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Woke-ness in Europe and the USA and elsewhere

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about wokeness in Germany and elsewhere

I have just come across this article: "Germany is a world leader in wokeness"


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Certainly, ordinary Germans would find this gender-neutral language perplexing. But it is not as if gender-neutral German has simply been cooked up by a few woke academics in the UK. Quite the opposite. So-called Gendersprache (gender language) has been zealously promoted by many public institutions in Germany for a while now. Federal and state governments, as well the media and big corporations, are all trying to push this new ‘inclusive’ way of speaking.

Take the city of Hanover, for example. Gender-neutral language has been used for all official communications since 2019, with many other local governments following suit. Or take the first female chief of the Berlin police, Barbara Slowik. In 2019, she announced that she would no longer be referred to as the ‘police chief’ (der Polizeipräsident), as the term is masculine. But instead of opting for the feminine form of the same title (die Polizeipräsidentin), she decided on the gender-neutral ‘Polizei Berlin’ – meaning literally ‘the Berlin police’. Which is as nonsensical as it sounds.

If you read this article, you may understand why I have become a little bit critical regarding over-woke language.
In Germany some may be very thorough and strict.
 

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The truth is that Germany is not having wokeness imposed on it from abroad – neither by right-on academics in the UK, nor by American racial identitarians. On the contrary, its own elites are willingly embracing and promoting it. And in the case of trans lunacy, Germany is arguably leading the way. It is fast becoming the wokest country in Europe.

Lauren Smith is an intern at spiked.

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You guys have to stop melting down over “woke” things. None of you can articulate exactly what is so threatening about it or why anyone should care that any corporation or institution is implementing policies that help a broader scope of people. It’s pathetic. Come up with your own way to help people or get out of the way.
 

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Gendering in German has been done for quite a long time and is completely normal and not at all troublesome to most people.

The only problem I have is that it isn't done with negatively connotated words as often as with neutral or positive words.
 
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What’s your working definition of ‘woke’?
Excellent question. I think it's just a pejorative term for anything that far right wing malcontents oppose. And it's disrespectful to those of the Buddhist faith. I'm not a Buddhist, but I've read some of his accounts. According to legend, Siddhartha Gautama was once questioned by several scholarly men who were skeptical of his teachings. They asked "Are you a god?" He answered no. "Are you a god reincarnated?" Again, no.. "Are you a wizard?' Still no. Finally, they asked "Then what are you?' And Siddhartha answered, "I am awake." In fact, in the Sanskrit language, Buddha means the awakened, or enlightened one. Or one who's "woke." :oldthumbsup:
 
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Excellent question. I think it's just a pejorative term for anything that far right wing malcontents oppose. And it's disrespectful to those of the Buddhist faith. I'm not a Buddhist, but I've read some of his accounts. According to legend, Siddhartha Gautama was once questioned by several scholarly men who were skeptical of his teachings. They asked "Are you a god?" He answered no. "Are you a god reincarnated?" Again, no.. "Are you a wizard?' Still no. Finally, they asked "Then what are you?' And Siddhartha answered, "I am awake." In fact, in the Sanskrit language, Buddha means the awakened, or enlightened one. Or one who's "woke." :oldthumbsup:
I try to be and work at being "Woke".
 
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I try to be and work at being "Woke".
Of course. "Woke" means you realize that times, values, and attitudes change. You must accept it. It's kinda like biological evolution. If you cannot adapt to a changing environment, you and your species will go extinct.
 
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Update your definitions, everyone.

Gardening with native plants rather than lawn = woke

Jacquelyn Hawkins-McGrail's native garden and landscaping in the Hunting Creek neighborhood has created controversy. She has neighbors who enjoy it -- including, she says, the new Prospect mayor -- but others who think it's a nuisance which detracts from the neighborhood and trimmed turf lawns. McGrail said she knows one neighbor "wrote a rant on Nextdoor that this was an example of “woke gardening” and that Prospect "is almost all Republicans" and we don't want any woke gardens in Prospect."
 
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Update your definitions, everyone.

Gardening with native plants rather than lawn = woke

Jacquelyn Hawkins-McGrail's native garden and landscaping in the Hunting Creek neighborhood has created controversy. She has neighbors who enjoy it -- including, she says, the new Prospect mayor -- but others who think it's a nuisance which detracts from the neighborhood and trimmed turf lawns. McGrail said she knows one neighbor "wrote a rant on Nextdoor that this was an example of “woke gardening” and that Prospect "is almost all Republicans" and we don't want any woke gardens in Prospect."
"woke" = not what I'm used to.
 
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Update your definitions, everyone.

Gardening with native plants rather than lawn = woke

Jacquelyn Hawkins-McGrail's native garden and landscaping in the Hunting Creek neighborhood has created controversy. She has neighbors who enjoy it -- including, she says, the new Prospect mayor -- but others who think it's a nuisance which detracts from the neighborhood and trimmed turf lawns. McGrail said she knows one neighbor "wrote a rant on Nextdoor that this was an example of “woke gardening” and that Prospect "is almost all Republicans" and we don't want any woke gardens in Prospect."

It cannot mean, "Wakey, wakey eggs and bacey"


If Germany is world leader.

"We are the stupidiest government in Europe."
Sahra Wagenknecht.
 
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It cannot mean, "Wakey, wakey eggs and bacey"


If Germany is world leader.

"We are the stupidiest government in Europe."
Sahra Wagenknecht.
Do you think that Sahra Wagenknecht is someone worthy of being quoted for her opinion?
 
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Excellent question. I think it's just a pejorative term for anything that far right wing malcontents oppose. And it's disrespectful to those of the Buddhist faith

Buddhism doesn't have a monopology on the word. Awakening or enlightenment has its own connotations outside that religion.

. I'm not a Buddhist, but I've read some of his accounts. According to legend, Siddhartha Gautama was once questioned by several scholarly men who were skeptical of his teachings. They asked "Are you a god?" He answered no. "Are you a god reincarnated?" Again, no.. "Are you a wizard?' Still no. Finally, they asked "Then what are you?' And Siddhartha answered, "I am awake." In fact, in the Sanskrit language, Buddha means the awakened, or enlightened one. Or one who's "woke." :oldthumbsup:

The term "woke" actually came from the African American community in the US, to refer to people that are more politically aware, often influenced by left-wing politics or conspiracy theories. You can find this kind of "woke" character occasionally in Spike Lee movies from the 80's and 90's.
 
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uncertain ……. what is yours ….?
What conservatives don’t understand and don’t like. For example; not dehumanising gay people is woke.
 
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