Why did God Punish Snakes Instead of Satan?

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Genesis says that the snake, or serpent, was an animal. It was smarter than other animals, but still an animal.

Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild
animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman,
“Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the
garden’?
Genesis 3:1 NIV

Yes, it says the serpent was a wild animal. If I say that the snake in the Garden of Eden story is an animal many people think I an introducing some kind of newfangled revisionism. They have been told that the serpent is the Devil, Satan. At the end of the same chapter, God pronounces punishment on the serpent, to be borne by all other serpent until the end of time.

So the LORD God said to the serpent, “Because you have
done this, “Cursed are you above all the livestock and all the
wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat
dust all the days of your life.”
Genesis 3:14 NIV

At the end of Genesis 3, the serpent is still a wild animal. The serpent is cursed to lose its legs, and crawl on the ground.

Everyone tells me that the Devil tempted Eve. I’m not sure if the Devil turned himself into a snake, or if he possessed the snake and spoke through the snake. Either way, this poses a question. If it was the Devil who tempted Eve, why did God punish the serpent?

 

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Genesis says that the snake, or serpent, was an animal. It was smarter than other animals, but still an animal.

Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild
animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman,
“Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the
garden’?
Genesis 3:1 NIV

Yes, it says the serpent was a wild animal. If I say that the snake in the Garden of Eden story is an animal many people think I an introducing some kind of newfangled revisionism. They have been told that the serpent is the Devil, Satan. At the end of the same chapter, God pronounces punishment on the serpent, to be borne by all other serpent until the end of time.

So the LORD God said to the serpent, “Because you have
done this, “Cursed are you above all the livestock and all the
wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat
dust all the days of your life.”
Genesis 3:14 NIV

At the end of Genesis 3, the serpent is still a wild animal. The serpent is cursed to lose its legs, and crawl on the ground.

Everyone tells me that the Devil tempted Eve. I’m not sure if the Devil turned himself into a snake, or if he possessed the snake and spoke through the snake. Either way, this poses a question. If it was the Devil who tempted Eve, why did God punish the serpent?
The serpent was Satan. That is clear from other passages in God's word (Revelation 12:9 and 20:2). God was speaking to Satan directly. It seems to mean snakes but that is not necessarily so. What is clear is that Satan is cursed and lost his magnificent appearance.

Snakes do not eat dust. They eat all kinds of critters. However, man is made from the dust of the earth. Satan certainly "feeds" on humanity. Satan is powerless if he has no human to control. This also applies to all of Satan's evil host.

Satan is the serpent. No doubt Satan knew the prohibition God put on the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Inciting rebellion against authority is a criminal offence even in human law. How much more is it an offence against God's holy nature?
 
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From Clear Bible answers . org

The serpent in the Garden of Eden was a real serpent. The Bible records:

Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. (Genesis 3:1)

It was a "beast of the field".

The word "subtil" generally means, "cunning and deceptive". This definition will not fit in here because the earth was still in a perfect state at that period of time. "Subtil" therefore meant clever.

When God created the animals on the sixth day God made everything "good".

And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. (Genesis 1:25)

The Creator, our Lord Jesus Christ, told us that the serpent is a wise creature. He said:

Be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. (Matthew 10:16)

The serpent is the wisest after man; therefore the devil opted to use it as his medium. Since there was no human being around except Adam and Eve, the devil had to use his second best option.

When Eve fell to his trap, he no longer used the serpent to tempt Adam; Eve was his better bait! Didn't Jesus also say that "man" is now the agent that Satan uses to play his deception?

And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. (Matthew 24:4)

The book of Genesis, which is the first book of the Bible, just mentions the serpent deceiving Eve, but does not mention the role of Satan there. In the last book of the Bible, the book of Revelation, God tells us in plain language who that old serpent or the serpent that appeared of old was.

The dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan. (Revelation 20:2)

ONE MIGHT ASK: Did the devil come as a serpent or did the devil use a serpent medium? It is a valid question. A close look at the texts of Genesis reveals that the serpent was a real serpent, and the devil used it as his medium and spoke through it.

Please notice how the serpent was introduced and whose voice it is:

Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? (Genesis 3:1)

The first sentence talks about a real serpent of the field. The next sentence does not say "it" said, but rather, "he" said. That is a clue that the serpent was only the medium but someone else was speaking through it.

There are people, who believe that serpents were endowed with the power of speech and reason before sin entered the world, and the logic that is cited is-Eve did not express surprise when the serpent spoke and reasoned out things with her! Well, that is not true. Remember Balaam's ass that spoke?

And the LORD opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times? And Balaam said unto the ass, Because thou hast mocked me: I would there were a sword in mine hand, for now would I kill thee. And the ass said unto Balaam, Am not I thine ass, upon which thou hast ridden ever since I was thine unto this day? was I ever wont to do so unto thee? And he said, Nay. (Numbers 22:28-30)

Is there any surprise expressed by Balaam when his ass spoke? Because there is no surprise on Balaam's part we can't conclude that asses were speaking during Balaam's time, can we? "The LORD opened the mouth of the ass" during Balaam's time and Satan opened the mouth of the serpent during the first temptation.

What a contrast between the two creatures that ever spoke! A serpent-the wisest-became the mouthpiece of the devil. An ass-the foolish beast-became the mouthpiece of the Lord! How beautiful this truth fits in:

But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty. (1 Corinthians 1:27)

To further prove that serpents were not endowed with the power of speech is to look at the curse that the Lord pronounced on them.

And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life. (Genesis 3:14)

Two curses are mentioned here. The first-"upon thy belly shalt thou go". Which means it was not going on its belly before. It was probably flying, as Isaiah talks about a "fiery flying serpent" (Isaiah 30:6). The second curse was-"Dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life", which means it was not eating dust before. If serpents were speaking before, then why aren't they speaking now? If they had this ability to speak before, and that bility was removed, why doesn't the Bible mention that? We see nothing of the removal of the power of speech in the curses pronounced on it.

ONE MIGHT SAY: Doesn't the serpent eat a lot of other things too, and not just dust? Yes it does. But notice what God did not say: God did not say, "Only dust shalt thou eat". Dust would be its food, but not its only food.

After cursing the serpent God curses the one behind the serpent, the devil himself.

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. (Genesis 3:15)

This is the first prophecy of the coming Messiah. In fact if was declared to the devil first, and not to our first parents! There is no doubt that Jesus' coming to earth was to save believing mankind; but His battle was with the devil primarily, and not man.

ONE MIGHT ASK: Was it fair for God to curse the serpent which was only a medium? Wasn't it innocent? We need to realize that not only the medium of the devil was cursed but the entire creation on planet earth suffered. God told Adam:

Cursed is the ground for thy sake. (Genesis 3:17)

And Paul wrote:

For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. (Romans 8:22)

It really wouldn't have mattered as to which animal was used as a medium as the curse would not just come upon the medium only but on the entire creation.

ONE MIGHT ASK: Why did God permit the devil to use a medium? Well, the devil has to be given a fair chance to play his tricks. God had to permit him to use his methods in this Great War. If God cuts off his powers then the Satan would have accused God of monopoly in this great drama of life.
 
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Sometimes, you have to take things at face value.
My response would be I don't know. But I do know God is always just, and His judgments are beyond question.
Part of faith is not questioning His judgments. What is the use of questioning? Seeking is one thing that leads to opportunities for undiscovered truth. But questioning leads to doubt.
 
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It seems pretty obvious the serpent had some other form before God transformed it into a snake as punishment. A lowly creature that slithers on its belly and "eats" the dust it kickes up while slithering though arid dirt. Like the saying "eat my dust" or "another one bites the dust".
 
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Genesis says that the snake, or serpent, was an animal. It was smarter than other animals, but still an animal.

Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild
animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman,
“Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the
garden’?
Genesis 3:1 NIV

Yes, it says the serpent was a wild animal. If I say that the snake in the Garden of Eden story is an animal many people think I an introducing some kind of newfangled revisionism. They have been told that the serpent is the Devil, Satan. At the end of the same chapter, God pronounces punishment on the serpent, to be borne by all other serpent until the end of time.

So the LORD God said to the serpent, “Because you have
done this, “Cursed are you above all the livestock and all the
wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat
dust all the days of your life.”
Genesis 3:14 NIV

At the end of Genesis 3, the serpent is still a wild animal. The serpent is cursed to lose its legs, and crawl on the ground.

Everyone tells me that the Devil tempted Eve. I’m not sure if the Devil turned himself into a snake, or if he possessed the snake and spoke through the snake. Either way, this poses a question. If it was the Devil who tempted Eve, why did God punish the serpent?
The snake is a metaphor for Satan. God is not punishing snakes, but Satan.
 
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That's talking about snakes traveling with their face in the dirt inhaling dust.
Says you. That's not what the Bible says. How many snakes did Jesus kill when He rose from the dead? How many snakes from Eden were still alive in 0 A.D.? You can't have it both ways. If was a natural snake in Eden then it could not have spoken to Adam. If it was a serpent, Satan in disguise, he would not be eating physical dust. Inhaling is not eating, by the way. They may get some dust ingested with what they eat. It's not part of their diet.
 
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Says you. That's not what the Bible says. How many snakes did Jesus kill when He rose from the dead? How many snakes from Eden were still alive in 0 A.D.? You can't have it both ways. If was a natural snake in Eden then it could not have spoken to Adam. If it was a serpent, Satan in disguise, he would not be eating physical dust. Inhaling is not eating, by the way. They may get some dust ingested with what they eat. It's not part of their diet.
It's a pretty old idea actually. And I think it has to do with a snake with its face basically in the dirt while traveling. Rather than referring to a meal. The idea is originally the serpent was an entirely deferring type of creature than a snake, but was changed into a snake that crawls on its belly and eats dust (gets dirt dust in its mouth). But the whole passage is pretty cryptic and there's a few longstanding interpretations of what it all means. What is the serpent's seed for instance? Does that just mean snake offspring? Or some ancient race? It seems reasonable to conclude the serpent as well was sent out of Eden or just left.
 
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The serpent was Satan. That is clear from other passages in God's word (Revelation 12:9 and 20:2). God was speaking to Satan directly. It seems to mean snakes but that is not necessarily so. What is clear is that Satan is cursed and lost his magnificent appearance.

Snakes do not eat dust. They eat all kinds of critters. However, man is made from the dust of the earth. Satan certainly "feeds" on humanity. Satan is powerless if he has no human to control. This also applies to all of Satan's evil host.

Satan is the serpent. No doubt Satan knew the prohibition God put on the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Inciting rebellion against authority is a criminal offence even in human law. How much more is it an offence against God's holy nature?

Paintings and drawings of the Dragon in Revelation 12 show the Dragon with legs.

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The serpent was Satan. That is clear from other passages in God's word (Revelation 12:9 and 20:2). God was speaking to Satan directly. It seems to mean snakes but that is not necessarily so. What is clear is that Satan is cursed and lost his magnificent appearance.

Snakes do not eat dust. They eat all kinds of critters. However, man is made from the dust of the earth. Satan certainly "feeds" on humanity. Satan is powerless if he has no human to control. This also applies to all of Satan's evil host.

Satan is the serpent. No doubt Satan knew the prohibition God put on the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Inciting rebellion against authority is a criminal offence even in human law. How much more is it an offence against God's holy nature?

The image in my last post came from Pinterest.com, at pin/352969689530353427.

It doubled the image when I tried to put that in.
 
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The serpent was Satan. That is clear from other passages in God's word (Revelation 12:9 and 20:2). God was speaking to Satan directly. It seems to mean snakes but that is not necessarily so. What is clear is that Satan is cursed and lost his magnificent appearance.

Snakes do not eat dust. They eat all kinds of critters. However, man is made from the dust of the earth. Satan certainly "feeds" on humanity. Satan is powerless if he has no human to control. This also applies to all of Satan's evil host.

Satan is the serpent. No doubt Satan knew the prohibition God put on the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Inciting rebellion against authority is a criminal offence even in human law. How much more is it an offence against God's holy nature?

AussiePete: << The serpent was Satan. That is clear from other passages in God's word (Revelation 12:9 and 20:2). God was speaking to Satan directly. It seems to mean snakes but that is not necessarily so. What is clear is that Satan is cursed and lost his magnificent appearance. >>



The dragon in Revelation has seven heads, ten horns and crowns. The snake in the Garden of Eden story has one head, no horns and no crowns. What’s the connection?

Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads.
Revelation 12:3 NIV


Did Satan lose “his magnificent appearance” by God’s command?

And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
II Corinthians 11:14 NIV


Paul tells us that Satan can still present himself as “an angel of light.”



 
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AussiePete: << The serpent was Satan. That is clear from other passages in God's word (Revelation 12:9 and 20:2). God was speaking to Satan directly. It seems to mean snakes but that is not necessarily so. What is clear is that Satan is cursed and lost his magnificent appearance. >>



The dragon in Revelation has seven heads, ten horns and crowns. The snake in the Garden of Eden story has one head, no horns and no crowns. What’s the connection?


Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads.
Revelation 12:3 NIV


Did Satan lose “his magnificent appearance” by God’s command?

And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
II Corinthians 11:14 NIV


Paul tells us that Satan can still present himself as “an angel of light.”
The Serpent, aka Satan, certainly lost his beauty when God cursed him. There is no snake in Eden. Satan is still alive and cannot die as he is a spirit being, not physical. Snakes have a lifespan of maybe 30 years, not several thousand years. So no, the Serpent in the garden is not a snake. Snakes do not feed on dust either, which I said previously.
 
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The Serpent, aka Satan, certainly lost his beauty when God cursed him. There is no snake in Eden. Satan is still alive and cannot die as he is a spirit being, not physical. Snakes have a lifespan of maybe 30 years, not several thousand years. So no, the Serpent in the garden is not a snake. Snakes do not feed on dust either, which I said previously.


AussiePete: “… the Serpent in the garden is not a snake.”

You’re arguing with the dictionary.

On snakes eating dust, that was not a literal statement. Taking it as a literal is just a dead end.

You say that Satan “lost his beauty.” Are you arguing with Paul’s view in II Corinthians?
 
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AussiePete: << The serpent was Satan. That is clear from other passages in God's word (Revelation 12:9 and 20:2). God was speaking to Satan directly. It seems to mean snakes but that is not necessarily so. What is clear is that Satan is cursed and lost his magnificent appearance. >>



The dragon in Revelation has seven heads, ten horns and crowns. The snake in the Garden of Eden story has one head, no horns and no crowns. What’s the connection?


Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads.
Revelation 12:3 NIV


Did Satan lose “his magnificent appearance” by God’s command?

And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
II Corinthians 11:14 NIV


Paul tells us that Satan can still present himself as “an angel of light.”
The picture described in revelation is a representative of the same entity, Satan. It's still a serpent. And a dragon. The reason there are no crowns or heads etc in Genesis is because of what those things represent... empires, kings, etc which developed later as a part of Satan's kingdom and became his agents in the war against Christ.
 
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AussiePete: “… the Serpent in the garden is not a snake.”

You’re arguing with the dictionary.

On snakes eating dust, that was not a literal statement. Taking it as a literal is just a dead end.

You say that Satan “lost his beauty.” Are you arguing with Paul’s view in II Corinthians?
No, I'm affirming the description of Satan's fall in Ezekiel 28. There were no snakes in Eden. Satan is not called "The Snake of Old" in the book of Revelation. I am saying that Satan is not, and never has been, a snake.
 
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No, I'm affirming the description of Satan's fall in Ezekiel 28. There were no snakes in Eden. Satan is not called "The Snake of Old" in the book of Revelation. I am saying that Satan is not, and never has been, a snake.

AussiePete: “ I am saying that Satan is not, and never has been, a snake.”

Yet you say that the serpent is Satan.

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Yes, it says the serpent was a wild animal.
"IT" is in the NIV. I usually don't have problems with the NIV translation but they really missed it here. The KJV says: "beast of the field". The key word here is field. This is a reference to domesticated animals that are now tame and no longer "wild". Animals talk to us and often we want I can figure out what their thoughts are. To some degree this has to do with the imagination and we are told that God destroyed the world because

This does not answer your question, but it gets us headed in the right direction. I believe in a literal bible, but that is not the issue here. The letters and words represent archetype that are infinite in value. So you can question a talking serpent or talking donkeys' .But everyone seems to agree that the real question is what does the serpent represent.

Genesis 6:5 "The LORD saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time."

The Bible is a book of redemption and it would apa began when the dinosaurs began to consume one another. As dinosaurs have been found in the stomach of other dinosaurs.

Man was given dominion and if creation because corrupt then man would be held responsible.
 
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