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The return of Christ in Sept of 2040

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But it's still about the signs that Christ laid out. The disciples asks him, when and what shall be thy sign and he lays it all out.

Matthew 24:3 "And as He sat upon the mount of Olives the disciples came unto Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when shall these things be and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?"

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Matthew 24:33 "So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors."


When all of these things he lays out comes to pass we can know it's at the door.

It isn't at the door per the verses in Matthew 24 but the summer is nigh. Obviously, if I'm saying the Coming is in 2040 then it is not at the door but that is still a short time away. But as you stated, you should be READY always.

Jesus, before He was apprehended in the Garden, had told His disciples when He would be betrayed and yet even knowing the time, Jesus continually warned his disciples to watch and yet they couldn't resist the desire to slumber. He knew the betrayer would come with those that would take Himself away from His disciples. That was His warning to them. He was warning them to watch for they were going to take Him away from Them. And this is what we should be watching for today. They are trying to take Him away from His Disciples today. They do this by casting Truth to the ground and shutting mouths and obfuscating the message, by inserting secular objectives into Christian packaging. This is happening now. Even the very idea that we are being forbidden of preaching the day and hour is a testament to this.
 
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It isn't at the doors per the verses in Matthew 24 but the summer is nigh. Obviously, if I'm saying the Coming is in 2040 then it is not at the doors but that is still a short time away. But as you stated, you should be READY always.
Yes because one could very easily die and stand before Jesus way before 2040. That's the problem with dating Christ's return, because folks will figure they don't have to get ready to meet Christ until 2039. When instead Christ might tell them "You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you.". People shouldn't go around with the idea they have 15 years before they should start getting serious.
 
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Yes because one could very easily die and stand before Jesus way before 2040. That's the problem with dating Christ's return, because folks will figure they don't have to get ready to meet Christ until 2039. When instead Christ might tell them "You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you.". People shouldn't go around with the idea they have 15 years before they should start getting serious.

I don't think your are testing your own logic here. Consider Matthew 24:

Mat_24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

So if Jesus said "end was not yet" would you say that is the same thing as saying the date was in the future?

I tell you that that forbidding date setting is exactly what the devil wants. However, it is correct that we must always be READY for we will be judged not for just what we do tomorrow but for we did yesterday and today.
 
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So are you willing to sign a legal document transferring all your possessions, property, etc. over to me at that date?

If that date were to pass such that this world exists afterwards, it would be my children getting the possessions, property, etc. They don't believe either (at least for now).
 
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I don't think your are testing your own logic here. Consider Matthew 24:

Mat_24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

So if Jesus said "end was not yet" would you say that is the same thing as saying the date was in the future?

I tell you that that forbidding date setting is exactly what the devil wants.
So does that mean God want's there to be the zillions of dates hundreds of people have come up with? I mean when it comes to being a date setter, if you were told to take a number and stand in line with all the rest, the number on your ticket would be something like 274637892.
However, it is correct that we must always be READY for we will be judged not for just what we do tomorrow but for we did yesterday and today.
That's right because your meeting with Jesus could came at any moment. In my case considering my age and my family history, it's likely that I'll be long gone before 2040.
 
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I had approval by Hammster that date setting was allowed only in this forum.
That may be the case.
It doesn't alter the fact that every date that has been set over the last 2000 years has been wrong. And like I said, 2040 is sufficiently far away that no one will a) remember, b) care c) be able to hold you to account if you are wrong.

Jesus could return in 5 minutes, tomorrow, in 3 years or return for you, in death, much sooner. The message of the NT is "Be ready. Live your life as though expecting him to return at any moment". One of the churches Paul wrote to went to the other extreme "Jesus might return soon; there's no point in doing any work." That attitude was wrong too - and 2 millennia later, we're still here.
 
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So does that mean God want's there to be the zillions of dates hundreds of people have come up with? I mean when it comes to being a date setter, if you were told to take a number and stand in line with all the rest, the number on your ticket would be something like 274637892.

That's right because your meeting with Jesus could came at any moment. In my case considering my age and my family history, it's likely that I'll be long gone before 2040.

Let's use that logic. Do you think God wants so many varied doctrines on how to practice one's faith? But we have what appears as countless ways. Does that mean we shouldn't practice our Faith in God because so many ways are wrong or appear wrong?
 
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I tell you that that forbidding date setting is exactly what the devil wants.
No it isn't.
Satan is more than happy for Christians to focus on date setting, doing calculations from Daniel, arguing about Revelation or focussing on one verse from one of the Gospels. Anything to direct our time, and energy, away from the task of proclaiming Jesus and the cross.

I would suggest that is one of the reasons why the church in the west is in such a mess - Satan keeps us focussed on differences, petty arguments, the "best" way to do things, and so on. If we all were to say "enough!", join together and go around proclaiming Jesus, the Gospel and power of the cross, as the early church did, the world wouldn't know what had hit it.
 
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So also, with this timeline, I was able to accurately converge 3 important pieces to the destruction of Jerusalem in 530 BC. I was able to see that the first course was serving in the first week of the 5th month. I could also see that it was a Sabbatical year and that this was at the end of the 390 years of the reign of the kings of Judah.

Interestingly, the first course is serving in the 2nd week of the 5th month during the destruction of the 2nd Temple. And the 2nd temple was not destroyed in a sabbatical year or a Jubilee year as some have suggested.
 
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Let's use that logic. Do you think God wants so many varied doctrines on how to practice one's faith? But we have what appears as countless ways. Does that mean we shouldn't practice our Faith in God because so many ways are wrong or appear wrong?
Paul made it clear that variations in how one practices their faith is acceptable in Romans 14:5, so that means the variations in which people practice their faith doesn't really matter to God. Do you still want to apply that principle to date setting?
 
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Paul made it clear that variations in how one practices their faith is acceptable in Romans 14:5, so that means the variations in which people practice their faith doesn't really matter to God. Do you still want to apply that principle to date setting?
Then let's do this. Prove to me from the Bible that we cannot know the day or the hour of the 2nd Coming of Christ. You can't because it doesn't say it.
 
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So also, with this timeline, I was able to accurately converge 3 important pieces to the destruction of Jerusalem in 530 BC. I was able to see that the first course was serving in the first week of the 5th month. I could also see that it was a Sabbatical year and that this was at the end of the 390 years of the reign of the kings of Judah.

Interestingly, the first course is serving in the 2nd week of the 5th month during the destruction of the 2nd Temple. And the 2nd temple was not destroyed in a sabbatical year or a Jubilee year as some have suggested.

Was this you on CF in 2017?


And you here?:


Did you write this book?:


Some others:


https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/16dcjlm

 
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Then let's do this. Prove to me from the Bible that we cannot know the day or the hour of the 2nd Coming of Christ. You can't because it doesn't say it.
What I'm saying is that you're the umpteenth person who's set a date. Date setting is so prolific, I wouldn't be surprised if every single day between 1840 and 2040 has been given as the date. That If I had a dollar for every date that's been set for the return of Christ, I'd have a ton of cash. Even just 2040 dates alone seem to be a dime a dozen.

 
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What I'm saying is that you're the umpteenth person who's set a date. Date setting is so prolific, I wouldn't be surprised if every single day between 1840 and 2040 has been given as the date. That If I had a dollar for every date that's been set for the return of Christ, I'd have a ton of cash. Even just 2040 dates alone seem to be a dime a dozen.
But what if the Father reveals the date to someone, do you think they should tell others the date? Don't they have an obligation?
 
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Was this you on CF in 2017?


And you here?:


Did you write this book?:


Some others:


https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/16dcjlm

The posts are from me but the book and the last video are not from me. I'm going to check out those links though.
 
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Was this you on CF in 2017?


And you here?:


Did you write this book?:


Some others:


https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/16dcjlm


I checked out both of those links. Regarding the book. I wouldn't sell this information. I'm against Prophecy for Profits. As for the second link, I may have seen that link before or something similar but that person is saying that Jesus must return BY 2040. I'm saying that He will not return until 2040 and WILL return in 2040.
 
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But what if the Father reveals the date to someone, do you think they should tell others the date? Don't they have an obligation?
The problem with that is a zillion people have thought they have that oblation, so finding the right one is like finding a needle in a haystack.

And what about all the different formulas for just coming up with 2040? Which one of those is one to choose from?

Seems to me considering all that the total confusion and uncertainty generated by hundreds of date setters, date setting is probably Devil's playground.
 
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Then let's do this. Prove to me from the Bible that we cannot know the day or the hour of the 2nd Coming of Christ. You can't because it doesn't say it.
It does say that we don't know it.

Would Jesus have wasted his time/breath telling people to be ready if he could have just said "you guys won't have to think about it in your lifetimes - neither will your children, grandchildren or great, great, great grandchildren."
Or "I am saying his for those who will live after 2040"? Or even, "pray hard and them do some sums from the OT and you'll get it"?

He said "no one knows the day nor hour" for a reason.
We are not meant to know; only to be faithful and to be ready.
 
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The posts are from me but the book and the last video are not from me. I'm going to check out those links though.
Well that poster was banned and once you're banned, you're not allowed to come back, especially with the same shtick that was locked.
 
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