Tump/RNC Sue Nevada to Overturn Law Allowing Counting of Mail-In Votes Received After Election Day

[iluvatar5150]

Republican National Committee sues to stop legal counting of ballots after Election Day

The Republican National Committee and Donald Trump's 2024 presidential campaign sued the state of Nevada in a bid to stop a law which permits the counting of votes up to four days after Election Day.

lawandcrime.com

 

[rambot]

No reason for this to pass...
Just more effort for Republicans to disenfranchise folks

 

[AlexB23]

No reason for this to pass...
Just more effort for Republicans to disenfranchise folks

Not all Republicans support this, but the modern GOP lost the first part of its name (it is no longer grand). The Republicans in my state wanted to ban drop boxes for ballots, and did back in 2022. That hampers those with lack of transport from voting.

Wisconsin governor urges state Supreme Court to revoke restrictions on absentee ballot drop boxes

Democratic Gov. Tony Evers is urging the Wisconsin Supreme Court to once again allow absentee ballot drop boxes in places beyond the election offices they are now restricted to.

apnews.com

 

[Pommer]

Not all Republicans support this, but the modern GOP lost the first part of its name (it is no longer grand). The Republicans in my state wanted to ban drop boxes for ballots, and did back in 2022. That hampers those with lack of transport from voting.

Wisconsin governor urges state Supreme Court to revoke restrictions on absentee ballot drop boxes

Democratic Gov. Tony Evers is urging the Wisconsin Supreme Court to once again allow absentee ballot drop boxes in places beyond the election offices they are now restricted to.

apnews.com

Once that they acknowledged that theirs was a minority party, the “rules” for voting got really important as a way to eliminate some of the voters who vote wrongly.
Funny, that.

 

[AlexB23]

Once that they acknowledged that theirs was a minority party, the “rules” for voting got really important as a way to eliminate some of the voters who vote wrongly.
Funny, that.

Yeah, the MAGA want to make our entire country into a fascist dictatorship.

Opinion Piece: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/30/trump-dictator-2024-election-robert-kagan/

 

[ozso]

Yeah, the MAGA want to make our entire country into a fascist dictatorship.

Opinion Piece: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/30/trump-dictator-2024-election-robert-kagan/

In what ways was our country a fascist dictatorship from 2017 to 2021?

 

[AlexB23]

In what ways was our country a fascist dictatorship from 2017 to 2021?

It was not fascist yet, but it might become fascist in 2025. Trump needs to stop kissing Putin and Xi.

 

[Hans Blaster]

In what ways was our country a fascist dictatorship from 2017 to 2021?

No, that's silly. It takes time to convert a country to authoritarianism. Even longer when there are many democratic institutions. 2017-2021 was a test period. Donald knows what didn't work last time. Next time he'll only have sycophants, yes men, and authoritarian activists in power. None of those squishy "normal republicans" or "adults in the room" next time around.

 

[ozso]

No, that's silly. It takes time to convert a country to authoritarianism. Even longer when there are many democratic institutions. 2017-2021 was a test period. Donald knows what didn't work last time. Next time he'll only have sycophants, yes men, and authoritarian activists in power. None of those squishy "normal republicans" or "adults in the room" next time around.

So the US will actually be a fascist dictatorship by 2029. What do you think will be some of the highlights of that will be?

 

[ozso]

It was not fascist yet, but it might become fascist in 2025. Trump needs to stop kissing Putin and Xi.

That soon eh? What's going to be fascist about it?

 

[Hans Blaster]

So the US will actually be a fascist dictatorship by 2029. What do you think will be some of the highlights of that will be?

First, the year 2029 won't have any particular meaning. There is no way trump will just give up his office in 4 years anyway.

There will be monitoring of the reproductive capacity of women as he give the "under his eye" crowd free reign to oppress locally. The streets will be filled with soldiers as he moves to deport all migrants. Then the economy will collapse due to a labor shortage and things get worse from there.

 

[Pommer]

First, the year 2029 won't have any particular meaning. There is no way trump will just give up his office in 4 years anyway.

There will be monitoring of the reproductive capacity of women as he give the "under his eye" crowd free reign to oppress locally. The streets will be filled with soldiers as he moves to deport all migrants. Then the economy will collapse due to a labor shortage and things get worse from there.

“Good times”!

 

[ozso]

First, the year 2029 won't have any particular meaning. There is no way trump will just give up his office in 4 years anyway.

There will be monitoring of the reproductive capacity of women as he give the "under his eye" crowd free reign to oppress locally. The streets will be filled with soldiers as he moves to deport all migrants. Then the economy will collapse due to a labor shortage and things get worse from there.

So cutting down on abortion and deporting a lot of the invaders Biden let in.

I find it interesting how the economy and the labor shortage has gotten worse rather than better since the huge invasion.

But none of that describes a fascist dictatorship though. Except the idea that an 83 year old man is going to maintain a perpetual presidency.

 

[iluvatar5150]

I find it interesting how the economy ... has gotten worse rather than better since the huge invasion.

When did this invasion supposedly begin and by what metric has the economy gotten worse since then?

 

[ozso]

When did this invasion supposedly begin and by what metric has the economy gotten worse since then?

The number of invaders has grown each year and inflation is the worst it's been in 40 years. I'm sure there's a squiggly line chart showing things are wonderful, but people know what they're experiencing in day to day living. Even those in denial because the squiggly line says otherwise.

 

[iluvatar5150]

The number of invaders has grown each year and inflation is the worst it's been in 40 years. I'm sure there's a squiggly line chart showing things are wonderful, but people know what they're experiencing in day to day living. Even those in denial because the squiggly line says otherwise.

Huh, that's not what I'm experiencing in my day to day living. My wife and I, along with many of our friends, are making loads more money than we were a few years ago. Murder rates in my city are way down. Even the mosquitoes are down. My only real lingering issue is the fact that I have the immune system of an AIDS patient and my daughter is a walking petri dish who likes to cough in my face while wrestling with me, but it's hard to blame that on Biden, even if it does coincide with his election.

But I suppose I shouldn't have expected a serious answer.

 

[ozso]

Huh, that's not what I'm experiencing in my day to day living. My wife and I, along with many of our friends, are making loads more money than we were a few years ago. Murder rates in my city are way down. Even the mosquitoes are down. My only real lingering issue is the fact that I have the immune system of an AIDS patient and my daughter is a walking petri dish who likes to cough in my face while wrestling with me, but it's hard to blame that on Biden, even if it does coincide with his election.

But I suppose I shouldn't have expected a serious answer.

I'm making more money too, but I'm also paying a lot more for goods and services. Can you explain why I'm seeing an increase of closed boarded up buildings when I drive around town? How are businesses closing down the sign of a good economy?

 

[iluvatar5150]

I'm making more money too, but I'm also paying a lot more for goods and services.

I’m paying more, too, but my increased earnings outpace my inflation-induced spending increases by huge margins.

Can you explain why I'm seeing an increase of closed boarded up buildings when I drive around town?

Not having any idea where you live, I couldn’t say. Things aren’t getting boarded up here. What makes you think that’s indicative of a national phenomenon and not something more local to you?

How are businesses closing down the sign of a good economy?

You know, don’t you, that economic growth and prosperity isn’t distributed evenly, right? (that subject was part of what won Paul Krugman his Nobel) Even while the average is gaining, some places can still fail.

 

[ozso]

I’m paying more, too, but my increased earnings outpace my inflation-induced spending increases by huge margins.


Not having any idea where you live, I couldn’t say. Things aren’t getting boarded up here. What makes you think that’s indicative of a national phenomenon and not something more local to you?


You know, don’t you, that economic growth and prosperity isn’t distributed evenly, right? (that subject was part of what won Paul Krugman his Nobel) Even while the average is gaining, some places can still fail.

Right, some people like you aren't suffering more than they were four years ago, whereas many more throughout the nation have been increasingly with each passing year.

 

[Hans Blaster]

So cutting down on abortion and deporting a lot of the invaders Biden let in.

Since I don't think I could convince you that any phase of a state free-for-all to stop abortion would be "bad", I'll skip that and instead talk about Trump's deportation plan.

The first part is that he's not talking about the ones "Biden let in". Trump is planning the deportation of *all* "illegals" inside the US. This amounts to over 10 million people. The costs would be enormous.

How do you find and remove 10 million people inside our country? Well Trump plans to use the military, particularly the National Guard. This is a problem for several reasons. First, the National Guard works for the states, not the President. Second, use of the military for police work is explicitly forbidden by federal law (Posse Comitatus Act). Third, from a more practical view, the national guard has no experience doing police work.

I find it interesting how the economy and the labor shortage has gotten worse rather than better since the huge invasion.

Our economy has modest growth (a couple percent), mildly high inflation (4-5% annual, versus 2-3% for the prior decade), and low unemployment. The economy may not be perfect, but any "worsening" isn't all severe and is not tied temporally to changes in migration. (The causes are pretty clear and are largely tied to the aftershocks of the pandemic.)

The "illegals" include a large number of workers. That is the primary reason people come here illegally. Some do bring small children, but we are mostly talking about deporting workers. (There are no social services from the government for them.)

A mass deportation will remove millions of workers from the economy who not only do work, but spend money. There would be a severe labor shortage, especially in some areas where large numbers of undocumented workers work.

But none of that describes a fascist dictatorship though. Except the idea that an 83 year old man is going to maintain a perpetual presidency.

I'm sure some other fascist will wrest it from him. That's they way they work.