Just for final clarification yes, we evolved from monkeys.

[driewerf]

We are made in the image of God.

Since this counts as a well thought argument:

Nope

 

[Lost4words]

So the statement, apparently, is that
all of ToE is just on paper? Like that
it's all just made up nonsense, exists
only "on paper", iow, imagination?

And that is countered with that there
is extensive physical evidence for ToE,
while god- stuff of any sort is actually
what is only on paper.

Correct?

You say "nope" as in. the ToE stuff ain't true.

And you explain why it's nope, by quoting
a bible passage about image of god?.

You understand, don't you, that said reply
is not responsive?

We are all made in the image of God.

This is a Christian website. Arguing against my beliefs is futile.

 

[Lost4words]

Since this counts as a well thought argument:

Woof!

 

[driewerf]

Woof!

If you expect that a single "nope" will brush away all the evidence for evolution and common ancestry, like the fossil record, homologous genes; comparative anatomy, biogeography, metabolic pathways and so on, then a lot of disappointments will await you. I am going to repeat myself:

At least we have dots to connect. Despite that we have a massive amount of dots, we continue to add dots to that impressive pile of dots. With each fossil dug up, with each genome sequenced, with each metabolic pathway unraveled, there could pop up a dot that brings the whole set of connections down. Yet, after 200 years all dots fit nicely. After 200 years not a single dot is out of order.

Heck you even display the behaviour that is so typical for creationists:

You on the other hand have nothing. Not single fossil, not a single rock layer, not a single gene. You still not even grasped the simple rule of debunking the Theory of Evolution: know thy enemy.
The only thing that creationists display is their ignorance and their incapability of processing even the tiniest piece of new information.

If you expect to bring people closer to christianity by just posting a "nope"... you fail. You only convince me more that christianity has nothing to offer, and that I stay better away from it.

 

[trophy33]

If you expect to bring people closer to christianity by just posting a "nope"... you fail. You only convince me more that christianity has nothing to offer, and that I stay better away from it.

However, the most of Christianity does accept the old universe and evolution (or does not care or is agnostic about this issue).

Because they are not (understandably) so visible on public forums, because they have nothing to argue against, makes them less visible, but they are the majority.

 

[Lost4words]

If you expect that a single "nope" will brush away all the evidence for evolution and common ancestry, like the fossil record, homologous genes; comparative anatomy, biogeography, metabolic pathways and so on, then a lot of disappointments will await you. I am going to repeat myself:

At least we have dots to connect. Despite that we have a massive amount of dots, we continue to add dots to that impressive pile of dots. With each fossil dug up, with each genome sequenced, with each metabolic pathway unraveled, there could pop up a dot that brings the whole set of connections down. Yet, after 200 years all dots fit nicely. After 200 years not a single dot is out of order.

Heck you even display the behaviour that is so typical for creationists:

You on the other hand have nothing. Not single fossil, not a single rock layer, not a single gene. You still not even grasped the simple rule of debunking the Theory of Evolution: know thy enemy.
The only thing that creationists display is their ignorance and their incapability of processing even the tiniest piece of new information.

If you expect to bring people closer to christianity by just posting a "nope"... you fail. You only convince me more that christianity has nothing to offer, and that I stay better away from it.

Thing i have is my belief in God.

 

[Astrid]

We are all made in the image of God.

Arguing against my beliefs is futile.

Good short description of intellectual
dishonesty.

I'd recommend you stand clear of
 discussion forums that you waste not
the time of those who know where they are.

 

[Astrid]

If you expect that a single "nope" will brush away all the evidence for evolution and common ancestry, like the fossil record, homologous genes; comparative anatomy, biogeography, metabolic pathways and so on, then a lot of disappointments will await you. I am going to repeat myself:

At least we have dots to connect. Despite that we have a massive amount of dots, we continue to add dots to that impressive pile of dots. With each fossil dug up, with each genome sequenced, with each metabolic pathway unraveled, there could pop up a dot that brings the whole set of connections down. Yet, after 200 years all dots fit nicely. After 200 years not a single dot is out of order.

Heck you even display the behaviour that is so typical for creationists:

You on the other hand have nothing. Not single fossil, not a single rock layer, not a single gene. You still not even grasped the simple rule of debunking the Theory of Evolution: know thy enemy.
The only thing that creationists display is their ignorance and their incapability of processing even the tiniest piece of new information.

If you expect to bring people closer to christianity by just posting a "nope"... you fail. You only convince me more that christianity has nothing to offer, and that I stay better away from it.

Prob is that if a creationist "knew his enemy"
he has to choose between a more mature
undrrdtanding, or abandoning integrity.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

QV please:



SOURCE:

The Fine Line Between Persuasion And Consensus

A training firm? Really?

 

[driewerf]

We are all made in the image of God.

Prove it. And before you even start, faith will be dismissed ans an answer.

This is a Christian website.

I know. But that's irrelevant. Does truth change according to which site it is published on?

Arguing against my beliefs is futile.

Are so close minded that you prefer to carry a wrong opinion - on anything - for the rest of your life, rather than to be corrected?
I invite you to read my signature and wonder:
I prefer to be shown wrong 15 times a day, each day than to be falsely told that I am right and carry even one wrong opinion for the rest of my life.

 

[trophy33]

Prove it.

We have the concept of good and evil. Animals do not. Also spirituality, logic, rationality, planning, wisdom, creativity, belief in the afterlife, we are changing our environment to suit our needs (jailbraking the naturalistic determinism), we are manipulating atoms and the code of our own bodies, we are even able to understand the stars we see in the sky and to potentially reach them.

 

[Lost4words]

Good short description of intellectual
dishonesty.

I'd recommend you stand clear of
 discussion forums that you waste not
the time of those who know where they are.

Not sure if you know this but, this is a Christian forum!

 

[Lost4words]

Prove it. And before you even start, faith will be dismissed ans an answer.

I know. But that's irrelevant. Does truth change according to which site it is published on?


Are so close minded that you prefer to carry a wrong opinion - on anything - for the rest of your life, rather than to be corrected?
I invite you to read my signature and wonder:
I prefer to be shown wrong 15 times a day, each day than to be falsely told that I am right and carry even one wrong opinion for the rest of my life.

Wrong opinion in your eye my friend.

For me, i have strong faith in God. Thats all that matters to me.

Faith and science can and do go hand in hand. There is no proof what so ever that we came from apes. We share dna with many animals etc.

Mind you, i have worked with some who may very well have come from an ape background!! Lol

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Not sure if you know this but, this is a Christian forum!

On a section open to non-believers.

There are Christian Only sections of the website.

 

[Lost4words]

On a section open to non-believers.

There are Christian Only sections of the website.

I know. Just stating that as its a Christian forum, one would get a majority of Christian replies

 

[BNR32FAN]

If you expect that a single "nope" will brush away all the evidence for evolution and common ancestry, like the fossil record, homologous genes; comparative anatomy, biogeography, metabolic pathways and so on, then a lot of disappointments will await you. I am going to repeat myself:

At least we have dots to connect. Despite that we have a massive amount of dots, we continue to add dots to that impressive pile of dots. With each fossil dug up, with each genome sequenced, with each metabolic pathway unraveled, there could pop up a dot that brings the whole set of connections down. Yet, after 200 years all dots fit nicely. After 200 years not a single dot is out of order.

Heck you even display the behaviour that is so typical for creationists:

You on the other hand have nothing. Not single fossil, not a single rock layer, not a single gene. You still not even grasped the simple rule of debunking the Theory of Evolution: know thy enemy.
The only thing that creationists display is their ignorance and their incapability of processing even the tiniest piece of new information.

If you expect to bring people closer to christianity by just posting a "nope"... you fail. You only convince me more that christianity has nothing to offer, and that I stay better away from it.

Your logic is flawed, how can anyone prove something doesn’t exist, that doesn’t exist? Your argument is that if I can’t prove something doesn’t exist then it must exist which is foolish. Can you prove that unicorns don’t exist? Can you prove that one eye’d two horned flying purple people eaters don’t exist? No, it’s impossible to prove that something doesn’t exist, that doesn’t exist. Just because humans share DNA with apes doesn’t necessarily mean that they are descendants of apes because all plants & animals share DNA between each other. Humans share DNA with plants, animals, reptiles, birds, insects, and even plants, that doesn’t suggest they are all descendants of each other. The theory of evolution is not a fact it’s a hypothesis because there’s not a shred of conclusive evidence to support it. It’s all based on assumptions. It’s nothing more than scientists’ best guess. Even scientists don’t actually state that evolution is a fact, it’s only the uneducated people that make this claim. Evolution is merely speculation based on the tiny bit of information we have. But there are huge gaps in that information. Like all those pictures you see transitioning from ape to man, it’s all fake, it’s derived from speculation not from actual information we have obtained. There is no fossil record indicating a transition from ape to man, those pictures were drawn to give an example of what scientists predict might’ve taken place. Not what they know that took place. Just like the pictures of Lucy, they don’t know what Lucy actually looked like because it’s nothing more than a handful of bones they found, yet we have these detailed pictures scientists have rendered from their own imaginations. They don’t even have a skull for crying out loud yet we have these detailed pictures of what it supposedly looked like.

As you can see here scientists have managed to create this image based on mere fragments of a few bones. They don’t know the shape of its skull yet we have these detailed pictures that are based on their predictions of what they think it might’ve looked like. Many uneducated people see these pretty pictures and draw the conclusion that this is actual fact and start making statements that not even scientists themselves are making. Scientists never said evolution is a fact, they say it’s a possibility, yet so many people skim over the important pieces of information because they want to troll Christian websites pretending they’re so “educated” and superior because they have nothing better to do with their life. If you don’t believe in God that’s fine, but why go thru all the trouble to seek out Christian websites and make a bunch of claims that you know nothing about? Do you go to children’s websites and start telling them that Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy don’t exist either? Is your life so miserable and pathetic that you have nothing better to do than cause grief to others?

 

[BNR32FAN]

Prove it. And before you even start, faith will be dismissed ans an answer.

I know. But that's irrelevant. Does truth change according to which site it is published on?


Are so close minded that you prefer to carry a wrong opinion - on anything - for the rest of your life, rather than to be corrected?
I invite you to read my signature and wonder:
I prefer to be shown wrong 15 times a day, each day than to be falsely told that I am right and carry even one wrong opinion for the rest of my life.

Prove evolution, scientists have failed to do that for over 140 years. Scientists do not claim that evolution is a fact, your ignorance of this only shows your lack of study on the subject.

 

[Astrid]

Prove it. And before you even start, faith will be dismissed ans an answer.

I know. But that's irrelevant. Does truth change according to which site it is published on?


Are so close minded that you prefer to carry a wrong opinion - on anything - for the rest of your life, rather than to be corrected?
I invite you to read my signature and wonder:
I prefer to be shown wrong 15 times a day, each day than to be falsely told that I am right and carry even one wrong opinion for the rest of my life.

Personally, I find the attitude that " it's impossible for any of
my beliefs to be wrong" to be utterly
contemptible.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Wrong opinion in your eye my friend.

For me, i have strong faith in God. Thats all that matters to me.

Faith and science can and do go hand in hand. There is no proof what so ever that we came from apes. We share dna with many animals etc.

Mind you, i have worked with some who may very well have come from an ape background!! Lol

Perhaps even some in this very thread.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Just because humans share DNA with apes doesn’t necessarily mean that they are descendants of apes because all plants & animals share DNA between each other. Humans share DNA with plants, animals, reptiles, birds, insects, and even plants, that doesn’t suggest they are all descendants of each other.

It's not about sharing the DNA, it's how MUCH of the DNA is shared. And humans share a significant amount of DNA, because we are apes.

The theory of evolution is not a fact it’s a hypothesis because there’s not a shred of conclusive evidence to support it. It’s all based on assumptions.

That's just massively wrong and is a total assumption by you.

There is no fossil record indicating a transition from ape to man, those pictures were drawn to give an example of what scientists predict might’ve taken place. Not what they know that took place. Just like the pictures of Lucy, they don’t know what Lucy actually looked like because it’s nothing more than a handful of bones they found, yet we have these detailed pictures scientists have rendered from their own imaginations. They don’t even have a skull for crying out loud yet we have these detailed pictures of what it supposedly looked like.

You really think that scientists and paleontologists and archeaologists only found the single set of bones and went "Right, job done! Let's go p-off the Creationists then!"?

You really do not know a thing that you're arguing against, do you?