Simplicity verses religion and politics

[HopeSings]

I see simplicity in Christ and I find peace in it. I don't understand people's obsession with politics and denominations however. People think that they're doing God's will in these things but I don't agree. These are the things that divide us.

 

[Hammster]

I see simplicity in Christ and I find peace in it. I don't understand people's obsession with politics and denominations however. People think that they're doing God's will in these things but I don't agree. These are the things that divide us.

Should everyone think as you do, then?

 

[d taylor]

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The simple message of how to receive God's free gift of Eternal Life has certainly been polluted. Believe in Jesus for Eternal Life is really never heard.

 

[BobRyan]

I see simplicity in Christ and I find peace in it. I don't understand people's obsession with politics and denominations however.

Politics is not a religion but some political activists seek to promote that which the Bible calls abomination and sin. Those who have read their Bibles choose not to support a kind of politics that - directly opposes the Bible, even makes the Bible hate speech etc.

Denominations are all about "what do you think the Bible says". They exist because the Christian church began to distance itself from knowing the details of the Bible - when it was one single denomination -- and introduced error into the church just as Paul predicted in Acts 20 , just as John reported in 3 John 1, just as Jude stated in Jude 1, just as John predicted in Rev 11,12,13...

People think that they're doing God's will in these things but I don't agree. These are the things that divide us.

Let's start with the Bible "alone".

Let's pick the one that has 66 books since it allows us to have the same OT that the Jews have.

Let's look at the Ten Commandments
Lets ask if people differ on "not making a graven image" in worship - the 2nd commandment. Turns out denominations differ.

Let's ask if we agree on what the Bible says about Sabbath in Ex 20:8-11 and see that different people take a different view

Just about any topic will get you "opinions may vary".

So stick with what the Bible says - even when it is not popular or not "tradition"

Stick with the idea that Christians are never to do violence to Christians just because beliefs are different. That weeds out a lot of groups as soon as you take some simple steps.

Let's take what the Bible says on "page 1" and page 2 -- about Life on Earth created in a literal 7 day week. Lets notice that this same literal statement is made in the form of legal code in the Ten Commandments in Ex 20:11 so no way to "fudge the word" to bend it to mean something other than what it says in that case.

Well that would get you a lot of people "differing". So you need to make a choice in those cases.

 

[HopeSings]

Should everyone think as you do,

No they should be divided like the world is

 

[Hammster]

No they should be divided like the world is

I don’t understand what you mean.

 

[HopeSings]

I don’t understand what you mean.

No one should be like me i guess. They should instead be divided into political and religious factions. People talk about unity of faith but if someone suggests actually doing this they're hated.

 

[Hammster]

No one should be like me i guess. They should instead be divided into political and religious factions. People talk about unity of faith but if someone suggests actually doing this they're hated.

Why should they be divided?

 

[HopeSings]

Why should they be divided?

Because it's what they choose

 

[Hammster]

Because it's what they choose

I guess I don’t get your point. You say on one hand that politics and denominations are bad, but then advocate for them later.

 

[HopeSings]

I guess I don’t get your point. You say on one hand that politics and denominations are bad, but then advocate for them later.

No

 

[Hammster]

No

No they should be divided like the world is

They should instead be divided into political and religious factions.

It sure looks like it.

 

[HopeSings]

It sure looks like it.

Paul used sarcasm. Forgive me.

 

[Hammster]

Paul used sarcasm. Forgive me.

So then I should assume the opposite of your respons, and conclude that everyone should be like you.

 

[HopeSings]

So then I should assume the opposite of your respons, and conclude that everyone should be like you.

Be like Paul

 

[Hammster]

Be like Paul

Paul wrote to denominations.

 

[HopeSings]

Paul wrote to denominations.

1 Corinthians 4. He taught it to all the church's. All churches were the same

 

[Hammster]

1 Corinthians 4. He taught it to all the church's. All churches were the same

No they weren’t. They each had issues.

 

[HopeSings]

No they weren’t. They each had issues.

They all had division. They all dealt with the same sins. Maybe they had some uniqueness between them but they were basically the same. Paul said that he taught the same in every church. See the end of 1 Corinthians chapter 4.

 

[Hammster]

They all had division. They all dealt with the same sins. Maybe they had some uniqueness between them but they were basically the same. Paul said that he taught the same in every church. See the end of 1 Corinthians chapter 4.

What specifically are you referring to?