Science Proves Creation

[Astrophile]

Over the years I have experienced numerous instances that defy the supposedly known laws of Physics, and even logic.

For example?

 

[AV1611VET]

For example?

 

[Hans Blaster]

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It's a mathematical shape created by knocking over stalks of grain. It's not inexplicable physics.

 

[AV1611VET]

It's a mathematical shape created by knocking over stalks of grain. It's not inexplicable physics.

I think scientists have found more to them than just mathematical shapes and stalks of grain knocked to the ground ... don't you?

 

[Hans Blaster]

I think scientists have found more to them than just mathematical shapes and stalks of grain knocked to the ground ... don't you?

Some of the shapes aren't mathematical, so what.

 

[AV1611VET]

Some of the shapes aren't mathematical, so what.

Wow.

Here you go:

A small number of scientists (physicist Eltjo Haselhoff, the late biophysicist William Levengood) have found differences between the crops inside the circles and outside them, citing this as evidence they were not man-made.

SOURCE

 

[Hans Blaster]

Wow.

Here you go:



SOURCE

I am aware of the "circle nutters" and their "blown joint" claims, etc. It's all a matter of wishful thinking. Wishing things were there that aren't.

 

[AV1611VET]

I am aware of the "circle nutters" and their "blown joint" claims, etc.

Did ... did you just call an MSc, PhD, FGP a 'circle nutter'?

 

[Hans Blaster]

Did ... did you just call an MSc, PhD, FGP a 'circle nutter'?

What do you think?

 

[AV1611VET]

What do you think?

I think the majority of academia live in a teensy-weensy primeval atom called "the physical universe."

If they can't see it, feel it, touch it, smell it, hear it, or quantify it, it doesn't exist.

And anyone who says otherwise -- even their own -- become targets of name-calling and ridicule.

Yes.

Your post demonstrates that you're willing to ridicule your own people to save face; and keep Astrophile's legitimate question from being properly answered.

But, hey.

If you're willing to thrown Eltjo Haselhoff under the bus to keep me from legitimately answering a good question, then so be it.

 

[Hans Blaster]

I think the majority of academia live in a teensy-weensy primeval atom called "the physical universe."

The primordial atom is an antiquated and out dated concept.

If they can't see it, feel it, touch it, smell it, hear it, or quantify it, it doesn't exist.

Sounds like a plan. Measure it or else.

And anyone who says otherwise -- even their own -- become targets of name-calling and ridicule.

Yes.

Your post demonstrates that you're willing to ridicule your own people to save face; and keep Astrophile's legitimate question from being properly answered.

Crop circles don't require exotic physics, just a plan, some ropes, and a device to stomp down stalks. It's still impressive design and subterfuge, but it's not exotic.

But, hey.

If you're willing to thrown Eltjo Haselhoff under the bus to keep me from legitimately answering a good question, then so be it.

I looked him up after reading this post as I'd never heard of him. I have no problem underbussing him. None what so ever. I assume he's a better guitar player than I (FGP is apparently for "fine guitar player"), but he's lost the plot on physics if he's chasing "weird physics" in crop circles.

 

[AV1611VET]

I looked him up after reading this post as I'd never heard of him. I have no problem underbussing him. None what so ever. I assume he's a better guitar player than I (FGP is apparently for "fine guitar player"), but he's lost the plot on physics if he's chasing "weird physics" in crop circles.

-- I know you better than this, Hans.

Show me your research skills and get the right person.

 

[Hans Blaster]

-- I know you better than this, Hans.

Show me your research skills and get the right person.

His "researchgate" profile reads:

Eltjo Haselhoff

Independent Artist & Researcher​

MSc, PhD, FGP

Guitar playing, physics research & mobile app development

and then details publications including on "crop circles".

 

[HARK!]

I asked you a question, or rather two questions.

The first is, are you inferring that the origin of the universe in the 'Big Bang' 13.8 billion years ago requires its creation by a sentient being of unknown nature, and nothing more than that?

The second is, are you saying that science proves that the creation story in Genesis 1 is true?

I didn't intend to have a Theological discussion. That is why I posted this thread in the Science forum.

What do you infer created the universe?

 

[Astrid]

I didn't intend to have a Theological discussion. That is why I posted this thread in the Science forum.

What do you infer created the universe?

Creation requires a creator, so you are stll
talking theology.

 

[driewerf]

-- I know you better than this, Hans.

Show me your research skills and get the right person.

Author Benjamin Myers on the crop circle makers who 'blew people's minds'

A new novel follows the men who owned up to making crop circles - but some of the mystery remains.

www.bbc.com

Crop Circles Were Made by Supernatural Forces. Named Doug and Dave. (Published 2022)

Intricate patterns carved in fields across England in the 1980s were a viral phenomenon long before the internet fed us such prankster curiosities daily.

www.nytimes.com

Crop Circles: The Art of the Hoax

They may not be evidence of UFOs, ancient spirits or secret weapons, but there is something magical in their allure

www.smithsonianmag.com

 

[AV1611VET]

Author Benjamin Myers on the crop circle makers who 'blew people's minds'

A new novel follows the men who owned up to making crop circles - but some of the mystery remains.

www.bbc.com

Crop Circles Were Made by Supernatural Forces. Named Doug and Dave. (Published 2022)

Intricate patterns carved in fields across England in the 1980s were a viral phenomenon long before the internet fed us such prankster curiosities daily.

www.nytimes.com

Crop Circles: The Art of the Hoax

They may not be evidence of UFOs, ancient spirits or secret weapons, but there is something magical in their allure

www.smithsonianmag.com

Impressive credentials, don't you think?

Would you add "circle nutter" to them, as Hans did?

 

[Hans Blaster]

Impressive credentials, don't you think?

Would you add "circle nutter" to them, as Hans did?

Seems like those links show what I was saying...

(In case you can't tell, "circle nutters" was the term I used for the people who "investigate" circles for weird physics and paranormal activity and didn't find "Doug and Dave".)

 

[Astrid]

Seems like those links show what I was saying...

(In case you can't tell, "circle nutters" was the term I used for the people who "investigate" circles for weird physics and paranormal activity and didn't find "Doug and Dave".)

" thread hijack" is also a term

 

[Hans Blaster]

" thread hijack" is also a term

It was a perfectly fine, but dead, thread with an unanswered promise to provide evidence of things that physics can't explain and someone proposes something explainable by simple crop mechanics. Call an Ag. Engineer who builds harvesters.