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Can Christians Still Support Trump after the Guilty Verdict?

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Oompa Loompa

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Shame on the GOP and the whole political system for not offering a multitude of viable options. The system is broken. And will likely take a generation or more to fix.
Could the same be said about the DNC?
 
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I prefer voting in the local elections, though I did vote in a presidential election for the first time in 2020 for Joe. For instance, I vote for Republican police officers typically (to reduce crime), and moderate judges. For environmental stuff, I tend to vote more liberal. After the far left stuff being shoved down everyone's throats since 2021 or so, I will vote one last time in 2024 (begrudgingly for Joe, unless the Republicans put up a new candidate, or the democrats put up a moderate), and then give up on voting for future elections. Who knows how far-left (woke) or how far-right the politicians would be in 2028.

As a Christian, I am tempted to write in Jesus of Nazareth on my ballot, in frustration with the two-party system we have got.
Why not vote for Kennedy?
 
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Ok. I see Biden walking away hand in hand with his wife and this is a problem? I'm sure there's more context that makes this egregious cause this seems....like nothing.

Also, still feel the information I shared is helpful
 
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Joe Biden was elected to be president of our United States of America. Not a religious figure. And btw, the "LGBT nonsense" of what you speak are people, not nonsense. Maybe they are closer to God now? How could you possibly know? Have you interacted with any LGBT + folks lately? Despite your lack of acceptance, God is thrilled to find lost sheep. Your sins are not somehow better than theirs anyhow. It's why I urge you to live in God's word, which is found in the bible.
Joe Biden is encouraging their sin, not leading them away from it. He’s not leading them to God at all.
That is incorrect. HE does NOT promote sin. People make their OWN choice. I have ONLY heard him say that abortion should be an option...i've never heard him say you "should" get an abortion.
He encourages transgenderism.
Why don't you address Trump's obvious lack of knowledge and faith and continue to convince yourself he's the more godly man?
Why don’t you address that enabling sin is implicitly approving it?
Neither of those things are in ANY way EXPLICITLY addressed in the Bible as some kind of grand Christian ideal or some intrinsic part of our faith.
Trump is a president, and his job is to create law and order in this country.
 
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Prove it.

Biden actively pulls people away from God. Trump at the very least creates a sense of law and order, which is the job of a president, not a pastor.
Why the contradiction? You want Biden to be a pastor but Trump gets a pass?

You are right though, the President ‘s job description does not include pastor. Let’s leave religion out of it.
 
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Ok. I see Biden walking away hand in hand with his wife and this is a problem? I'm sure there's more context that makes this egregious cause this seems....like nothing.

Also, still feel the information I shared is helpful
He didn’t greet the veterans that he was there to greet
 
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Why the contradiction? You want Biden to be a pastor but Trump gets a pass?
No, I want Biden to not lead people into sin by enabling extremely destructive behaviors.
You are right though, the President ‘s job description does not include pastor. Let’s leave religion out of it.
Trump wanting to ban puberty blockers and transitioning surgeries has nothing to do with religion.
 
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No, I want Biden to not lead people into sin by enabling extremely destructive behaviors.

Trump wanting to ban puberty blockers and transitioning surgeries has nothing to do with religion.
The government should tread very lightly in the realm of medical decision making. I disagree with candidates who make promises to legislate what needs to be between medical providers, medical ethics boards, and patients.
 
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The government should tread very lightly in the realm of medical decision making. I disagree with candidates who make promises to legislate what needs to be between medical providers, medical ethics boards, and patients.
There is nothing ethical about puberty blockers or gender transitioning surgeries. It is beyond ridiculous that this is even up for debate. It is child abuse to give these to children, plain and simple.
 
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Joe Biden was elected to be president of our United States of America. Not a religious figure. And btw, the "LGBT nonsense" of what you speak are people, not nonsense. Maybe they are closer to God now? How could you possibly know? Have you interacted with any LGBT + folks lately? Despite your lack of acceptance, God is thrilled to find lost sheep. Your sins are not somehow better than theirs anyhow. It's why I urge you to live in God's word, which is found in the bible.
‭Romans 1:32 NIV‬
[32] Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
 
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That is incorrect. HE does NOT promote sin. People make their OWN choice. I have ONLY heard him say that abortion should be an option...i've never heard him say you "should" get an abortion.



Why don't you address Trump's obvious lack of knowledge and faith and continue to convince yourself he's the more godly man?
Neither of those things are in ANY way EXPLICITLY addressed in the Bible as some kind of grand Christian ideal or some intrinsic part of our faith.
Sure, Biden doesn't encourage sin. He merely approves of people practicing sin.

‭Romans 1:32 NIV‬
[32] Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
 
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There is nothing ethical about puberty blockers or gender transitioning surgeries. It is beyond ridiculous that this is even up for debate. It is child abuse to give these to children, plain and simple.
The correct standard of care needs to be determined by medical professionals. Legislators, unless also medically licensed in the specific field that the legislation pertains to, are not qualified to make these decisions.
 
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How then do you explain why his "stuttering" was not an issue until about 3 years ago? My point is that if you are correct, his pattern of long pauses and incoherent speech would have been noticed decades ago. So why now all of a sudden?
 
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The correct standard of care needs to be determined by medical professionals. Legislators, unless also medically licensed in the specific field that the legislation pertains to, are not qualified to make these decisions.
Nope, it’s been banned in several other countries, and it should be banned in the US.
 
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How then do you explain why his "stuttering" was not an issue until about 3 years ago? My point is that if you are correct, his pattern of long pauses and incoherent speech would have been noticed decades ago. So why now all of a sudden?
So listen. I'm not saying age is not affecting him. But I don't think your characterization of his speech habits is correct anyways.


I think you'd find the frequency of his speech quality dropped in proportion to how much they began taking about it in right wing media.
 
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‭Romans 1:32 NIV‬
[32] Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

Showing people compassion and respect is not approval friend. We don't need sin police. We worry about our own sins and following His word. Liars are sinners. Fornicators are sinners. That Trump feller is proficient at both. So are many folks on these forums. If you break one law you are just as guilty as those whom you judge. And if you judge pagans you kinda condemn yourself.
 
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Answer this one question, why would a billionaire who could live any life style he wishes in his senior years...
That's an incredibly naive question. Whoever sits behind the Resolute Desk has more power at his fingertips (literally) than any man who has ever lived. And you wonder why someone like Trump would want that instead of playing a few rounds of golf now and then and sitting on his deck sipping a coke and seething at all his failures. Fulminating at a world that has described him as the worst president ever.

The guy is psychologically unable to do the latter and psychologically unfit for the former.
 
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