Doctors have stopped believing that 'chemical imbalance' causes depression. They didn't tell us

[Michie]

Many think too little serotonin causes depression and antidepressants can correct that imbalance. But psychiatrists stopped believing that theory long ago.

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Doctors have stopped thinking a 'chemical imbalance' causes depression | National Post

 

[linux.poet]

Sin and depression are linked on a very deep level

I agree with this. The sin nature is depressed because it has been defeated by Christ and its objectives are pointless and meaningless and will fail. The more the Holy Spirit is in control of someone, the less depressed they will become.

 

[DragonFox91]

It’s a spiritual thing. When I focus on God’s truths, the depression goes away. If not immediate or that day, one day the truths just really hit me. It’s interesting how it can go from total pits to joy, from joy to total pits, w/out any external influence. I don’t think that’s chemical.

Sometimes focusing on his truths make you more depressed b/c your sinfulness is fighting it. Sometimes you choose not to focus on God’s truths, you’d rather be depressed.

The Spirit prevents it from being even WORSE, & the depression can lose its frequency & power. I’m not sure it ever really goes away for good. Some things just can’t change.

BTW, if it’s all just chemicals, then it doesn’t matter. Love is just a chemical reaction, as is joy, peace, etc, anything good, & anything bad too.

 

[TPop]

Many think too little serotonin causes depression and antidepressants can correct that imbalance. But psychiatrists stopped believing that theory long ago.

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Doctors have stopped thinking a 'chemical imbalance' causes depression | National Post

Question, please. Do you suffer from Depression? Severe depression?

 

[Michie]

Question, please. Do you suffer from Depression? Severe depression?

Yes I have in the past.

 

[TPop]

Yes I have in the past.

Then you are likely aware of how damaging incorrect information is.
Please read your linked article again.
It does not state that SSRI medication does not work. It questions the link.

"However, “Continued attacks on the ‘chemical imbalance theory’ by anti-psychiatrists are beating a long dead horse and have the harmful unintended consequence of discouraging people with severe depression from taking the meds they desperately need and won’t get well without,” Frances said."

This quote above clearly states some desperately need these meds. I know that none SSRI's antidepressants do nothing for me. Only the SSRI does.

Mental health is a fragile thing. Some of it can be sin-related. Some of it biology or chemistry. They do not know and cannot differentiate. So be careful of implying that medication does nothing and that this is a long-accepted truth. It is not. It's being questioned. And questions in science are great. Taking an article and making a statement that is not true is dangerous.

 

[TPop]

Sin and depression are linked on a very deep level

This is a blanket statement and not true. Please be very careful about these statements. That is, unless you are someone that Never goes to a Doctor and only prays about your physical, mental, spiritual, dental, eye, blood, etc. health.

People with horrible crippling depression read these types of statements and hear them from preachers and become despondent. Because no one is there to help them figure out the actual root cause. And to say that Sin is 100% the root cause of depression is simply not true and extremely destructive!

Many people do not judge people for fear of judging wrong. We judge people not by their actions, but by their words.

But then someone says I am depressed, or worse, I have horrible depression, and people start saying it is because of or linked to SIN. Which only leaves about 98%+ of the people with a big nothing burger in what to do. All because someone, thinks that they can judge someone's Sin life, by a verbal statement about depression.

That is false and inappropriate. And many Preachers and Teachers and ignorant and uneducated people make these statements.

Depression, Bipolar, Schizophrenia and other mental health concerns are real, can be devastating, and can be wholly, partially, or minnammally to do with Sin.

These types of statements, keep a wife from Rx treatment because her husband believes its all Sin and Rx's for depression are not real and are bad. There is as much truth that Rx's for depression are bad for you as saying 'water is dangerous'.

 

[TPop]

Many think too little serotonin causes depression and antidepressants can correct that imbalance. But psychiatrists stopped believing that theory long ago.

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Doctors have stopped thinking a 'chemical imbalance' causes depression | National Post

Additionally, I would like to ask you this.
Do you know what the DSM in the article is and used for?

 

[Michie]

Then you are likely aware of how damaging incorrect information is.
Please read your linked article again.
It does not state that SSRI medication does not work. It questions the link.

"However, “Continued attacks on the ‘chemical imbalance theory’ by anti-psychiatrists are beating a long dead horse and have the harmful unintended consequence of discouraging people with severe depression from taking the meds they desperately need and won’t get well without,” Frances said."

This quote above clearly states some desperately need these meds. I know that none SSRI's antidepressants do nothing for me. Only the SSRI does.

Mental health is a fragile thing. Some of it can be sin-related. Some of it biology or chemistry. They do not know and cannot differentiate. So be careful of implying that medication does nothing and that this is a long-accepted truth. It is not. It's being questioned. And questions in science are great. Taking an article and making a statement that is not true is dangerous.

Look. My sister just got out of ICU, etc. from trying to kill herself. I do not need you preaching at me. Topics are posted for discussion. They are not medical advice.

 

[TPop]

Look. My sister just got out of ICU, etc. from trying to kill herself. I do not need you preaching at me. Topics are posted for discussion. They are not medical advice.

Please don't post incomplete and misdirecting information.

 

[Michie]

Please don't post incomplete and misdirecting information.

I’ll post what I think is appropriate to discuss. You can ignore it.

 

[TPop]

Perhaps your wisdom around what is appropriate about mental health and Rx' could use some revising and updating.

The DSM is a billing manual Only and has nothing to do with any Rx's validity in use.

 

[Michie]

Perhaps your wisdom around what is appropriate about mental health and Rx' could use some revising and updating.

The DSM is a billing manual Only and has nothing to do with any Rx's validity in use.

Doctors in the mental health field will tell you that there is not a one size fits all for every patient. I’m not going to argue this topic with you. See something you do not like? Report it or ignore it. The fact is that not all medications work on all people. Treatment for mental illness is far from a perfected practice. It is constantly being researched. That’s the point.

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[Carl Emerson]

I for one I was committed to a psych ward and administered ECT and chlorpromazine.

Then folks heard about me and started to pray.

I remember the treatment reducing me to a vegetable state.

Somehow I was released and the journey back to normality began.

7 years of prayer and ministry including deliverance and no medication.

It was a difficult journey but I rejoice in my redemption - Jesus truely has authority over any condition physical emotional mental or spiritual.

I have been stable and strong for 45 years.

There is no need to be imprisoned in medications for life if you give all to Him and seek prayer ministry for healing.

 

[Michie]

I for one I was committed to a psych ward and administered ECT and chlorpromazine.

Then folks heard about me and started to pray.

I remember the treatment reducing me to a vegetable state.

Somehow I was released and the journey back to normality began.

7 years of prayer and ministry including deliverance and no medication.

It was a difficult journey but I rejoice in my redemption - Jesus truely has authority over any condition physical emotional mental or spiritual.

I have been stable and strong for 45 years.

There is no need to be imprisoned in medications for life if you give all to Him and seek prayer ministry for healing.

My sister has been humming to herself all day. Probably to drown out the voices. She has to be on meds. The problem is finding the combination that works. They have been working on it for years. Prozac snapped me out of my clinical depression a few years back. But those types of meds do not work for her. Prayers appreciated.

 

[Michie]

Sheesh! Just noticed this thread is from 2022.

 

[TPop]

I for one I was committed to a psych ward and administered ECT and chlorpromazine.

Then folks heard about me and started to pray.

I remember the treatment reducing me to a vegetable state.

Somehow I was released and the journey back to normality began.

7 years of prayer and ministry including deliverance and no medication.

It was a difficult journey but I rejoice in my redemption - Jesus truely has authority over any condition physical emotional mental or spiritual.

I have been stable and strong for 45 years.

There is no need to be imprisoned in medications for life if you give all to Him and seek prayer ministry for healing.

That is amazing to hear! Prais the Lord!
I am so happy for YOU!

 

[Lady Bug]

I don't know what to say. It doesn't explain the fact that the severe depression that I would normally get during my PMS is noticeably softened down from my AD.

 

[Carl Emerson]

I don't know what to say. It doesn't explain the fact that the severe depression that I would normally get during my PMS is noticeably softened down from my AD.

Of course, but regulating symptoms is very different from being healed and fully restored.

 

[TPop]

Of course, but regulating symptoms is very different from being healed and fully restored.

My apologies if I am dense. What is this post supposed to elicit? Understanding of what? What is the intent?
We have to be more clear and intentional in a mental health thread so as not to provide mixed messages.

Peace and Blessings