the myth of flat earth debunked again

[Apple Sky]

No, it isn't.
The Bible is not a science textbook.

The Bible is everything, it is the past, the future & the present.

 

[Strong in Him]

The Bible is everything, it is the past, the future & the present.

Obviously not.
It doesn't mention cars, planes, computers, tvs, YouTube or Facebook. It doesn't address many of the issues that we face today; nuclear wars, IVF, organ transplants etc etc.
It reveals God, is about God and by God.
Humans are made in God's image - meaning that we have the ability to create, love, discover, show kindness and so on, just as God does. God has given us the ability to discover more about his world. The Bible does not give the answers to these questions; it has all we need to know God, have salvation and eternal life, know God's will etc etc.

 

[Apple Sky]

Obviously not.
It doesn't mention cars, planes, computers, tvs, YouTube or Facebook. It doesn't address many of the issues that we face today; nuclear wars, IVF, organ transplants etc etc.
It reveals God, is about God and by God.
Humans are made in God's image - meaning that we have the ability to create, love, discover, show kindness and so on, just as God does. God has given us the ability to discover more about his world. The Bible does not give the answers to these questions; it has all we need to know God, have salvation and eternal life, know God's will etc etc.

Okay, maybe not the present as the present is a gift to be opened, but the past & the future it certainly does.

 

[Strong in Him]

Okay, maybe not the present as the present is a gift to be opened, but the past & the future it certainly does.

You miss my point.
If the Bible told us everything about the future, it would have spoken about these things. There are many issues today on which we need guidance, and the Bible doesn't teach them - because that's not its purpose and those things didn't exist anyway.

It doesn't even teach that the earth is flat.

 

[Apple Sky]

You miss my point.
If the Bible told us everything about the future, it would have spoken about these things. There are many issues today on which we need guidance, and the Bible doesn't teach them - because that's not its purpose and those things didn't exist anyway.

It does, it teaches us about Revelation for one.

 

[Strong in Him]

It does, it teaches us about Revelation for one.

I didn't say that the Bible doesn't teach us about the future at all, I said that it doesn't address things like future technology, or other things which didn't exist back then.
No one said "in a few centuries time you will have the technology to make a test tube baby - don't."
Paul did not say "there should be order in church, and by that I mean that you should always turn your mobile phones off."
Neither does it say, "well the earth is this shape, we think, but we don't know enough about it. In a few centuries time people will have discovered things that can tell us a bit more."

And the Bible doesn't teach about Revelation; it records a Revelation that was given to John. If it taught us what Revelation meant, things would be a whole lot easier and all this silly speculation about Jesus' return being on a certain date/day, would end.

 

[Apple Sky]

I didn't say that the Bible doesn't teach us about the future at all, I said that it doesn't address things like future technology, or other things which didn't exist back then.
No one said "in a few centuries time you will have the technology to make a test tube baby - don't."
Paul did not say "there should be order in church, and by that I mean that you should always turn your mobile phones off."
Neither does it say, "well the earth is this shape, we think, but we don't know enough about it. In a few centuries time people will have discovered things that can tell us a bit more."

Ecclesiastes 1:9
All things are wearisome, more than one can describe; the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear content with hearing. What has been will be again, and what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun. Is there a case where one can say, “Look, this is new”? It has already existed in the ages before us.

 

[Strong in Him]

Ecclesiastes 1:9
All things are wearisome, more than one can describe; the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear content with hearing. What has been will be again, and what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun. Is there a case where one can say, “Look, this is new”? It has already existed in the ages before us.

There are plenty of cases where one can say "Look, this is new".
Technology, advances in medicine and science, X rays, scans etc. New archaeological discoveries have been made, regarding places mention in the Bible. There have been new translations made, due to new discoveries.
God said, through Isaiah; "see, I am doing a new thing." OT folk believed that if anyone looked at God they would die - they would never have thought that God himself could be born as a human being and people would see, and touch, him. Once, God lived in the Temple; now WE are Temples of the Holy Spirit.
And so on.

 

[Apple Sky]

There are plenty of cases where one can say "Look, this is new".
Technology, advances in medicine and science, X rays, scans etc. New archaeological discoveries have been made, regarding places mention in the Bible. There have been new translations made, due to new discoveries.

Luke 8:17
For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.

And this includes the shape of the earth also.

 

[Strong in Him]

Luke 8:17
For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.

And this includes the shape of the earth also.

And if it WAS proved to be flat after all, it would make absolutely no difference to anyone.
No one will be dancing around in heaven saying "I told you so". No one will be ashamed because they had believed that the earth, which our LORD created, was round, and it was shown to be flat. Nobody will be in hell because of the shape of the earth.
There is no sin in heaven - therefore no boasting or gloating; no one will be made to feel stupid, and no one will be counted as extra holy because they believed the planet was a certain shape.
When we are in heaven worshipping the Lord, shouting "Holy, Holy, Holy" and serving him, I don't think anyone is going to care two hoots what shape our old, broken planet was. If they do, then they've got problems to be honest.

 

[Apple Sky]

And if it WAS proved to be flat after all, it would make absolutely no difference to anyone.

Wrong, it would make a great difference to whole world & to everyone who is alive.

Teachers- Schools/ Universities etc
Scientist's - Science books/ Physics
All who work for NASA & the likes of
Astrologist's
NASA's budget
Deceivers/leaders/liars
Historians
Cartographer's etc, etc, etc.


As for the masses most would begin to take the Bible literally & come to the Lord by the droves & billions and billions would become saved by the grace of our Lord 'Jesus Christ'.

You can see now, as to why I am a flat earther.

 

[prodromos]

Wrong, it would make a great difference to whole world & to everyone who is alive.

Most would just go on with their lives

Teachers- Schools/ Universities etc
Scientist's - Science books/ Physics
All who work for NASA & the likes of
Astrologist's

Astrologists? People who claim to know things about you based on your star sign? I don't see how they would be affected at all.

NASA's budget
Deceivers/leaders/liars

Says a lot about you how you group things.

Historians
Cartographer's etc, etc, etc.

I guess we will have to get rid of all those maps we've been using to accurately navigate the globe

As for the masses most would begin to take the Bible literally & come to the Lord by the droves & billions and billions would become saved by the grace of our Lord 'Jesus Christ'.

Highly unlikely. The shape of the earth plays almost no role in people's decision to follow Christ

You can see now, as to why I am a flat earther.

Yes, you suffer from delusions.

 

[FreeinChrist]

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[Apple Sky]

Most would just go on with their lives

Except for teachers, cartographers, scientists, astro-nots, oh and lets not forget all the people who work for these space agencies such as NASA.

 

[prodromos]

Except for teachers, cartographers, scientists, astro-nots, oh and lets not forget all the people who work for these space agencies such as NASA.

Just a follow-up on your claim that flat earth belief leads to Christ.

• Nathan Oakley
• Dave Murphy
• Mark Sargent
• Darryle Marble
• Eric (the idiot) Dubay

 

[Apple Sky]

 

[Apple Sky]

Just a follow-up on your claim that flat earth belief leads to Christ.

• Nathan Oakley
• Dave Murphy
• Mark Sargent
• Darryle Marble
• Eric (the idiot) Dubay

Not to mention the masses who have been saved by believing the earth is flat.

 

[prodromos]

You've posted one of his sermons before which turned out to be completely wrong.

 

[prodromos]

Not to mention the masses who have been saved by believing the earth is flat.

None of the people I listed above are Christians, but they are all avid flat earth believers.

No one has been saved by believing in a particular shape of the earth, and especially not 'masses'. Salvation only comes through faith in Jesus Christ.
I doubt the number of converts who came to faith in Christ through such a misguided cosmology would be more than double digits worldwide. If you have evidence to the contrary then feel free to share it.

 

[prodromos]

What do the inner circle of Adventists, mormons and catholics share?

Lets face it. If you believe in our current universe and space model, traditional christianity needs to be signifcantly readjusted to survive the "space age".

While the picture of the Heavens among many christians has never quite been properly defined and remaineth abstract in the minds of many,

Other habitable planets, and solar systems, unfallen worlds and paradises, all filled with countless intelligent beings acrossed vast galaxies
. Earth is merely a rebellious planet, in need of redemption. This is the grandeur deception finale.

Considering the validity of Valiant Thor, a space alien from Venus who claims Christ, a Gnostic invention, or someone else? - Gospel Vision

Frank Stranges tells us about the mysterious figure, Valiant Thor, his origins, his biology, and that he bears the name of Christ. Is there any weight to what Stranges is saying?

gospel.vision

They will say, the world is not "ready" for such a revelation, that we "are not alone".

But when the aliens come, who, infact will look remarkebly like humans, all old religions will go away, and the questions people always longed for, answered.
New texts will be presented, that provide the answer to all religious strive, and humanity will go into a "new golden age"

All of this is the final deception.

They will say Jesus Christ exists, but in like manner Buddha, and Krishna.

Notice how in this story this "alien" does NOT testify Jesus as Lord.
He is presented merely as an enlightened "wonder" of ages, in the league of other religious figures.

If you believe in the vast planetary universe model you will have no defense against the deception that is coming. Christianity will completely change and adapt itself to this "new reality" when the "aliens" reveal themselves.

People have slowly been indoctrinated for centuries to accept this sci-fi reality. After WW2 things accelerated.
This is all setting the stage for the finale, the revelation "we are not alone".

This is when we will see the great apostasty.

Mormons, Adventists, Catholics and many other christian sects have all been primed for the final deception.

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/vatican-nativity-scene-scli-intl/index.html

Ellen G. White® Estate: Inhabited Planets in our Solar System

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What a load of hooey.
There are no alien races populating other planets. There isn't even bacteria. All the other planets, stars and galaxies are there to glorify our infinite God. An oversized 'snow globe' does not inspire glory.