an "orderly" way, could result in his children growing up in "a racial jungle with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point."

The full context doesn't change the substance of the quote. Define what Biden meant by "racial jungle".

That's stereotyping, not racism. The full quote reads: "I've had a great relationship. In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking.” Biden continued to say the “30% of the CEOs in Silicon Valley are Indian-American”.

According to left wingers, it is racist.

In January of this year parody site The Babylon Bee posted this joke article of Trump giving Vivek Ramaswamy a job at the white house 7-Eleven, with a photoshopped photo of Vivek standing in front of a 7-Eleven.

Trump Promises Vivek An Administration Position Running The White House 7-Eleven

PALM BEACH, FL — Following former President Donald Trump's landslide victory in the Iowa Primary and immediate concession by GOP candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, Trump offered an olive branch by promising the billionaire entrepreneur a cabinet position running the White House 7-Eleven convenience store.

babylonbee.com

There was backlash from the left for this.

Conservative parody website's "racist" Vivek Ramaswamy joke sparks backlash

The Babylon Bee posted an edited picture of Vivek Ramaswamy in a 7-Eleven uniform, which people online found "racist."

www.newsweek.com

Joe Biden is just feeding into the stereotype. He even said "I'm not joking".

It's wrong to take snippets from what was actually said and insinuate something negative from it. Heres what Biden actually said, and in context.

Biden said of his fellow Democratic candidate, Obama, "I mean, you got the first sort of mainstream African-American." An unidentified reporter responded, "Yeah." Biden continued, "... who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."

The context shows Biden is referring to Obama as the first "sort of" mainstream candidate for President who is African American. And the descriptive terms of articulate, bright, clean and nice looking, would typically refer to the Persona that Obama exuded and his appearance.

He never said the word president. He said "first sort of mainstream African-American." This ignores that there were many mainstream African-American before Obama, including MLK and several Hollywood actors.

So, if you think Biden is implying that African Americans are usually inarticulate, stupid, dirty, and ugly, then you're deceived. If you tell other people this is proof he is racist, you're spreading misinformation.

He specifically said "mainstream" African-American not just African-American. He wasn't talking about just any African-American.


His comment directly implies all the previous mainstream African Americans were not articulate, bright or clean.

Let me say something here about racism.

(1) The term racism implies a discrimination against someone, according to their race/stock/ethnicity. It qualifies as a form of negative prejudice. Hence race theory is based in believing that one's genetic makeup determines who is the greater person. It therefore is also a form of carnal vanity.

It is also defined as "the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another."

(2) Skin color white or black etc... is not a qualifier for a race because it does not denote any race of people or ethnicity.

Then what is a qualifier for race? Because it's not genetics.

However, discriminating against someone according to their skin color, does qualify as a negative prejudice, just like racism does.

Let me see if I have this right. So if a person gets fired from their job because of their skin color, you would consider that negative prejudice but not racism?

(3) There is a culture of African Americans that came out of slavery to white slave owners, which as a unique culture identify as Black. It does not mean to imply skin color but rather a culture and a mindset. This causes semantical confusion since when they say White, it is also a mindset meaning it does not know what it means to be Black (come out of slavery).

There are are many African Americans living in America that didn't come out of slavery. So they're not black?

So, when Biden says. "If you're having a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, you ain't Black", it's not a negative prejudice. If you believe this is negative prejudice against black skin, you're mistaken.

It's a stereotype that all black people think alike. I would consider that a negative stereotype.

Even perceived positive stereotypes can be considered racist. Imagine if Biden had said to an Asian host: "If you're not doing well in school then you ain't Asian." This would fall under "the model minority myth".

The model minority myth hides the racist and sexist violence experienced by Asian women

The invisibility of anti-Asian racism is inextricably connected to the model minority myth, which serves to disguise the violence experienced by Asian American and Asian Canadian women.

theconversation.com

You can't trust a blind man to tell you who sees and doesn't see. The sick mind can diagnose the healthy mind as the sick mind. People project their own insecurities onto others.

Blindness is a physical disability and is not comparable to something like narcissism.


Everything the man said is observable to others. So it's not just in his mind.

 

[childeye 2]

Which the counter protesters demonstrated with their actions.

Bigotry:
The fact of having and expressing strong, unreasonable beliefs and disliking other people who have different beliefs or a different way of life.

bigotry

1. the fact of having and expressing strong, unreasonable beliefs and disliking…

dictionary.cambridge.org

Hatred:
An extremely strong feeling of dislike:

hatred

1. an extremely strong feeling of dislike: 2. an extremely strong feeling of…

dictionary.cambridge.org

The counter protesters demonstrated this through their actions by verbally and physically attacking not just nazis and white supremacists but other non nazi and white supremacists in the crowd.

You can't be reasonable when you don't reason on facts. Any reasoning that is based on falsehood ends in a contradiction.

MrMoe said:
What Trump is saying is true. You are conflating beliefs with actions. While Trump is talking solely about actions that day.

childeye 2 said:
Please read these underlined words below.
"We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides."
I hope you can now see that your assertion, that what Trump said is true, is based on a misrepresentation of what he actually said. Bigotry and hatred come from negative prejudice, which are synonymous with beliefs.

You and Trump will always end up claiming two contradictory positions when you try to draw a moral equivalence between the hatred in the heart of the KKK, and the hatred against the hatred in the hearts of the KKK.

 

[childeye 2]

It isn't projection either. Projection has a very precise definition that isn't demonstrated in that verse.

childeye 2 said:
I didn't say it was. I said this is projection in scripture. An example of cynicism at work was provided in the post.

Example of projecting cynicism:
18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.

19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

How is them thinking John The Baptist fasting meant he was demon possessed show projection?

Because John didn't have a demon. They may have projected onto him their own skepticism of his intent through negative prejudice, but more likely, through their own guilt because they never fast.

By the way, the scripture doesn't exactly say John was fasting. It just says he came neither eating or drinking.

Wouldn't that mean they thought they were also demon possessed themselves since they also were fasting?

No. The pure of heart would not have found anything wrong with John the Baptist whether he came eating and drinking or whether he did not come eating and drinking. The pure of heart don't find fault in people.

15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

Those verses don't show projection. They are about the heart, mind and conscious. Purely inward focused.

They are talking about the condition of the heart and what comes out of the mouth reveals the heart. They're saying we all project what is in our heart.

So I have a negative prejudice against myself that I'm projecting onto Biden?

I use the term cynicism when distrust of others is being projected. And I use grace or faith when trust is being projected. Those are negative and positive prejudices. People that have been hurt by others such as feeling betrayed or abandoned will be more likely to project cynicism.

An example of projection:
So, let's say, a man says, "I don't deserve my wife"; If I think he means he could have done better, then my mind is projecting that he wishes he never married her. But if I think he means she is better than him, then my mind is projecting that he is glad he married her. That's projection. Notice that whichever way I believe will manifest a different spirit. Whichever image of the man I project onto him, will say more about me than it does about him.

What does trump have to do with this if I'm not projecting for him?

I'm not sure what projecting FOR him means. The only way that makes sense is that you like Trump, and you project that you are FOR Trump.

 

[MrMoe]

You can't be reasonable when you don't reason on facts. Any reasoning that is based on falsehood ends in a contradiction.

MrMoe said:
What Trump is saying is true. You are conflating beliefs with actions. While Trump is talking solely about actions that day.

childeye 2 said:
Please read these underlined words below.
"We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides."
I hope you can now see that your assertion, that what Trump said is true, is based on a misrepresentation of what he actually said. Bigotry and hatred come from negative prejudice, which are synonymous with beliefs.

And beliefs can be displayed through actions. The counter protesters yelling insults/threats, assaulting people and starting fights shows not just to the neo-nazis but to those peacefully protesting the taking down of the statue were demonstrating bigotry and hatred.

You and Trump will always end up claiming two contradictory positions when you try to draw a moral equivalence between the hatred in the heart of the KKK, and the hatred against the hatred in the hearts of the KKK.

Trump was talking about their actions that day, not their ideology.


Trump clearly said "I'm not putting anyone on a moral plane. what I'm saying is this you had a group on one side and you had a group on the other and they came at each other with clubs and it was vicious and it was horrible and it was a horrible thing to watch"

 

[MrMoe]

childeye 2 said:
I didn't say it was. I said this is projection in scripture. An example of cynicism at work was provided in the post.

Example of projecting cynicism:
18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.

19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

Why did you repost this? What are you trying to tell me?

Because John didn't have a demon.

They believed he did.

They either projected onto him their own skepticism of his intent through negative prejudice or through their own guilt because they never fast.

They did fast. Matthew 9:14

By the way, the scripture doesn't say John was fasting. It just says he came neither eating or drinking.

Also known as fasting.

Matthew 9:14 Then came to him the disciples of John, saying, Why do we and the Pharisees fast oft, but thy disciples fast not?

No. The pure of heart would not have found anything wrong with John the Baptist whether came eating and drinking or whether he did not come eating and drinking. The pure of heart don't find fault in people.

15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

Umm. I hate to break it to you but Jesus, who was as pure of heart as is possible, found fault in many people.

Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.


John 2:14 And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: 15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables; 16 And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.


Matthew 23:27 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!



Was Jesus projecting?

They are talking about the condition of the heart and what comes out of the mouth reveals the heart. We all project what is in our heart.

You are displaying a severe misunderstanding of what projection is. And not everyone projects.

I use the term cynicism when distrust of others is being projected. And I use grace or faith when trust is being projected. Those are negative and positive prejudices. People that have been hurt by others such as feeling betrayed or abandoned will be more likely to project cynicism.

An example of projection:
So, let's say, a man says, "I don't deserve my wife"; If I think he means he could have done better, then my mind is projecting that he wishes he never married her. But if I think he means she is better than him, then my mind is projecting that he is glad he married her. That's projection. Notice that whichever way I believe will manifest a different spirit. Whichever image of the man I project onto him, will say more about me than it does about him.

No that's called perception. Not the same as projection.

I'm not sure what projecting FOR him means.

Then you should ask JustOneWay. They accused me of "projecting for Trump". They should know what it means.

Johnson on Biden’s Mental Decline: ‘I Will Submit to a Polygraph’ if Anyone Doubts My Interactions

Biden said Trump assigned a moral equivalence between both sides. How is that a Lie? Biden's own words: “assigned a moral equivalence between those spreading hate and those with the courage to stand against it,” Who were those spreading hate that day? The neo-nazis and white supremacist...

www.christianforums.com

The only way that makes sense is that you like Trump, and you project that you are FOR Trump.

That doesn't make sense either.

 

[FreeinChrist]

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