Trump found guilty on all 34 counts

[rambot]

Sorry but I've heard other presidents say they've done it better, are doing it better than all the rest, too many times to act like this is just a Trump thing.

No you haven't.

No president gave that laundry list Trump gave in that video. That's the brain of an unwell person; someone willing to say that to convince people it's true.


A president saying "I'm doing a good job" is a meaningless statement because no president is going to say we're doing a real terrible job with everything right now. So you seeing a video of Biden or Obama or bush or Johnson saying I'm a great president is not a relevant comparison to thr examples in the video I shared.

Also saying "I'm doing a good job" is actually DIFFERENT (really vague) from saying "nobody knows x better than me" or "I'm the best at x" which is specific and narcissistic and untrue.

 

[childeye 2]

God does not approve of anyone who Hates another person like the Democrats hate Trump.

There are six things the Lord hates,
seven that are detestable to him:
17 haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
18 a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
19 a false witness who pours out lies
and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

Jesus preached to love others as oneself. Love and hatred are not mutually exclusive. Typically, hatred is the product of feeling betrayed in some way or form. I think people dislike Trump because as a narcissist he calls people names and he slanders people who openly don't agree with him. Moreover, Trump has shown that through spreading lies, half-truths, or otherwise preaching the fear of others, he has been able to manipulate others into following his lead. For the spiritually minded, they can be sympathetic because they can see Trump is carnal minded and can't help his blindness to spiritual things. For others, it's difficult to separate the thing they hate about Trump from the man.

I am surprised, as Biden has mocked Christianity in many different ways, that he isn't even more unpopular than he is.

This statement is a definitive statement based on the unproven premise that Biden mocked Christianity. Christianity is about God reconciling mankind to Himself through forgiveness of sin. What proof do you have that Biden mocked Christianity?

 

[QvQ]

This statement is a definitive statement based on the unproven premise that Biden mocked Christianity. Christianity is about God reconciling mankind to Himself through forgiveness of sin. What proof do you have that Biden mocked Christianity?

Bishop Paprocki: Biden Mocks Catholic Faith by Invoking Christ in Pro-Abortion Message

Shepherd of Springfield, Illinois, is accusing the president of ‘making a mockery of our Catholic faith’ after he made the Sign of the Cross while promoting abortion.

www.ncregister.com

Also:
There is proof that Biden has committed every one of list of what the Lord hates.
If you would like I will post links to prove the case.

 

[ozso]

No you haven't.

No president gave that laundry list Trump gave in that video. That's the brain of an unwell person; someone willing to say that to convince people it's true.


A president saying "I'm doing a good job" is a meaningless statement because no president is going to say we're doing a real terrible job with everything right now. So you seeing a video of Biden or Obama or bush or Johnson saying I'm a great president is not a relevant comparison to thr examples in the video I shared.

Also saying "I'm doing a good job" is actually DIFFERENT (really vague) from saying "nobody knows x better than me" or "I'm the best at x" which is specific and narcissistic and untrue.

It's usually "no other president has accomplished what have" et al. It's typical. You're trying to get me to see something as being a much bigger deal than it really is.

 

[childeye 2]

Bishop Paprocki: Biden Mocks Catholic Faith by Invoking Christ in Pro-Abortion Message

Shepherd of Springfield, Illinois, is accusing the president of ‘making a mockery of our Catholic faith’ after he made the Sign of the Cross while promoting abortion.

www.ncregister.com

There is proof that Biden has committed every one of list of what the Lord hates.
If you would like I will post links to prove the case.

The article you've posted is an accusation that Biden was promoting abortion. That is not proof that Biden was mocking Christianity, nor is it even proof Biden was promoting abortion. Why don't you first prove he mocked Christianity before you move on to trying to prove he's done all the things God hates?

 

[7thKeeper]

That's ridiculous.

No, that's literally what it is. Always has been. If you don't know this, you have some civics lessons you need to learn. To accept a pardon is to admit guilt. This has been hashed even on these boards several times during previous cases of pardons.

 

[QvQ]

That is not proof that Biden was mocking Christianity, nor is it even proof Biden was promoting abortion.

The article clearly states it was "making the sign of the Cross"

Shepherd of Springfield, Illinois, is accusing the president of ‘making a mockery of our Catholic faith’ after he made the Sign of the Cross while promoting abortion.

That clearly states that it was a mockery of Catholic Faith to make the sign of the cross while promoting abortion.
The Mexican Bishop branded it "sacrilegious"
It can't be stated more plainly than that.

What was Biden doing at an Pro-Abortion Rally if he wasn't promoting Abortion?
That should be proof he was promoting abortion.
The foremost of Biden's campaign messages is Free Abortion. Government paid for on demand.

 

[childeye 2]

The article clearly states it was "making the sign of the Cross"

I saw Biden make the sign of the cross myself. I'm not debating that. Please note the article said that the bishop was accusing Biden of promoting abortion. An accusation is not proof of anything.

Shepherd of Springfield, Illinois, is accusing the president of ‘making a mockery of our Catholic faith’ after he made the Sign of the Cross while promoting abortion.

That clearly states that it was a mockery of Catholic Faith to make the sign of the cross while promoting abortion.

No, it doesn't. It clearly states there is an accusation being made that Biden was making a Mockery of the Catholic faith because he made the sign of the cross while promoting abortion. An accusation is not proof. Even the inference that Biden was promoting abortion is an assertion.

The Mexican Bishop branded it "sacrilegious"
It can't be stated more plainly than that.

It's nonsensical to conclude that it's sacrilegious based on an unproven accusation that making the sign of the cross while someone is talking about depriving the unborn of life, is intended to make a mockery of the Catholic faith. That is an opinion based on negative prejudice. It is slander.

 

[ozso]

No, that's literally what it is. Always has been. If you don't know this, you have some civics lessons you need to learn. To accept a pardon is to admit guilt. This has been hashed even on these boards several times during previous cases of parsons.

And I think it's ridiculous. Is there some rule that one can't call a SCOTUS decision ridiculous?

 

[7thKeeper]

And I think it's ridiculous. Is there some rule that one can't call a SCOTUS decision ridiculous?

And I think just calling it ridiculous without saying why is ridiculous. If you accept a pardon, it naturally implies that you admit guilt because if you didn't, why would you accept a pardon for something you didn't do?

 

[MrMoe]

Also saying "I'm doing a good job" is actually DIFFERENT (really vague) from saying "nobody knows x better than me" or "I'm the best at x" which is specific and narcissistic and untrue.

During the 2016 presidential race Joe Biden said: "I would have been the best president".

Specific.

Narcissistic.

Untrue.

 

[childeye 2]

During the 2016 presidential race Joe Biden said: "I would have been the best president".

Specific.

Narcissistic.

Untrue.

The claim that Biden said, "I would have been the best President" is misquoted and misleading.

Biden actually said:
"I think I would have been the best president".

The statement above is not narcissistic nor boastful. In fact, it is not even claiming anything definitive because when a person says, "I think", it denotes that it is their opinion, not a fact.

Context is important here and we can see that this statement is in response to a query from the interviewer who wants to know, why Biden didn't end up running for President in 2015. The context shows that Biden is explaining that it's not for a lack of confidence when he indicates that he thinks he would have made a better president than Trump or Hillary. Instead, the reason was because he did not feel he was ready to make such a big commitment.

Biden: "No one should ever seek the Presidency unless they're able to devote their whole heart and soul and passion into just doing that".

 

[QvQ]

What I can't understand is why Trump would pay off Stormy Daniels
In this day and age, when gays are openly declared and elected.
What is the reason for such old fashioned blackmail?
Stormy Daniels said on public television to Bill Maher she never had sex with Trump.
She said Trump never assaulted her.
And Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and still be elected.
Trump likely would not pay off blackmail. He is rich and he knows paying is an admission of guilt and the blackmailer will drain him dry.
Then "a nondisclosure" statement? How legal is that to cover up a crime?
Cohen stated he borrowed the money to pay Daniels
Then billed Trump who paid the invoices.
There isn't any evidence that Trump knew anything about the pay off to Stormy as he only paid Cohen.
This is a highly suspicious case
Then Bragg made a Federal Case out of it. The Statute of Limitations had run out.
The Jury verdict took 9 hours to deliberate on 34 counts.
The entire thing stinks actually.

 

[childeye 2]

What I can't understand is why Trump would pay off Stormy Daniels
In this day and age, when gays are openly declared and elected.

Numerous witness testimonies showed it was to hide the fact that the National enquirer was being used as a campaign asset to help Trump.

 

[QvQ]

Numerous witness testimonies showed it was to hide the fact that the National enquirer was being used as a campaign asset to help Trump.

And what exactly does that have to do with it?
The National Enquirer got the money?
And if receiving funds for being a campaign asset was a crime, NPR et alia should be in the jailhouse now.
Even worse because NPR Is public money.

 

[ozso]

And I think just calling it ridiculous without saying why is ridiculous. If you accept a pardon, it naturally implies that you admit guilt because if you didn't, why would you accept a pardon for something you didn't do?

To get out of jail. Let's say you were convicted of a crime you didn't commit and you were sentenced to 10 years in prison. And then a couple of years later the governor decided you were innocent and issued you a pardon. Would you say your acceptance of that pardon was an admission of guilt?

 

[MrMoe]

The claim that Biden said, "I would have been the best President" is misquoted and misleading.

Biden actually said:
"I think I would have been the best president".

That doesn't change the substance of the statement.

The statement above is not narcissistic nor boastful.

Saying you would be the best president. Meaning better than Hilary or Trump, neither of whom had even won the race yet, and having never been president himself before, shows a exaggerated over confidence in is own ability. "Exhibiting an unrealistic sense of superiority" is a trait of narcissism. Hence it is narcissistic and boastful.

In fact, it is not claiming anything definitive because when a person says, "I think", it denotes that it is an opinion.

Opinions can also be narcissistic/boastful statements.

Context is important and this statement is in response to a query of, why Biden didn't end up running for President? The context shows Biden is explaining that it's not for a lack confidence when he says that he thinks he would have made a better President than Trump or Hillary. The reason is because he was not yet ready to make such a commitment.

Biden: "No one should ever seek the Presidency unless they're able to devote their whole heart and soul and passion into just doing that".

Funny, Trump said something similar in the 80s.

Reporter Rona Barrett: "Some people the ultimate goal in life has been becoming the president of the United States. Would you like to be the president of the United States?"

Trump: I really don't believe I would, Rona, but I would like to see somebody as the president who could do the job and there are very capable people in this country."

Rona Barrett: Most people who are capable are not running for office, most men are frightened of politics today."

Trump: "It is a shame isn't it yes, it is a shame the most capable people are not necessarily running for political office and that is a very sad commentary on the country. They had major corporations and they had this and that but they are not running for political office."

 

[childeye 2]

And what exactly does that have to do with it?
The National Enquirer got the money?

No, Trump got help in his campaign which counts as contributions to his campaign which by law should not have been allowed, but they were not reported. Pecker would use his position to catch and kill any stories that were bad for Trump. Pecker would also print and publish stories to make Hillary look bad. The National enquirer was covertly working as an arm of the campaign.

And if receiving funds for being a campaign asset was a crime, NPR et alia should be in the jailhouse now.
Even worse because NPR Is public money.

It's not that. There's no evidence that the National enquirer made any money.

 

[QvQ]

It's not that. There's no evidence that the National enquirer made any money

So what is the crime?
Some media outlets edit stories to make Trump look bad or Biden look good
Or simply don't print what will make the favored candidate look bad.
Biden even called editors on the carpet to say the outlets weren't touting his "success"
That is against the law or it should be; strong arming the press
But that is editorial discretion.
You mean Bragg could prosecute MSM for bias? This sounds like great good fun.

If National Enquirer didn't get any money, what crime is there?
That Trump didn't report that National Enquirer was biased?
Should Biden report Joy Baer and Whoopi? To whom?
This case just plain stinks!

 

[Bradskii]

What I can't understand is why Trump would pay off Stormy Daniels

Well, if you are suggesting that you wouldn't think less of Trump knowing that he cheated on his wife and had sex with a porn star a few weeks after his son was born and you would ignore this confirmation of his lack of character - and that all his other supporters would likely ignore it as well...then I guess he wasted his money.

Trump's opinion, for what it is worth, is that it would cause some reasonable people to have serious doubts about his suitability for the presidency. So he paid her off and broke the law in doing so.