Justice Thomas raised crucial question about legitimacy of special counsel's prosecution of Trump

[Postvieww]

Great, because with that transparent bluff, the pot is mine.

Your pot is empty!

 

[Postvieww]

Stormy is the most important witness to the events that precipitated the whole criminal case (and the least slimy). As I recall the defense lawyers tried to discredit her because of her profession and she kept turning their questions back on them. She did not "rant" on the stand and her testimony was less "XXX" than what had been published from prior interview in the media.

Explain to the forum how wether or not Trump wore a condom is relevant to a book keeping entry? The point here she was allowed to pontificate on Irrelevant information and the witness with first hand knowledge that Cohen lied to this court was hampered. Yet he did admit to stealing $60,000 from Trump. Yeah you probably will justify that fact or ignore it altogether.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Explain to the forum how wether or not Trump wore a condom is relevant to a book keeping entry?

I don't know the context of the question she was asked, so I don't know why it was relevant or irrelevant.

The point here she was allowed to pontificate on Irrelevant information and the witness with first hand knowledge that Cohen lied to this court was hampered.

Cohen repeatedly admitted to lying.

Yet he did admit to stealing $60,000 from Trump. Yeah you probably will justify that fact or ignore it altogether.

Nope. I'm going to point out your inaccuracy: It was $30,000 that Cohen overreported as expenses for reimbursement. (Original price $50k. Bargained to $20k + sports memorabilia. Reported to Trump Org as $50k.)

 

[Postvieww]

Nope. I'm going to point out your inaccuracy: It was $30,000 that Cohen overreported as expenses for reimbursement. (Original price $50k. Bargained to $20k + sports memorabilia. Reported to Trump Org as $50k.)

“(Cohen described the $420,000 as being $130,000 for the Daniels payment plus $50,000 for Red Finch — both “grossed up” by doubling them — plus $60,000 to account for what Cohen viewed as an insufficient annual bonus.)” https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ng-trumps-lawyers-undercut-their-own-premise/

 

[essentialsaltes]

“(Cohen described the $420,000 as being $130,000 for the Daniels payment plus $50,000 for Red Finch — both “grossed up” by doubling them — plus $60,000 to account for what Cohen viewed as an insufficient annual bonus.)” https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ng-trumps-lawyers-undercut-their-own-premise/

That's what he and Weisselberg (and Trump) agreed to. That's not theft.

 

[Postvieww]

Cohen repeatedly admitted to lying.

To this court in this case???? I guess you would say he was telling truth when it serves the purpose of hurting Trump.

 

[Hans Blaster]

“(Cohen described the $420,000 as being $130,000 for the Daniels payment plus $50,000 for Red Finch — both “grossed up” by doubling them — plus $60,000 to account for what Cohen viewed as an insufficient annual bonus.)” https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ng-trumps-lawyers-undercut-their-own-premise/

The "doubling" was because Trump was paying his taxes. He didn't have to. What Cohen got ($30 k more than he spent) for the "Red Finch" payment after taxes was the same as he would have gotten if it had just been reimbursed regularly. There was no need for the T.Org. to pay back the "Red Finch" outlay in this fashion. They weren't trying to cover anything up.

 

[Hans Blaster]

To this court in this case???? I guess you would say he was telling truth when it serves the purpose of hurting Trump.

What lies to the court in this case?

 

[Postvieww]

That's what he and Weisselberg (and Trump) agreed to. That's not theft.

So you say he was just half the crook I said he was. That really is a glowing boost to his credibility.?

 

[Hazelelponi]

attempt to pass through the wall of doors and windows

While I would agree with you the behavior was a bit much, but to shoot someone in the head is pretty trigger happy, speaking of trigger happy cops shooting unarmed individuals...

It was not good police work in the least, especially considering they had a bit of a heads up that people were breaking in, so plenty of time to make a plan.

Instead we see a lone cop just start shooting. That's not keeping your head and having organized police work.

 

[Postvieww]

What lies to the court in this case?

Everything he said connecting Trump to illegal book keeping entries. The last defense witness refuted that, when he was allowed to speak by this corrupt judge. You said he repeatedly admitted to lying. I was asking you if he admitted to repeatedly lying to the court in this case.

 

[Postvieww]

I don't know the context of the question she was asked, so I don't know why it was relevant or irrelevant.

It is my understanding she went into graphic detail without being ask to. The judge even commented that was unnecessary but he allowed it to continue because he is a corrupt judge.

 

[Postvieww]

That's what he and Weisselberg (and Trump) agreed to. That's not theft.

Trump’s ex-fixer Michael Cohen admits stealing $60K from him after Trump stiffed vendor in bizarre scheme to rig popularity poll

Donald Trump’s fixer-turned-foe Michael Cohen coolly confessed to stealing $60,000 from his ex-boss.

nypost.com

 

[Postvieww]

As such, by Jeanine Pirro's own words, we should not trust anything she says as she is a known liar.

So we can conclude nothing Cohen said can be trusted! Thanks for clarifying your position.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Trump’s ex-fixer Michael Cohen admits stealing $60K from him after Trump stiffed vendor in bizarre scheme to rig popularity poll

Donald Trump’s fixer-turned-foe Michael Cohen coolly confessed to stealing $60,000 from his ex-boss.

nypost.com

Aha, i thought you were identifying the $60K with "plus $60,000 to account for what Cohen viewed as an insufficient annual bonus.)"

 

[stevil]

This wasn't the question before the Court. It was irrelevant to the matter at hand. Trump did not appeal or sue based on the appointment of Special Counsel.

Is it unusual for a justice of the Supreme Court to be suggesting that the Prosecutors address a concern that the defense team have never brought up?
Or does this commonly happen?

 

[stevil]

Explain to the forum how wether or not Trump wore a condom is relevant to a book keeping entry? The point here she was allowed to pontificate on Irrelevant information

It was the defense team's job to object when they felt the need, but they did not object. The judge isn't there to do the defense team's job for them.

and the witness with first hand knowledge that Cohen lied to this court was hampered.

Well, more to the point, the witness was making snide remarks, eye rolls etc and being disruptive. The judge had to nip that in the bud.

Yet he did admit to stealing $60,000 from Trump. Yeah you probably will justify that fact or ignore it altogether.

It will be interesting to see if Cohen gets criminally charged for this (he should). I assume he wasn't given immunity in order to testify.

 

[Hans Blaster]

While I would agree with you the behavior was a bit much, but to shoot someone in the head is pretty trigger happy, speaking of trigger happy cops shooting unarmed individuals...

No one was shot in the head. She was actually (but stealthily) armed.

It was not good police work in the least, especially considering they had a bit of a heads up that people were breaking in, so plenty of time to make a plan.

She was not surrendering.

Instead we see a lone cop just start shooting. That's not keeping your head and having organized police work.

There is nothing about the behavior of the officer that indicates it was done in haste or while losing control. Review the video.

Why did you reply to this 2-week-old post that wasn't even on-topic?

 

[Hans Blaster]

Everything he said connecting Trump to illegal book keeping entries.

Those were payments to him (Cohen). That he received them is certainly germane to the case. Cohen, himself, did not report on the entries in the ledger, but did regarding the checks he received. How did Cohen lie about those? (You can cite the transcript as needed if you like.)

The last defense witness refuted that, when he was allowed to speak by this corrupt judge.

How did Costello refute anything about the ledger or the payments? He was a go-between from Cohen to Guiliani, not a participant in the alleged crime.

You said he repeatedly admitted to lying. I was asking you if he admitted to repeatedly lying to the court in this case.

Then it wasn't clear what you were asking. I don't have any information about Cohen lying to this court. I was referring to his prior lies (including under oath) before this case. He admitted to many of those on the stand.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Is it unusual for a justice of the Supreme Court to be suggesting that the Prosecutors address a concern that the defense team have never brought up?
Or does this commonly happen?

I have no idea. It does seem that by the nature of their questions you can often detect the lean of the Justice before oral arguments. (The appellant and appellee have already file multiple rounds of arguments that the justices and their clerks have read and digested and prepared clarifying questions about. The odd part with J. Thomas' question was that it wasn't ralted to the issue at hand before the court.