Biden proclaimed the first instance of "Transgender Visibility Day" to occur onEaster Day.

[Servus]

You get it even when you don't want to.

In a few posts you have been telling us that you can rope 'n' ride and drive trucks just like men. Goshdarn, there ain't nothing you cain't do that they can! But you are mentally comparing yourself to men. If there was no difference then you wouldn't have anything to compare yourself against. But the world is obviously, patently, undoubtedly divided into male and female (with a tiny proportion of exceptions). As regards sex. But not as regards gender.

It's been explained to you what the difference is. And I honestly don't care if you either don't understand it or refuse to except it. But any discussion that you have on transgender will be something of a waste of time if you refuse to acknowledge gender actually exists.

That said, if you change the word sex to gender at the end of your quote above then it will all fall into place.

Sure gender and sex are sperate, which is why transgender people try to change their sex. Makes perfect sense.

 

[Servus]

Whether you agree with it or not is something I'm not interested in. But I'd like you acknowledge that it is the definition. And acknowledge that discussing gender when you disagree with basic definition of the very word is a complete waste of your time.

No it's not, you just don't like it.

 

[Bradskii]

Sure gender and sex are sperate, which is why transgender people change their sex. Makes perfect sense.

So if a guy transgenders to a woman then according to you he has changed his sex to a woman. You literally just said that.

Looks like you know what changing rooms they'll be using and you have no problem.

 

[Bradskii]

No it's not, you just don't like it.

I honestly couldn't care what you think. Or anyone else. I've told you what I care about.

 

[QvQ]

So gender isn't real. But hey, we can cure problems associated with it by the use of drugs and surgery. If that isn't a classic example of cognitive dissonance then I don't know what is.

The therapies aren't curing it.
You are neglecting the fact that the reason the therapies don't wok is because it was a bogus medical condition in the first place.
Of course the therapies do more harm than good if the condition is mental without any physical basis at all.

Meanwhile

Sure gender and sex are sperate, which is why transgender people change their sex. Makes perfect sense.

If gender and sex are different, why don't transgender people change their self selected Gender?
Much easier and not quite so hard on the body as changing their sex.

 

[Servus]

Spare me your claims of being the arbiter of Godly conduct. The audacity, sir. The solutions the medical community have come up with helps them. You would harm them based on nothing more then the idea that you somehow have such a great understanding of the will of an infinite being that it should override empirical evidence? I thought hubris was a sin?

He's right though, they are mocking God. They are rebelling against God. They are rejecting God. And if they continue to do so they will end up in Hell. We don't have to shrink away from telling the truth here. People need to put aside their petty selfish wants and surrender themselves to the will of God by accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and putting His will ahead of their own.

 

[Servus]

I honestly couldn't care what you think. Or anyone else. I've told you what I care about.

You get far too apoplectic over what people say to claim apathy.

 

[Bradskii]

The therapies aren't curing it.

If you link to articles that you want us to think support your position and they very cleary suggest procedures that contradict your position then that is a fail. You simply contradict your own argument. In fact, you won't be able to find any medical article that says 'do nothing because nothing works'. They will all offer opinions on what the procedures should be, when they should be enacted and how effective they are.

Any scientific article or medical paper to which you link is an acceptance by you that there is a problem between the dichotomy of biological sex and gender that needs to be addressed.

If gender and sex are different, why don't transgender people change their self selected Gender?
Much easier and not quite so hard on the body as changing their sex.

Your posts have been somewhat confusing up to this point. It happens a lot. People swing between saying that gender doesn't exist to complaints about how the problem between sex and gender are addressed (as we've just seen) to saying that sex and gender are the same thing...and now we have you asking why people don't change their gender to match their sex. Obviously accepting that they are different.

In short, I have no idea idea what you position actually is. So I'm going to ask you to clarify it.

Do you accept that one's gender is different to one's biological sex? And do you accept that some people consider their gender not to align with their sex?

That will enable me to answer your question.

 

[Servus]

So if a guy transgenders to a woman then according to you he has changed his sex to a woman. You literally just said that.

I corrected it to: Sure gender and sex are sperate, which is why transgender people try to change their sex. Makes perfect sense.

Because we both no there's no such thing as an actual sex change.

Looks like you know what changing rooms they'll be using and you have no problem.

Why would I have a problem? You still haven't figured out the difference between having a problem and pointing out a problem that exists?

 

[RileyG]

Whether you agree with it or not is something I'm not interested in. But I'd like you acknowledge that it is the definition. And acknowledge that discussing gender when you disagree with basic definition of the very word is a complete waste of your time.

Gender is a reality, not a feeling. I will not comment on that matter further.

 

[RileyG]

Spare me your claims of being the arbiter of Godly conduct. The audacity, sir. The solutions the medical community have come up with helps them. You would harm them based on nothing more then the idea that you somehow have such a great understanding of the will of an infinite being that it should override empirical evidence? I thought hubris was a sin?

There is no hubris. God made them male or female. For them to claim otherwise is saying God made a mistake, which he did not.

Again, I do not accept the transgendered lifestyle.

 

[Servus]

Your posts have been somewhat confusing up to this point. It happens a lot. People swing between saying that gender doesn't exist to complaints about how the problem between sex and gender are addressed (as we've just seen) to saying that sex and gender are the same thing...and now we have you asking why people don't change their gender to match their sex. Obviously accepting that they are different.

So have you. So does everyone who argues the matter. Because it's contradictory. Gender and sex are supposed to be separate, yet a good portion of being transgender means someone trying to change their sex.

 

[Bradskii]

He's right though, they are mocking God. They are rebelling against God. They are rejecting God. And if they continue to do so they will end up in Hell. We don't have to shrink away from telling the truth here. People need to put aside their petty selfish wants and surrender themselves to the will of God by accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and putting His will ahead of their own.

This is obviously a Christian forum. But you know that this is a sub forum that discusses, in this case, News and Current Events. So it's not just Christians. And it's generally accepted that 'God says so' isn't an argument that is going to carry any weight whatsoever with some of us who have no faith. And very little indeed with some others who do. For very good reasons indeed as have been explained to you.

The argument against transgenderism (it's not much of a discussion) has been generally secular up until recently. But there has been a change. Now quite a few posts are declaring that the poster knows what God wants and that's why it's wrong. And it justifies people like yourself making a stand.

Anyone who has been on religious forums for as long as I have, and some who have been on them a lot less, will recognise the forum concept of the last stand. It's a call to arms because those darn secularists (and some of their religious buddies) are still arguing. They keep making arguments. So what you need is a banner to rouse the troops. A banner that will read 'They are mocking God'.

 

[Bradskii]

You get far too apoplectic over what people say to claim apathy.

Don't forget this:

'Sure gender and sex are sperate, which is why transgender people change their sex.'

 

[QvQ]

Do you accept that one's gender is different to one's biological sex? And do you accept that some people consider their gender not to align with their sex?

Sex is biological. Gender is identical to Sex.
It is an artificial dichotomy because the differences in "gender roles" is superficially cultural such as man wear pants, women wear skirts.
Gender would not even be a "thing" except as a "performance' as one poster called it.
Changing the performance changes the perception perhaps of gender but it is a delusion or illusion.
As I said, men pretending to be women are unlikely to keep their skirts down and knees together which is a learned "performance."
Gender cannot be changed as men are probably incapable of doing that Marilyn Monroe stroll. It is the hinges in the hips even though it is a "gender, cultural performance."
Sex cannot be changed surgically or hormonally.

 

[Bradskii]

...being transgender means someone trying to change their sex.

Still confused after all this time.

Even the very name explains it and you still are confused.

 

[RileyG]

Sure gender and sex are sperate, which is why transgender people try to change their sex. Makes perfect sense.

They can’t. You can’t change your gender or sex. It’s biologically impossible. That’s a fact.

 

[RileyG]

Sex is biological. Gender is identical to Sex.
It is an artificial dichotomy because the differences in "gender roles" is superficially cultural such as man wear pants, women wear skirts.
Gender cannot be changed except as a delusion or illusion simply by changing clothes.
Sex cannot be changed surgically or hormonally.

You’re 100% right. A man doesn’t know what it’s like to be a woman or vice versa. They must accept their biology and MOVE ON.

 

[RileyG]

Biden should be ashamed. The only thing on Easter he should proclaim is Christ is risen! The fact he made this about the transgendered lifestyle is beyond embarrassing.

 

[Servus]

This is obviously a Christian forum. But you know that this is a sub forum that discusses, in this case, News and Current Events. So it's not just Christians. And it's generally accepted that 'God says so' isn't an argument that is going to carry any weight whatsoever with some of us who have no faith. And very little indeed with some others who do. For very good reasons indeed as have been explained to you.

The conditions laid out by the ungodly carries little weight here.

The argument against transgenderism (it's not much of a discussion) has been generally secular up until recently. But there has been a change. Now quite a few posts are declaring that the poster knows what God wants and that's why it's wrong. And it justifies people like yourself making a stand.

It's our duty to proclaim the will of God. The ungodly of course will object to it. But those objections don't serve as a deterrent.

Anyone who has been on religious forums for as long as I have, and some who have been on them a lot less, will recognise the forum concept of the last stand. It's a call to arms because those darn secularists (and some of their religious buddies) are still arguing. They keep making arguments. So what you need is a banner to rouse the troops. A banner that will read 'They are mocking God'.

Mocking God, rebelling against God, rejecting God, enemies of God, servants of Satan.