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Trump found guilty on all 34 counts

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During the 2016 presidential race Joe Biden said: "I would have been the best president".



:whitecheck: Specific.

:whitecheck: Narcissistic.

:whitecheck: Untrue.
1.Confidence is not Clinical narcissism.
2.you got 23 more?
 
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“Convicted felon “ was the only goal of the left in this sham trial. This joke of a trial will be overturned, it is full of appealable errors.
Notwithstanding that you thought he was convicted for having sex, would you like to list all the 'appealable errors'?
 
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What an ironic choice one charged with sex with a porn star or one who showers with his daughter? Hmmm is that really a tough choice?
well, one is true and one has not been proven at all.
 
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Yes, I think that makes it clear he should not be president.
Why?
I don't think he will resort to antics like that unless he needs to distract the country from something he did, which may be sooner than later.

Trump is only out for himself and sees the president's office as the only way to protect himself from the consequences of his actions. He doesn't care that much about the country.
Most of his actions they're putting him on trial for are a result of him becoming president. He could have just stayed in his palace and towers and lived like a king while ruling his personal empire.
 
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The daughters diary disagrees with you. But yours was the expected response.
Once upon a time Trump needed a guilty verdict let he be improperly labeled.
Now he has one.

But I'm sure there's a sensible logical honest and fair reason why Biden does not receive the same grace.
 
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Notwithstanding that you thought he was convicted for having sex, would you like to list all the 'appealable errors'?
No, I'll just let you be surprised.


BTW if you had been listening to respected ( unbiased ) legal analysis you wouldn't have to ask me to do your homework for you.

No he really wasn't convicted for having sex, just for being Trump
 
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Unlucky for Trump that that wasn't your decision to make. A convicted liar and a porn star are the main witnesses for the prosecution and Trump's lawyers still couldn't swing a single juror.
Maybe for the same reason many on this forum cannot be persuaded!

All consuming hatred for Trump is a powerful weapon. But we will see how this shakes out in the end!
 
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What an ironic choice one charged with sex with a porn star or one who showers with his daughter? Hmmm is that really a tough choice?
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All consuming hatred for Trump is a powerful weapon. But we will see how this shakes out in the end!
So the jury was swayed by prejudice? Yet they were selected in the usual way with defence lawyers agreeing to the final twelve chosen after a long and careful process.

Trump followers do not accept the rule of the courts generally and this trial in particular - the most scrutinised legal process of the year so far. Trump's repetitious claims that it is a plot show his desperation. Evidence for this plot? He was brought to trial.
MAGA. Make America Great Again!

Is there a problem with that?

I think we could use some of that actually.
What exactly does this slogan mean? In what way has your country become less? And what would 'great' look like?

Or is it just meaningless?
 
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I do not feel Trump could have gotten a fair trial because he is so poarizing that finding 12 people that can truely have no bias I just feel could not happen.
That makes it difficult but not unachievable. Merchan bent over backwards to give Trump leeway. Both attorneys got an equal opportunity to present their case to the jury, which both sides had the chance to have people they found acceptable to sit in judgment over the evidence. There are millions of Republicans in NYC but Trump's lawyers could not find one member of the jury to vote not guilty.

It was a fair trial.
 
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He encouraged the worst in the country to come out—the darker past to be repeated. And if those people get their way, Trump or someone like him will be running this country and the rest of us will not get a say.

And there goes the republic.

Most of his actions they're putting him on trial for are a result of him becoming president. He could have just stayed in his palace and towers and lived like a king while ruling his personal empire.

If you are fine with a president that cheats out in the open, you're welcome to him. He should have stayed in his towers, but his greed got the better of him.
 
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There was a video of Stormy Daniel with Bill Maher where she states she did not have sex with Trump.

According to what all I've heard and read, Daniel's has changed her story

Honestly people, one of the key facts of the whole case is that Michael Cohen paid Stormy Daniels $130,000 to say she didn't have sex with Trump.

Of course there will be differences in her story when she's under oath, as opposed to when she's obeying the NDA.
 
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To get out of jail.
Yes, which means that at that point... You've been found guilty. Taking a pardon, you admit to the guilt (if you haven't already plead guilty), but your sentence is forgiven.
Let's say you were convicted of a crime you didn't commit and you were sentenced to 10 years in prison. And then a couple of years later the governor decided you were innocent and issued you a pardon. Would you say your acceptance of that pardon was an admission of guilt?
Yes. It would be. Because my sentence was never overturned. And it never will be either in this case. And the governor "deciding I was innocent" carried no legal worth whatsoever. He might have decided I was innocent because he liked something I said or the socks I wore, or, which is sadly a very real possibility, pardoning me would play well to a group whose votes they are vying for. My guilt in front of the law would still stand, only my punishment would be removed, not the crime.
 
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He encouraged the worst in the country to come out—the darker past to be repeated. And if those people get their way, Trump or someone like him will be running this country and the rest of us will not get a say.

And there goes the republic.
Sounds like the concern is the country becoming more conservative and less liberal.
If you are fine with a president that cheats out in the open, you're welcome to him. He should have stayed in his towers, but his greed got the better of him.
I don't understand the greed part. How did being president make him richer? A billionaire doesn’t become a public servant because there's more money in it.
 
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It's rather strange to see a Christian attacking belief. Using the same kind of jargon atheist use to mock belief.
Surely you have to know that this is an unfair analogy. You are basically saying that since we Christians believe in something in the absence of really solid evidence - which is indeed the case - it is therefore reasonable to believe in stolen elections in the absence of evidence.

Applying your reasoning, I could claim that a Christian should not attack belief in unicorns since, after all, we "believe in things unseen".

Come on, make it at least believable - your analogy is deeply flawed for a number of reasons which I can get into if you want me to.
They have what they consider to be evidence. You say it's not evidence, they say it is. That's the way it goes regarding many things, including belief in Christ.
If they have such "evidence", where is it? Why have all court cases about election fraud been dismissed?

And, again, the analogy to "belief in Christ" is entirely inappropriate as I will endeavour to explain in another post.
 
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