Trump found guilty on all 34 counts

[ozso]

Shapiro wasn't in court. He's just another law school grad (probably, I assume he graduated). A couple of months ago I watched a video with a title like "I watched the Ben Shapiro video on XX so you didn't have to." I appreciated the bullet that YouTuber took for the rest of us.

Ah so no one who wasn't there can assess it.

 

[ozso]

They both look ridiculous.

But not nearly as ridiculous as:

 

[Bradskii]

Don't you ever get tired repeating of your "so you don't have anything" after something has been posted routine? I'm not going to fall for it no matter how many times you regurgitate it.

The thread has been checked. You've posted nothing. When you say that you have (apart from Dershowitz) you are not telling us the truth.

 

[FaithT]

But not nearly as ridiculous as:

Well the $400 gold, red white and blue Never Surrender High Top Sneaker comes close.

But not nearly as ridiculous as:

 

[ozso]

The thread has been checked. You've posted nothing. When you say that you have (apart from Dershowitz) you are not telling us the truth.

Except maybe that hour long apart from Dershowitz video I posted. Why do you keep playing a game that just makes you look bad? It's not a particularly brilliant strategy.

 

[ozso]

Well the $400 gold, red white and blue Never Surrender High Top Sneaker comes close.

Yeah but they get me lots of complements.

 

[FaithT]

Yeah but they get me lots of complements.

That was either a joke or a lie.

 

[MrMoe]

Actually, it's not my opinion. Everything I said is observable fact about the differences between positive and negative prejudice, and about carnal vanity. The last paragraph is a hypothetical scenario, but it is facts based.

Same with me. Everything I posted about Biden is observable facts taken from video or confirmed genuine quotes by Biden.

Those facts being that some people know more than others as a matter of circumstance and it's not anyone's fault this occurs.

That's true, but you don't know which person knew more in regards to Hilary or Biden. All you have is your own distant observations.

Yes, it applies to everyone.

Good. Remember that verse about projection whenever you see people talking about Trump.

I don't disagree that Hillary had knowledge gained from her experience as a first lady, senator, and secretary of state. If she believes she would be the best president, I would not call her a narcissist because, it's just her OPINION.

When did I call her a narcissist? And when did I say this was her opinion?

That's an opinion.

And so is yours.

I don't. I just know Biden had more experience as a senator and as a vice President.

And Hilary also had experience as a senator and was the first lady. So both of ours is just opinions.

I don't, and I never thought she didn't.

This just confirms that you don't know Biden knew more about the job than Hilary.

You need to rethink this. I said he would be stupid to run IF he thought the other candidate would make a better President. It's a provisional statement. The FACT IS he didn't run, because he felt he didn't have the passion to do the job. Since in the interview he thinks he would be the better President IF HE HAD THE PASSION, then obviously the provisional requirement that qualifies stupidity in my statement, doesn't exist.

How do you know he has "the passion" now?

That's a valid argument, but IF Joe believes he can do the job and IF he is the one best suited to defeat Trump, those would be valid reasons to not step down.

It doesn't matter if Biden believes he can do the job since it's obvious he has diminished mental capacity. Drunks also believe the are able to drive.

It could, and it probably would be seen that way by any cynic who projects cynicism. But if it were deflection, then it's even a quicker wit than if it wasn't. The point being that it's a contradiction for a cynic to both claim it's proof Biden is stupid and then claim it's a calculated deflection.

Even idiots can be devious.

Well, he talked about this in the video you posted. He felt he would be the best President but because Beau died, he felt he had lost his soul, and he did not have the passion to do what the job required. So, despite his expressed confidence in his experience and knowledge which you see as narcissism, he did not run.

He was grieving then, and he may now be using Beau's memory to pick himself up and do something meaningful in his last years, believing Beau would want that. So, when he mentions Beau, if he is thinking within himself, he's doing this for Beau, then I can see how he can come across as using Beau to garner sympathy for Joe's cause. Even so, that does not qualify as false humility.

I'm not talking about that video, which I have no doubt were his genuine feelings. The problem's is him constantly bringing up his son can be seen as gratuitous and inappropriate, Like when he called out Laken Riley's name, he brought up his son, which turned the focus back on him when the focus should have been solely on Laken Riley. His son also wasn't murdered by an illegal, so it's not the same type of pain.


He also brought up his son during a recent HBCU speech. Graduations should be about the future not the past. They should be hopeful, not about fear. But Biden's speech was mostly about the past and reminding the black students they are oppressed in America, even though they were graduating from an American college.

What would count as false humility to you regarding Trump?

I study semantics particular to psycholinguistics. Words are expressed sentiments and therefore they have power/energy.

Power/energy? I'm assuming you mean that figuratively.

Since a singular word can carry positive, neutral or negative connotations depending on how it is qualified; by using true dichotomies, I can conduct a subjective semantic analysis and thereby discern the underlying intentions, where they are coming from in their approach to the objective truth, and whether they are informed or misinformed.

Could you explain all that in layman's terms? Because all that is just sounds like a word salad designed to sound smart.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like you're saying you can discern someone's intentions by their words. Which is similar to people who claim they know when someone is lying based on body language, which is considered inaccurate and pseudoscience.

I understand he is carnal minded and can't help himself.

You didn't answer the question. Do you apply this same level of grace and understanding that you to Biden, to Trump? Yes or no?

And how do you know Biden is not also carnal minded and can't help himself?

Do you realize I have no idea what so called insults and racist comments you could be referring to? I'm just saying if you're going to say something bad about someone, you need to have proof; otherwise, it's just slander.

I already posted a video proof reply to you showing Biden's insults (post #296). You must have missed it. Here's the link:

Trump found guilty on all 34 counts

Trump's moral failings are his self-adoration and that he slanders all those who openly disagree with him. The blind leader of the blind. Right and Biden never brags about himself and never says anything bad about anyone.

www.christianforums.com

I find it hard to believe you've never stumble upon Biden's racist comments. Here is a video of Biden's infamous "You ain't black" comment.
The great thing about this video is it also shows Biden boasting like Trump how much black people support him.

Here are other videos you may like to watch on Biden's other racist comments and disturbing past on race. You don't have to watch them all.

There's a firehose of disinformation out there and people get tired of debunking lies. It should be expected that at some point people ignore it.

I'm sure Trump supporters feel the same way.

I was simply pointing out that a person can't justify slander, but they can justify standing up against slander. Are you asking me to show where Biden is standing up against the wickedness of slander?

No, I'm asking what wickedness you think has been justified regarding Biden?

As far as I remember, I've debunked everything you've called "convincing proof" of narcissism that was directed at me.

As far as I remember all you've done it accuse me of projection, several times. You haven't actually debunked anything.

I recall saying you should first prove he mocked Christianity before you move on to trying to prove he's done all the things God hates. All you showed me was one man's opinion that when Joe made the sign of the cross it was Joe's intention to make a mockery of the Catholic faith. That is slandering Joe.

That wasn't me, that was another member.

 

[Bradskii]

Except maybe that hour long apart from Dershowitz video I posted.

The only reference to that I have already mentioned. A few times. I have told you continuously that you have posted nothing except that and that had already been rejected.

 

[7thKeeper]

You just totally confirmed what I said.

... No he didn't. You haven't posted anything on details of what was wrong. The one thing posted regarding the selection is a blatant lie. Or are you arguing that the blatant lie is true?

 

[Hans Blaster]

Ah so no one who wasn't there can assess it.

Oh good grief. Ben Shaprio has not special expertise or experience to add. He's just another commentator with an annoying voice. Are we moving on from that liar Dershowitz?

 

[MrMoe]

Did you watch this video?
For the record, I ALMOST NEVER watch movies this long on CF but frankly, I think the argument is absolutely bunk

Yeah I watched it. What about the argument you think is bunk?

so I'm intrigued by how this guy will convince me that Biden is narcissistic when he's shown PLENTY of emotion and empathy towards others.

So has Trump. But let me guess, 'When Trump does it he's just pretending!' Or something like that will be the response.

Frankly, I'm sure it's a joke but....what the heck, let' see how "4 quotes" mean that a person is a "narcisssist". I won't be able to watch it til way later in the evening though.


Please, oh please list which traits you feel they share.
Here are a list of traits of a true narcissist:

• Being overly boastful, exaggerating one’s own achievements

Video of Biden boasting about having a higher I.Q. than a reporter and boasting about his academic record.

Here's Biden boasting about "Blafrican" American support.

• Pretending to be superior to others

"I think I would be the best president"- Joe Biden

• Lack of empathy for others

Joe Biden checking his watch during ceremony of fallen soldier.

• Looking down on others as inferior

Biden to "MAGA" Trump supports.

• Monopolising conversations

Never seen Trump or Biden do this.

• Impatient, angry, unhappy, depressed or has mood swings when criticized

​

Joe getting angry and impatient with autoworker. WARNING: Joe Biden uses uncensored swear word in video.

• Easily disappointed when expected importance is not given

Never seen this in Trump or Biden.

• Always craves for “the best” in everything

I don't think that's exclusive to narcissists to want the best in things.

• Has a very fragile self-esteem

This isn't exclusive to narcissists.

The problem with your description is that the situations are never comparable. Me sharing a single video with 23 quotes of Trump being a Narcissist, is not what makes Trump a narcissist. It is merely one in a series of examples.

23 quotes of Trump basically saying the same thing. Now that's desperation.

 

[ozso]

Oh good grief. Ben Shaprio has not special expertise or experience to add. He's just another commentator with an annoying voice. Are we moving on from that liar Dershowitz?

You're most likely going to say something like that about anyone who's not on your side. It's an easy out.

 

[MrMoe]

I'm trying to love you as I would want to be loved, and it's not easy to tell misinformed people that they are deceived.

What am I misinformed about?

No. After a white nationalist supporter drove his car into a crowd of anti-white nationalist protesters killing a young woman, Trump equated the white nationalist's movement with the anti-white nationalists by saying, "We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides".

The next day, he was asked to explain why he equivocated. So, after openly denouncing white supremacists and Nazi's, he then said there were violent people on both sides and fine people on both sides.

Good. Where and when did you come upon this information? Because it seems Joe Biden hasn't been informed of these facts.

Biden continues to claim that Trump called white supremacists "very fine people". So I can only think of two reasons. Either he is uninformed of these facts or what I think is more likely is that he's lying.

We are all projecting something. You are projecting your belief that Biden is a narcissist. I am projecting my belief that he has empathy for others. Mine is the positive prejudice.

But only one can be objectively true.

Factual proof. When Biden states in 2015, "I think I would be the best President" and you post that he said "I would be the best President", that's altering what he actually said. I can only surmise you are misinformed and subsequently spreading disinformation about Biden.

You didn't answer my question. You just repeated what you told me last time about that phrase.

What would be "factual proof" to you? A video? A quote?

The pure of heart project their purity onto others and the defiled mind projects their impurity onto others.

H.G. Tudor narcissist psychopath

That link doesn't prove he's projecting, only that he is a self proclaimed narcissist.

Ever heard of Frank Abagnale? He was a fraudster who worked with the FBI to catch other fraudsters.

Who better to spot a narcissist than another narcissist.

 

[ozso]

The only reference to that I have already mentioned. A few times. I have told you continuously that you have posted nothing except that and that had already been rejected.

Anything I post will be rejected. If I post 100 more hours of what you're complaining about not seeing, you'll either say it wasn't posted or "I/they/we reject it" while pestering people to exercise in an act of futility. And in the meantime you never contribute any evidence to the contrary.

 

[ozso]

That was either a joke or a lie.

Why not both?

 

[A2SG]

I've yet to see any evidence from anyone to corroborate their it's lie claim.

You want corroboration that the claim of the defense having no say in jury selection is a lie?

Done.

https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/Letter-re-jury-selection-4-8-24.pdf

This is a letter from Trump's attorney, Todd Blanche, regarding jury selection, including a juror questionnaire both parties contributed to. This clearly indicates that both parties had a say in jury selection (which is standard practice for voie dire), and that the assertion that the judge and the prosecution "hand-picked" the jury is false.

Lie proven.

-- A2SG, if you want a full trial transcript, it's freely available....

 

[MrMoe]

Crafting propaganda is not just about turning negatives into positives and positives into negatives. It's also about trying to make them look the same so that no one can tell the truth from a lie. So no, you cannot trust the sick mind to make a diagnosis. You cannot trust a blind man to tell you who it is that doesn't see. The sick mind finds fault where there is no fault.

So now it's propaganda? Just a while ago you was saying it was projection.

Titus 1:15
Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

You've quoted this verse several times now. The next verse is:


Titus 1:16
They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

Biden says he's a Catholic but is pro gay marriage and and pro abortion. Both things are apposed by the Catholic church.

Here is an example:
But whereunto shall I liken this generation? It is like unto children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows,

17 And saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned unto you, and ye have not lamented.

18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.

19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

How does this apply to Biden?

 

[ozso]

You want corroboration that the claim of the defense having no say in jury selection is a lie?

Done.

https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/Letter-re-jury-selection-4-8-24.pdf

This is a letter from Trump's attorney, Todd Blanche, regarding jury selection, including a juror questionnaire both parties contributed to. This clearly indicated that both parties had a say in jury selection (which is standard practice for voie dire), and that the assertion that the judge and the prosecution "hand-picked" the jury is false.

Lie proven.

-- A2SG, if you want a full trial transcript, it's freely available....

Find the needle in the haystack.

 

[A2SG]

Find the needle in the haystack.

The letter isn't that long. Seven pages. The rest is the questionnaire prepared by both parties that the jury had to fill out.

The defense had a say in voie dire, as is the case for every jury trial. Any claim that they didn't has been proven false.

Unless you have something else that backs up Dershowitz' claim?

-- A2SG, you don't even have to look at the transcript website, I did that for you....