Of course you know about the religious right...

[Larniavc]

"prevent expressions of anything except cis-gendered heterosexuality".

While secretly engaging in exactly that kind of behaviour.

 

[RileyG]

Oh, they still love their neighbours. They just express that love by trying to prevent their neighbours from doing the things they think are harmful for their neighbours.

They say "pro-life", but mean "prevent abortions". They say "pro-family", but mean "prevent expressions of anything except cis-gendered heterosexuality".

What wrong with traditional Christian values and wanting to preserve life?

 

[RileyG]

I personally think "cis-gendered" is a slur used for men and women who aren't confused about their own biology.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Yeah, I'm aware of the Christian Left, they've been around for a while.

They're, for all intents and purposes, playing the same sort of game the Religious Right is playing.

Which is "Look at these half dozen specific verses we found, see how they line up with Party XYZ's platform? That means that voting for Party XYZ is the real Christian thing to do!" (The Christian Right will usually focus on the verses pertaining to verses supporting social conservatism, the Christian Left will usually focus on verses about condemning the rich and giving money to the poor)
--another "fun" symptom of when religion and politics get too intertwined, it starts to become a manipulation tool to get people to vote a certain way by threatening to metaphorically "take away their Christianity card" (in the eyes of their peers) if they vote "the other way"



The only minor distinction is that the proposals from the Christian Left can often be argued from a viewpoint that passes "The Lemon Test" (meaning that it can serve a compelling secular purpose), as to where many of the arguments of the Christian Right are purely religious in nature. In that sense, many of the proposals from the "Christian Left" viewpoint are often more politically durable (in that, they're more likely to pass muster if/when their proposals are challenged at a judicial level).

IE: Even if the reason for a person supporting universal healthcare is their biblical interpretation of helping the poor, a secular case can be made for providing universal healthcare. The same isn't true for things like arguments against same sex marriage, those are almost exclusively religion-based as there's really no argument against things like SSM that's both secular and compelling.

 

[DaisyDay]

I don't think he was very devout though.

I have no idea how he was in his private life.

 

[DaisyDay]

I personally think "cis-gendered" is a slur used for men and women who aren't confused about their own biology.

How is this a slur? Seriously, it is only used to distinguish non-transgendered people from transgendered people.

 

[RileyG]

How is this a slur? Seriously, it is only used to distinguish non-transgendered people from transgendered people.

Why call it cis at all?

 

[RileyG]

I have no idea how he was in his private life.

Agreed

 

[BCP1928]

How is this a slur? Seriously, it is only used to distinguish non-transgendered people from transgendered people.

It's a slur because it implies that cis-gendered people are not necessarily morally superior to transgendered.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Jesus Christ of Nazareth commanded us to help the poor. " Other people's money " notwithstanding. Helping the poor often requires utilizing resources,

“WE SHOULD NEVER GIVE MONEY ANYMORE WITHOUT THE HOPE OF A PAYBACK, OR WITHOUT“STRINGS” ATTACHED. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA SHOULD BE “STUPID” NO LONGER!” Trump posted Saturday on Truth Social.

 

[Margaret3110]

I personally think "cis-gendered" is a slur used for men and women who aren't confused about their own biology.

I don't think it's always intended as such but I have seen it used that way. Once I saw it used as a putdown to silence a gay man because he was "a cisgender male."

 

[Hazelelponi]

Which is what many people think of the Protestant worldview.

Well .. this is where two worldviews collide isn't it...

But that's okay. The reformation is back. Reformation 2024.

 

[DaisyDay]

Why call it cis at all?

To succinctly distinguish it from trans when the context would otherwise make it ambiguous.

Again, in what way is it a slur?

 

[DaisyDay]

Agreed

? You said you thought he was not very devout - did you mean publicly? That seems like a comment on his private life?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Why call it cis at all?

Because "cis" and "trans" are Latin prefixes that are opposite of each other. "Cis" means "on this side of" - i.e. "Cisalpine Gaul" (Gaul on this side of the alps"). "Trans" means "on the other side of" - i.e. "Transjordan" (the land on the other side of the Jordan River).

 

[RoBo1988]

“WE SHOULD NEVER GIVE MONEY ANYMORE WITHOUT THE HOPE OF A PAYBACK, OR WITHOUT“STRINGS” ATTACHED. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA SHOULD BE “STUPID” NO LONGER!” Trump posted Saturday on Truth Social.

Okay. Post that on a Trump thread. Thanks!

 

[RileyG]

Because "cis" and "trans" are Latin prefixes that are opposite of each other. "Cis" means "on this side of" - i.e. "Cisalpine Gaul" (Gaul on this side of the alps"). "Trans" means "on the other side of" - i.e. "Transjordan" (the land on the other side of the Jordan River).

I wasn’t aware of that.

 

[RoBo1988]

Well, if Davy wanted to ride from Dayton to Cincinnati then he'd pick a convenient trail. You could as well, unless you want to use route 75. How do you build that without taxes? Plus schools and hospitals. You have to pay for the police, fire brigade, teachers, nurses, congressmen and women, the armed services, bridges...the list goes on.

Don't want your taxes to go towards benefiting the community? The don't take advantage of all that the community provides for you via other people's taxes.

Schools -funded by state and local taxes
Hospitals - at one time a church concern, now are big time corporations
Police - state and local taxes
Congresspeople - vote themselves raises, print play money(federal)

Of all those things mentioned, the military, some interstate roads are a federal concern (see preamble to the constitution).

Sooo... I pay state local and federal income taxes; I just filled up my wife's minivan, (that she just paid registration fees for) paying road taxes (.19 per gallon fed, . 40 state). I paid my tolls.

I think it was John Adams who said that states are free to spend their revenue as they wish ( I'll look for the quote) but federal money is a different story. Lately, it has been a piggybank for the uniparty to spend on their pet projects.

 

[Bradskii]

Schools -funded by state and local taxes
Hospitals - at one time a church concern, now are big time corporations
Police - state and local taxes
Congresspeople - vote themselves raises, print play money(federal)

Of all those things mentioned, the military, some interstate roads are a federal concern (see preamble to the constitution).

Sooo... I pay state local and federal income taxes; I just filled up my wife's minivan, (that she just paid registration fees for) paying road taxes (.19 per gallon fed, . 40 state). I paid my tolls.

I think it was John Adams who said that states are free to spend their revenue as they wish ( I'll look for the quote) but federal money is a different story. Lately, it has been a piggybank for the uniparty to spend on their pet projects.

I guess you think that if you have an arbitrary border somewhere and you live within it then you have no problem with taxes. Local taxes? Fine. State taxes? Fine. Federal taxes....well, hold on there!

Local taxes are there to benefit the local community. State taxes to benefit the state. And federal?

 

[BCP1928]

I guess you think that if you have an arbitrary border somewhere and you live within it then you have no problem with taxes. Local taxes? Fine. State taxes? Fine. Federal taxes....well, hold on there!

Local taxes are there to benefit the local community. State taxes to benefit the state. And federal?

Federal taxes go to lazy poor people who won't work and don't live like I think they should.