Iran Launches Attack on Israel

[durangodawood]

We’ll see. How do you know it’s not?

I dont know its not. How would I know that? I was just wondering where you get your insight that its pretty much wrapped up? I could be..... or perhaps not.

I could see this Isr govt taking the current "opportunity" to justify some attack or other on Irans offensive potential. Maybe something theyve been wanting to do for a while but lacked a good pretext for.

 

[BPPLEE]

I dont know its not. How would I know that? I was just wondering where you get your insight that its pretty much wrapped up? I could be..... or perhaps not.

I could see this Isr govt taking the current "opportunity" to justify some attack or other on Irans offensive potential. Maybe something theyve been wanting to do for a while but lacked a good pretext for.

They will be doing it without the help of the US if they do, according to the president

 

[Pommer]

wanting to have a ceasefire in Gaza before Israel completely destroys Hamas, allowing them to regroup and continue terror

Every, single Hamas fighter has to be eliminated before a cease-fire? Good luck.

wanting Israel to not retaliate for last night and said the US will not support an Israeli action to retaliate against Iran

Iran’s tit-for-tat operation was widely known and a necessary face-saving action; normal. Israel upping the ante would have destabilized the situation.

Taking the Houthis and IRGC off the terrorist group list

The Houthis are back on it, the carrot didn’t work, but “more stick” isn’t always the answer.

trying to appease the Iranians and get back into a deal with them while they keep attacking Al-Assad airbase in Iraq. If their "diplomacy" is drones and missiles we need to walk away from negotiating with them. Continuing to try to negotiate just shows weak leadership.

The alternative of attacking them really isn’t an good option, either. Too bad international politics is so complicated!

Unfreezing $5 billion in assets is part of what paid for October 7th.
Instead of aggressively going after the Houthis on the ground when they hijacked the red sea and suez canal, affecting trade for the entire world, they've been content to just spend millions of dollars per missile shooting down drones that cost maybe a couple thousand dollars for the Houthis, and was content to just keep defensively shooting missiles down rather than bringing down the thunder on the Houthis and preventing future attacks.

We currently only fund our military to the tune of 3/4 of a $Trillion, this sounds even more expensive.

That's weakness
and it's in large part because the Democrat party has been hijacked by Muslims and people who see Muslims as oppressed victims and thus morally virtuous (a byproduct of woke ideology that those without power are virtuous and those with power are oppressors and are inherently corrupt), so Biden faces pressure within the demographics he wants voting for him in November.

Your “truths“ are open to interpretation, please enjoy voting for whom you think would do things better.

so he has to kowtow and be lukewarm to Israel and do minimal defensive moves only instead of doing what ought to be done and cratering them.

Why must the US be enthralled to Israel?

 

[durangodawood]

They will be doing it without the help of the US if they do, according to the president

Israel can do plenty of damage on their own. But if Iran responds again, America will probably help defend Israel

 

[BPPLEE]

Israel can do plenty of damage on their own. But if Iran responds again, America will probably help defend Israel

If Iran responds again that changes everything

 

[durangodawood]

If Iran responds again that changes everything

I mean after the next Israeli action against Israel. If that happens

Oops I mean against Iran.

 

[BPPLEE]

I mean after the next Israeli action against Israel. If that happens

I think you need to edit that post

 

[Pommer]

I think you need to edit that post

And lose that scathing sarcasm?

 

[rjs330]

At this point I don't think Israel wants a war with Iran. They need to finish the one they are in now. The Israeli government would be in danger of losing the people's support at this point. Now if Hezbollah starts a war with Israel all bets are off on what Israel will do. But right now there are enough Arabic countries who dont like Iran that won't tolerate a large scale Iranian attack on Israel. Israel needs to focus closer to home and finish off Hamas. If anything else starts I think it will actually come form Hezbollah. All with Iranian support of course.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

I predict it ends here.

Iran funded the Oct. 7 attack, got slapped across the face by Israel for it, and now it's back to Israel protecting itself against immediate threats.

Done deal.

Iran, unlike Hamas, is a state actor, and a fairly good sized one at that. Iran has the resources to pull off something that will make October 7 look like a stroll in the park...

 

[rjs330]

Actually it's the very definition of a war crime by international law, which is called genocide. Do you actually bother to Google anything or just say what you feel must be right without any research?

I continue to find this kind of thinking astounding. Right or wrong that is the purpose of a military. It may be a war crime to use your military to attack another country, but it's still the militaries purpose. It purpose is to kill people and break things until your enemy surrenders. You can use it for offense or defense or sometimes defense then offense or whatever. That's what a military is for.

As I said right or wrong. I'm not saying by modern standards there isn't a war crime or a violation of international law. But I am saying that it is correct that the militaries purpose is to kill people and break things. Sometimes it's used to commit genocide but that's also killing people.

 

[Slibhin]

I continue to find this kind of thinking astounding. Right or wrong that is the purpose of a military. It may be a war crime to use your military to attack another country, but it's still the militaries purpose. It purpose is to kill people and break things until your enemy surrenders. You can use it for offense or defense or sometimes defense then offense or whatever. That's what a military is for.

As I said right or wrong. I'm not saying by modern standards there isn't a war crime or a violation of international law. But I am saying that it is correct that the militaries purpose is to kill people and break things. Sometimes it's used to commit genocide but that's also killing people.

"Hey sometimes people commit genocide, it's war n'stuff". Imagine being that shoulder shruggy about mass murder and genocide while claiming to worship HaShem.

The problem is American evangelical Christians, who seem to have an unquenchable thirst for Muslim and Jewish blood in my opinion, don't seem to understand that the rules of war which we all agreed to abide by protects all of us. You can't try to wipe people out, you can't purposely target civilians, can't attack schools and hospitals and so on. It doesn't matter who started it. Israel under Netanyahu is ratcheting up the middle east for a huge war we'll all be sucked into simply to preserve his own butt. He attacked Iran which of course would require a retaliation while committing genocide in Gaza. Since the United States is addicted to aipac and zionist lobby money, have no doubt Biden will get you involved in an armed conflict.

 

[rjs330]

Hey sometimes people commit genocide, it's war n'stuff". Imagine being that shoulder shruggy about mass murder and genocide while claiming to worship HaShem.

I find it interesting simply stating a fact is somehow looked at being shoulder shruggy. Just curious as to why you ignored the part where I said right or wrong. If a militaries purpose was not to kill people or break things then we wouldn't even be talking about genocide.

The problem is American evangelical Christians, who seem to have an unquenchable thirst for Muslim and Jewish blood in my opinion, don't seem to understand that the rules of war which we all agreed to abide by protects all of us. You can't try to wipe people out, you can't purposely target civilians, can't attack schools and hospitals and so on. It doesn't matter who started it. Israel under Netanyahu is ratcheting up the middle east for a huge war we'll all be sucked into simply to preserve his own butt. He attacked Iran which of course would require a retaliation while committing genocide in Gaza. Since the United States is addicted to aipac and zionist lobby money, have no doubt Biden will get you involved in an armed conflict.

You are barking up the wrong tree. We have rules of war because of the militaries purpose. If there weren't any the military would just kill everyone and break everything. Because that's it's purpose. We have rules to reign them in.

I think we'd all agree that wiping people out completely is bad. And you can target hospitals and schools if they harbor the enemy. Because according to the rules they aren't supposed to be there. Nobody is committing genocide I Gaza. If they wanted to do that they could have done it months ago.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Iran, unlike Hamas, is a state actor, and a fairly good sized one at that. Iran has the resources to pull off something that will make October 7 look like a stroll in the park...

In the end, Israel has hundreds of nukes. Iran has zero. And they have outdated, broke down equipment.

Israel wins.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

In the end, Israel has hundreds of nukes. Iran has zero. And they have outdated, broke down equipment.

Israel wins.

Right .

 

[Lost4words]

I cant see Israel standing back and not retaliating for the attack.

 

[RileyG]

I can’t say I’m surprised. Praying for peace throughout the Middle East.

 

[Slibhin]

I find it interesting simply stating a fact is somehow looked at being shoulder shruggy. Just curious as to why you ignored the part where I said right or wrong. If a militaries purpose was not to kill people or break things then we wouldn't even be talking about genocide.

You are barking up the wrong tree. We have rules of war because of the militaries purpose. If there weren't any the military would just kill everyone and break everything. Because that's it's purpose. We have rules to reign them in.

I think we'd all agree that wiping people out completely is bad. And you can target hospitals and schools if they harbor the enemy. Because according to the rules they aren't supposed to be there. Nobody is committing genocide I Gaza. If they wanted to do that they could have done it months ago.

I'm sure the military community appreciates you describing them as if they are mindless animals who need to be controlled, you must never have served or known anyone who has.

You obviously have never read up on the international criminal court or the Geneva convention, because it is illegal to target hospitals or civilians for any reason. You can't just claim an enemy might be there and blow it away.

Lastly the ICC and the ICJ has ruled the Israel is likely committing genocide. I will listen to the top lawyers with expertise in this issue and not the opinions of zionist bloggers and forum posters.

 

[Vanellus]

Iran gave plenty of warning about their attack on Israel and I'm sure they know about Iron Dome and western capabilities of intercepting missiles. The one person injured was apparently a Bedouin girl in an unrecognised village. The surprise Israeli attack on the Iranian embassy compound in Syria killed 13 people. The damage in Israel seems to be have been restricted to military targets.

What are the motivations here? Did Israel want to provoke a response so that the flow of weapons from the west will continue so they can continue killing more Palestinians? Was Iran putting on a show for its own population and firing a warning shot across Israel's bows?
My fear is that if there is a continuation of missiles etc being lobbed between Israel and Iran then there is the danger of a large number of people who are not protected by an Iron Dome could be killed e.g. in Jordan or Iraq.

A 7-Year-Old Girl Is the Lone Serious Casualty of Iran’s Barrage

There are roughly 300,000 Arab Bedouins in the Negev desert. About a quarter of them live in villages that are not recognized by Israeli officials. Without state recognition, those communities have long suffered from a lack of planning and basic services like running water, sewers and electricity. And few have access to bomb shelters, despite repeated requests to the state.

 

[Valletta]

Iran is working on their delivery system for a nuclear weapon to launch against Israel. A large part of the discussion in Israel is undoubtedly about what nuclear facilities should be destroyed in the response.