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The Problem with Breast Implants

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Correct, it's existence in Western culture can be traced to one source... the Catholic Church.

From your responses I'm assuming that you find the practice of infant circumcision to be less than admirable.
You are saying what practice is in existence in Western culture due to the RCC???
 
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If you can wear breast implants inside your bra,
why would you need them inside your body?
Depends on what people do for a living. Some jobs require them to expose themselves. We use to go to garage sales for baby stuff. Often the women were selling off their sexy looking bathing suits with the baby stuff.
 
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If you can wear breast implants inside your bra,
why would you need them inside your body?
You mean padding your bra or cutlets? They’re not implants, and they’re not practical for a huge number of women.
 
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They make bras that are not padded? In ballet the men wear padding. Everyone pretends like they do not notice :)
Yes, there are tons of non padded bras out there… They’re not hard to find.
 
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Yes, there are tons of non padded bras out there… They’re not hard to find.
There are women that are modest and try to cover up a bit. Even my wife does not wear a bathing suit. If she goes swimming she wears a tee shirt and shorts. John Wesley said his biggest mistake was not to teach people to be more modest. There is a time and a season for everything.
 
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There are women that are modest and try to cover up a bit. Even my wife does not wear a bathing suit. If she goes swimming she wears a tee shirt and shorts. John Wesley said his biggest mistake was not to teach people to be more modest. There is a time and a season for everything.
Ok…?
 
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I always heard what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
This emphasizes the idea of fairness and equal treatment.
People have trouble understanding sarcasm.
They get it confused with humor.

I attend a church were there are women that have long hair and long dresses.
When they go to the alter to pray. (1 Corinthians 11 11. For the sake of the angels.)

I think this has to do with modesty.
But I am a man so what do I know about why women do what they do?
Why some are modest and some like to flaunt what they have.
 
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I always heard what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
This emphasizes the idea of fairness and equal treatment.
People have trouble understanding sarcasm.
They get it confused with humor.
Ok…?
I attend a church were there are women that have long hair and long dresses.
When they go to the alter to pray. (1 Corinthians 11 11. For the sake of the angels.)
If that’s what they feel like doing, then hurrah for that.
I think this has to do with modesty.
But I am a man so what do I know about why women do what they do?
Why some are modest and some like to flaunt what they have.
Maybe they are, maybe they aren’t, but the solution is that if it’s not your thing then don’t do it.
 
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What about dying or bleaching one's hair?

That has always seemed evil to me, and you know, it isn't Biblical. (But I bet Jezebel resorted to a bit of lippy now and again.)
Who cares?
 
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Correct, it's existence in Western culture can be traced to one source... the Catholic Church.

From your responses I'm assuming that you find the practice of infant circumcision to be less than admirable.

In the US circumcision can be traced to anti-masturbation medical advocates from the early 20th century, not the Catholic Church. As far as I'm aware, it's not particularly common in most Western nations except for those religions which practice it.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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In the US circumcision can be traced to anti-masturbation medical advocates from the early 20th century, not the Catholic Church. As far as I'm aware, it's not particularly common in most Western nations except for those religions which practice it.

-CryptoLutheran
Ah, but were those advocates themselves Catholic?
 
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Ah, but were those advocates themselves Catholic?

I would assume at least some were. But I would also assume there were as many or more that weren't.

19th and early 20th century medicine was still the realm of the wild and the zany. This is the same period of time where people thought eating corn flakes would stop people from feeling hot and bothered; and said that women who claimed to enjoy sex were clinically insane.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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I would assume at least some were. But I would also assume there were as many or more that weren't.

19th and early 20th century medicine was still the realm of the wild and the zany. This is the same period of time where people thought eating corn flakes would stop people from feeling hot and bothered; and said that women who claimed to enjoy sex were clinically insane.

-CryptoLutheran
Yes, medicine was unscientific in many aspects; even these days many zany ideas persist - herbalism, homeopathic potions and a host of others are still around.
 
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Yes, medicine was unscientific in many aspects; even these days many zany ideas persist - herbalism, homeopathic potions and a host of others are still around.

My only real point here is that I don't think saying The Catholic Church is the reason for modern circumcision in the West is a valid argument. Especially given that, generally, Catholicism has historically frowned on circumcision because of historic theological and religious issues that go back to the earliest years of Christianity, when there were still ongoing debates among Christians over whether Christians are obligated to observe Jewish laws or not; with circumcision being one of the big ones.

And my own (granted, meager) reading on the history of the topic tends to suggest that modern medical circumcision (as opposed to religious circumcision) is 1) mostly American and 2) a result of early 20th century medical views.

To focus on the topic on the whole: It's not my business what people do with their bodies, whether it is cosmetic surgery or something else. The only caveat would involve the subject of self-harm; if a person is engaging in self-harm then we should focus on helping them find healing for the emotional traumas and injuries they have experienced. Whatever personal opinion I, or anyone else, has over something like tattoos, piercings, cosmetic surgery, or the like is completely meaningless--because it's not my business.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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