Yet Again, At Planet Fitness...

[Ana the Ist]

'women's o;y space is a conservative construct.

Proof?

Women's restrooms, women’s sports, women’s only spaces followed the liberal push for women in the workplace (which required such accommodations) so it seems more likely these are liberal constructs and you're the one destroying them and pushing us backwards before the 50s.

 

[A2SG]

That's faith.

No it isn't.

-- A2SG, sorry, is this the five minute argument or the full half hour?

 

[Pommer]

They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! Revelation 6:16

“Appealing to gravity“ isn!t a call for violence either.

 

[Ceallaigh]

It is more discriminatory to check everyone's genitals at the entrance of a locker room

I'm not interested in debating fiction.

 

[Hans Blaster]

I'd have to call that being in denial.

About the drag of religion on our society? I'm not in denial about that.

 

[MrMoe]

'women's o;y space is a conservative construct.

Source: Trust me bro.

Do you think they would prefer getting naked with a bunch of women or have a private shower? I understand that conservative wish that nothing changes but the world changes with or without the agreement of conservatives.

Conservatives understand that things change, but not always for the better. This change of allowing biological men in women's spaces is not for the better. That is why conservative are rightfully against it.

 

[Ceallaigh]

'women's o;y space is a conservative construct. Do you think they would prefer getting naked with a bunch of women or have a private shower? I understand that conservative wish that nothing changes but the world changes with or without the agreement of conservatives. Like I said, there is no need to change any laws, we can just let the laws of capitalism decide if people want a private shower or a shower with half a dozen others in the space with you.

It's not about conservatives. It's about women's rights.

 

[Ceallaigh]

About the drag of religion on our society? I'm not in denial about that.

It's pretty clear the further our society moves away from foundational Christian values the more corrupt it becomes.

 

[IceJad]

'women's o;y space is a conservative construct. Do you think they would prefer getting naked with a bunch of women or have a private shower? I understand that conservative wish that nothing changes but the world changes with or without the agreement of conservatives. Like I said, there is no need to change any laws, we can just let the laws of capitalism decide if people want a private shower or a shower with half a dozen others in the space with you.

Women & Men only spaces are not a conservative construct. It is a societal construct derived from centuries of civilization advancement. Your perception of change is but a local viewpoint. The vast majority of nations and cultures around the world do not subscribe to men in women toilet. The world is not changing, only your part of the world and even that is not a total.

We in the rest of the world still understand societal decency.

 

[Hans Blaster]

It's pretty clear the further our society moves away from foundational Christian values the more corrupt it becomes.

You still haven't told me when the US had a Christian culture, now you claim foundational Christian values. What (or when) exactly were those?

 

[Ceallaigh]

“Appealing to gravity“ isn!t a call for violence either.

How do you think the wrath of Jesus will be manifested?

 

[Ceallaigh]

You still haven't told me when the US had a Christian culture, now you claim foundational Christian values. What (or when) exactly were those?

My original statement regarding this was based on the complaint of Christian values being pushed on society and how that needs to end. If you don't think that's the case then there's no way for me to discuss the matter with you.

 

[IceJad]

How do you think the wrath of Jesus will be manifested?

Whether God punishes or not is not for us to say. His Will be done at His Own time. Even if punishment comes we are in no position to claim truth either. Unless God specifically told us so.

I think it will be more productive in focusing on the disaster that is the assault that happened. It was the most obvious "I told you so" to the community who said we are bigoted to even suggest the possibility. And this is not the first of such cases. The fact that there are people still defending this policy is the worrying part of progressive society.

Revictimizing the victims again and again just to defend a cause.

 

[Pommer]

How do you think the wrath of Jesus will be manifested?

I don’t, since I do not believe that Jesus exists anymore, (if He ever did).

 

[Ceallaigh]

I don’t, since I do not believe that Jesus exists anymore, (if He ever did).

Then there was no point in you commenting on a post I made to someone who does believe.

 

[RileyG]

Unless they are trans of course. Then you can disrespect them and make them uncomfortable and that is just fine, apparently.

What disrespect? Trans people pretend to be something they aren’t. Stating biological facts isn’t disrespect and I’m sorry that makes some people uncomfortable.

 

[BCP1928]

What disrespect? Trans people pretend to be something they aren’t. Stating biological facts isn’t disrespect and I’m sorry that makes some people uncomfortable.

Still, though I don't agree with him in all respects, rturner has raised an interesting issue about personal modesty. Women are to be protected from seeing a strange male genitalia in public. I sympathize with that as I don't find the sight of another man's genitals particularly edifying either, but for some reason I have to put up with it. Why the asymmetry?

 

[Chesterton]

Still, though I don't agree with him in all respects, rturner has raised an interesting issue about personal modesty. Women are to be protected from seeing a strange male genitalia in public. I sympathize with that as I don't find the sight of another man's genitals particularly edifying either, but for some reason I have to put up with it. Why the asymmetry?

Because men and women are different. They are equal, they are complementary, but they are different.

 

[BCP1928]

Because men and women are different. They are equal, they are complementary, but they are different.

Should I then claim protection from seeing female genitals because they are different from mine? No one seems concerned to offer it.

 

[Chesterton]

Should I then claim protection from seeing female genitals because they are different from mine? No one seems concerned to offer it.

You're correct, no one is concerned to offer it for the reason I stated: we're different. But you can seek protection if you want, that's up to you.