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But it wasn't all that strong. That's the point. A definite candidate for appeal. Why do you think appellate courts exist?
Strong enough. For an appeal to be granted the defence must demonstrate that the trial was defective in some way or that new evidence has been discovered that would likely influence the jury's decision.

You can't simply appeal in the hope of a different verdict.
 
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I'm wondering what exactly is supposed to make Daniels not credible. For Cohen, his involvement and jail time would tend to actually lend credence to his statements about the matter as he was directly involved.
According to what all I've heard and read, Daniel's has changed her story around a lot over the years, and Cohen holds a grudge against Trump. Plus he's been convicted for perjury.
 
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Strong enough. For an appeal to be granted the defence must demonstrate that the trial was defective in some way or that new evidence has been discovered that would likely influence the jury's decision.

You can't simply appeal in the hope of a different verdict.
The appeal will be based on the trial being defective.
 
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That is not what happened here. A legitimate investigation led to a conviction.

America is not a police state.
False! There was nothing legit about this sham trial . America has become a police state like many third world countries. The blindness of many people on the left is leading to the complete destruction of this constitutional Republic. This sham trial is about stopping a political opponent who is winning by every measure. Police state tactics like this have never been used in this country before. Cries of “no one is above the law” ring hollow from many who are over seeing the destruction of America while being duped by George Soros’s of the world.
 
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We all know "convicted felon" is going to be said as much as possible. It's the latest great blue hope.
“Convicted felon “ was the only goal of the left in this sham trial. This joke of a trial will be overturned, it is full of appealable errors. Trump has only been made stronger by this miscalculation.
 
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If Trump can quickly end the war in Ukraine, then for that alone everything could be forgiven. After all, there is nothing more valuable than human lives. And every day hundreds of Ukrainians die because of the war! And hundreds more Ukrainians become crippled every day! When will all this end? Trump said he knew how to end the war quickly.

After all, it is already clear that Ukraine will no longer win anything on the battlefield. Trump was right then that Ukraine does not have the ability to defeat Russia on the battlefield. We need to look for other options.
 
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Seems you can post whatever you like because maybe somebody told you or you read somewhere or this story said such and such. I know as a fact what you haven't done is spend any time looking for either the video or a transcription of it. She said nothing of the sort: Bill Maher unleashes on Stormy Daniels’ testimony in Trump trial: 'She's a bad witness!'

"You say it's not a Me Too case," Maher said to her at the time.

"It's not a Me Too case," Daniels responded. "I wasn't assaulted. I wasn't attacked, or raped, or coerced or blackmailed…. They tried to shove me in the Me Too box to further their own agenda. And first of all, I didn't want to be part of that because it's not the truth and I'm not a victim in that regard."

So he did have sex with her. So I'll repeat: 'Well, if you are suggesting that you wouldn't think less of Trump knowing that he cheated on his wife and had sex with a porn star a few weeks after his son was born and you would ignore this confirmation of his lack of character...'

So are you suggesting that? You can't now deny it happened (which was a risible position in any case) so you have to now confront it. Which is what you should have done in the first place.
What an ironic choice one charged with sex with a porn star or one who showers with his daughter? Hmmm is that really a tough choice?
 
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“Convicted felon “ was the only goal of the left in this sham trial. This joke of a trial will be overturned, it is full of appealable errors. Trump has only been made stronger by this miscalculation.
It all ends up backfiring.
 
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"Destroying the Republic" is too vague to think over.

That's a lot of hyperbole without specifics.

He's most likely going to do what he did the last time he was president. That's what the people can weigh out. They can clearly decide whether or not it was a good idea to replace Trump with Biden based on Trump’s performance as president vs Biden’s performance as president.
It is like you didn't read the rest of the post.

I thought I made it clear, Trump is going to try and stay in office and promise his supporters anything they want while he has his way with the country.
 
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It is like you didn't read the rest of the post.

I thought I made it clear, Trump is going to try and stay in office and promise his supporters anything they want while he has his way with the country.
You made your opinion clear. But that doesn't mean I have to agree with it. He's already been the president, so we already know how he operates as a president.

You might as well go on about how he's going to launch all the nukes first chance he gets. Or that he's going to invade Canada.
 
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After all, there is nothing more valuable than human lives.
As someone who has lost a relative on the battlefield I understand the value of human life as well as anybody. Many are in the same position and take some comfort from the understanding that the sacrifice was for a great cause - liberty.

Trump says he has the solution and we all know what it is. He would sacrifice Ukraine's sovereignty to Russia, thereby risking the wider peace in Europe and putting many more lives in danger.
 
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You made your opinion clear. But that doesn't mean I have to agree with it. He's already been the president, so we already know how he operates as a president.
Yes, I think that makes it clear he should not be president.

You might as well go on about how he's going to launch all the nukes first chance he gets. Or that he's going to invade Canada.
I don't think he will resort to antics like that unless he needs to distract the country from something he did, which may be sooner than later.

Trump is only out for himself and sees the president's office as the only way to protect himself from the consequences of his actions. He doesn't care that much about the country.
 
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What an ironic choice one charged with sex with a porn star...
You really know nothing about the trial, do you...

How is it in any way possible you can argue against Trump being convicted when you don't even know what he was convicted of?
 
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