Is there anyone else better than Biden or Trump for President?

[stevil]

Again that is obstruction, that’s what he should be charged with.

The law seems to give leniency when people comply and go tough when people resist.

 

[sprknjc]

If the candidates themselves would not do so much mudslinging on their TV ads closer election time and instead primarily focus honestly and not exaggerate the good they hope to do for the people. As I live in the outer reaches of the DMV (DC, MD, VA) TV market. only one recently have seen with majority of his TV advertising is positive is David Trone, a US Representative from Maryland. So refreshing, though I don't follow Maryland politics closely as I live in Virginia. If Jesus were a breathing human body on earth today running for President or political office, he would perfectly in his speaking follow Ephesians 4:29 . A tough verse for all of us to follow, but many candidates in their campaigning, especially in their ads, make only a weak effort at it.

 

[BPPLEE]

The law seems to give leniency when people comply and go tough when people resist.

Irrelevant. Trump should be treated like everyone else for having classified documents. Charge him with obstruction if he didn’t comply.
Or charge others as well. If you rob a bank then cooperate when you are questioned you still get charged.

 

[Fantine]

Imagine how much easier it would be for a mature man to be president if he didn't have to deal with:
A Republican House trying to impeach him for NO reason other than trying to make him look as bad as Trump who was impeached for numerous valid, proven reasons.
The outrageous lies, yes lies, not even exaggerations, in the right wing media.
The torment of seeing his son's crimes exaggerated by 1000% . His son needs to be accountable for the relatively minor crime he committed while addicted--but instead the right wing media has invented--with zero evidence--the story that he was funneling bribes from China to his father. That dog has no legs!
How could any sane person want to enter politics? Bearing all that while seeing an entire party bow and scrape and cover up the very real crimes of his predecessor instead of finding a candidate with character.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Honestly, it's odd he's still president. If he's so impaired he's unable to be held accountable for his crimes....the Democrats that are currently in office should be voting to have him removed already.

That will be a very closed door decision. You will hear about it in an early morning press conference at Walter Reed hospital when a previously unheard of doctor will release to the public a carefully limited statement (because of HIPAA rules but mostly to be brief and memorable). Biden will already have been removed from the White House in the night to stay a few days at Walter Reed. By noon Kamala will be sworn in as president. And that will be that.

Except apparently nobody wants Kamala. So this whole thing has to be pushed back to a day or two before the Democratic Party convention. The convention is August 19 - 24 in Chicago. (I remember their 1968 convention there. Wow!) I expect this particular drama to last until then. But then why was the prosecutor allowed to say now that the president was essentially unfit to stand trial? That sort of announcement should be only days removed from a fitness for duty exam. At least I would think.

 

[Desk trauma]

That will be a very closed door decision. You will hear about it in an early morning press conference at Walter Reed hospital when a previously unheard of doctor will release to the public a carefully limited statement (because of HIPAA rules but mostly to be brief and memorable). Biden will already have been removed from the White House in the night to stay a few days at Walter Reed. By noon Kamala will be sworn in as president. And that will be that.

Except apparently nobody wants Kamala. So this whole thing has to be pushed back to a day or two before the Democratic Party convention. The convention is August 19 - 24 in Chicago. (I remember their 1968 convention there. Wow!) I expect this particular drama to last until then. But then why was the prosecutor allowed to say now that the president was essentially unfit to stand trial? That sort of announcement should be only days removed from a fitness for duty exam. At least I would think.

Thought this was supposed to happen in the first few weeks of the term right after Hillary, or was it michelle, was made VP?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

... and why aren't they standing?

Prompted by the last two thread titles:

How would an 82 year old Biden govern as president?

Trump team argues assassination of rivals is covered by presidential immunity​

My own dad died recently, and he had Alzheimer's. Like Biden, he was also 81.

The reason I say this? I say this because I think the whole of the American people are sufficiently sensible and rational enough to recognize that neither Trump or Biden can be valid candidates for the next election, mainly due to obvious health and functionality reasons.

It's as obvious as the light of day.

 

[Desk trauma]

My own dad died recently, and he had alzheimer's. Like Biden, he was also 81.

The reason I say this? I say this because I think the whole of the American people are sufficiently sensible and rational enough to recognize that neither Trump or Biden can be valid candidates for the next election.

It's as obvious as the light of day.

Yet barring the demise of one or both, those are the two we got.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Yet barring the demise of one or both, those are the two we got.

And I'm not voting for either one them. It's not a matter of choosing the lessor of two degenerative geriatrics ...

Sure, I'm all for letting Biden finish his term in perfect peace. But let's not re-elect either him or even a Republican who has already demonstrated a not too dissimilar set of deficiencies in his leadership. It's time to move on to other, better candidates. Not necessarily younger ones, but more proficient leaders.

 

[Desk trauma]

And I'm not voting for either one them. It's not a matter of choosing the lessor of two degenerative geriatrics ...

Sure, I'm all for letting Biden finish his term in perfect peace. But let's not re-elect either him or even a Republican who has already demonstrated a not too dissimilar set of deficiencies in his leadership. It's time to move on to other, better candidates. Not necessarily younger ones, but more proficient leaders.

Sure is, but no point in deluding ourselves that it’s going to happen.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Sure is, but no point in deluding ourselves that it’s going to happen.

I'm not deluded. I know that if Biden and Trump are actually the only two options, then I'm not voting. Period.

Besides, all things considered with our governmental system, let's not pretend it's actually the President who runs the nation.

We all know that it's not. The President is the representative of the people, but it's not fully his (maybe her in the future) decision as to how the country is operating at any one given time.

I never could figure out why the vote for the President is given so much publicity in this country---it's not like we're actually voting directly for him (or maybe her) anyway.

But whatever. You all decide at the polls what mess you want for the next 4 years. It'll be a mess whether it's Democrat or Republican. Maybe by 2032 we'll finally get what we all need in this country.

 

[Goonie]

I'm not deluded. I know that if Biden and Trump are actually the only two options, then I'm not voting. Period.

Besides, all things considered with our governmental system, let's not pretend it's actually the President who runs the nation.

We all know that it's not. The President is the representative of the people, but it's not fully his (maybe her in the future) decision as to how the country is operating at any one given time.

I never could figure out why the vote for the President is given so much publicity in this country---it's not like we're actually voting directly for him (or maybe her) anyway.

But whatever. You all decide at the polls what mess you want for the next 4 years. It'll be a mess whether it's Democrat or Republican. Maybe by 2030 we'll finally get what we all need in this country.

But he is internationally. And with Trumps statements encouraging russian military attacks on NATO, is sitting it out an option.

 

[pgp_protector]

Raises hand.
But I don't want the job.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

But he is internationally. And with Trumps statements encouraging russian military attacks on NATO, is sitting it out an option.

We need to get over this tired myth that America can be the Great Arbitrator of world peace on all sectors, for all issues and on all fronts. It's a grand idea ideologically; it's a terrible role to appropriate for ourselves in the attempt to assimilate that ideal on a practical scale.

Of course, I'm not claiming that my word on this is some wonderful antidote or answer to anything or that anyone should be listening to little ol' me. But, being that my education has dealt with Social Philosophy born out from the events of historical consideration on the World scale, I think I could muster a few valid opinions, one being: that we can barely take care of ourselves due to the mess of pluralism and corporate outsourcing our business moguls are so enamored with.

What makes us think we can take care of the rest of the world at all times, let alone counter all the actions of all other aggressive nations and their peculiar political ideologies? (oh, I'm sure I'm missing some things.... we all are.)

I mean, if I pull my copy of Wittkopf, Eugene R., and James M. McCormick, eds. The domestic sources of American foreign policy: Insights and evidence. Rowman & Littlefield, 2008 of the shelf----- what further idealistic deliberations might I conceive need to be thought through in choosing a president?

Is it just going to be for the sake of Foreign Policy alone? I think not.

As for Russia, they're weird. And they're going to stay weird until they get some new, more enlightened thinkers (more truly Christian thinkers, I'd prefer see) into their lil ol' Kremlin ... ... and our president isn't going to be able to do much of anything about the change that is needed in Russia.

 

[Goonie]

We need to get over this tired myth that America can be the Great Arbitrator of world peace on all sectors, for all issues and on all fronts. It's a grand idea ideologically; it's a terrible role to appropriate for ourselves in the attempt to assimilate that ideal on a practical scale.

Of course, I'm not claiming that my word on this is some wonderful antidote or answer to anything or that anyone should be listening to little ol' me. But, being that my education has dealt with Social Philosophy born out from the events of historical consideration on the World scale, I think I could muster a few valid opinions, one being: that we can barely take care of ourselves due to the mess of pluralism and corporate outsourcing our business moguls are so enamored with.

What makes us think we can take care of the rest of the world at all times, let alone counter all the actions of all other aggressive nations and their peculiar political ideologies? (oh, I'm sure I'm missing some things.... we all are.)

I mean, if I pull my copy of Wittkopf, Eugene R., and James M. McCormick, eds. The domestic sources of American foreign policy: Insights and evidence. Rowman & Littlefield, 2008 of the shelf----- what further idealistic deliberations might I conceive need to be thought through in choosing a president?

Is it just going to be for the sake of Foreign Policy alone? I think not.

As for Russia, they're weird. And they're going to stay weird until they get some new, more enlightened thinkers (more truly Christian thinkers, I'd prefer see) into their lil ol' Kremlin ... ... and our president isn't going to be able to do much of anything about the change that is needed in Russia.

Just imagine it's 1932 Germany, do you think sitting out an election because there will be a better choice next one a good idea?

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Just imagine it's 1932 Germany, do you think sitting out an election because there will be a better choice next one a good idea?

No. Perhaps this is the most auspicious moment for a third party candidate.

 

[sprknjc]

If we have major war in the world the second half of this year, Nikki Haley has United Nations experience,, though still deeply evaluating her other strengths and weaknesses. She does have a political track record. None of us know how things will play out though. If? she is winning in primary delegates over Trump after Super Tuesday March 5, not out of the range of possibilities, then Trump is likely out of the picture. I already mailed in my primary ballot in Virginia, got an auto-text message from the local registrar's office it has been counted, and it is not for Trump.

 

[Ana the Ist]

D Trump is of course going to get more air time than Ramaswamy.

Yup.

Ramaswamy was never popular and so the audiences of media didn't really want to hear much about him.

I don't know if he was "never popular".

RFK isn't popular, his anti vax stance is horrendous.

What is his "anti-vax stance"?

A quote would suffice.

It is very unlikely that many people care about RFK as a presidential candidate,

He had some decent numbers earlier but I don't think you're saying what you intend to.....

and so audience of media don't really want to hear much about him.

The "audience" of media. Here's something your audience of media might have missed...

Peloton Competitor To Sponsor Theo Von After He Told Dana White Peloton Dissed Him Over Political Interview

Theo Von has a new sponsor after the Peloton controversy. During an interview with UFC CEO Dana White last week, Von revealed that Peloton has asked him

brobible.com

Pelaton apparently tried to decide who Theo Von's audience got to hear from. Why go after RFK? Same reason I always explained earlier....he hasn't been bought yet.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Just imagine it's 1932 Germany, do you think sitting out an election because there will be a better choice next one a good idea?

It's not 1932 Germany though. There's no Hitler here calling for anyone's extermination. We simply have a government that has painted itself into a corner with corporate greed and it's trying to hang onto whichever candidates it can to keep getting every last cent possible.

 

[Ana the Ist]

AK-15 Assault Rifle | MilitaryToday.com

The AK-15 is a new Russian assault rifle. It was developed under the Ratnik future infantrymen programme. This weapon was first publicly revealed in 2016. It is mainly aimed at elite special forces units.

www.militarytoday.com

Well...there you go lol.

Apparently I'm not enough of a gun nut these days.

Edit- am I crazy? Or does that shoulder stock seem low?