Did Men Really Walk On The Moon?

[The Liturgist]

Another reason among many that I believe men went to the Moon. Here's another one......So what about Apollo 13? So what are we to believe about that. That the scammers thought they'd pull of a hilarious joke and make it seem like a ship on the way to the Moon had a big problem? So you had Apollo 11, 12, 14,15,16, and 17 land on the Moon with men. That's six times. Why in the world would you seek to scam something 6 times.....and 7 if you count Apollo 13. If you're going to do a scam you'd do it maybe once or twice....but 7 times? It would be counter productive to try to pull something like that off. We can therefore conclude I believe that men did what they said that they did. They did land on the Moon at least 6 times and Apollo 13 was a dangerous reality too.

Indeed, I made that argument myself.

 

[Divide]

The only way to find out is to try and there are people willing to take the risk, and the benefits of a human colony on Mars would be extreme. It also offers the opportunity to create a new Christian state where we can be free to practice our religion, much like what North America offered, once we have the habitat technology perfected. There is substantial water at the poles, but it is difficult to land a spacecraft there.

On Mars?

Wow I think I'll just hang around earth instead. Jesus said, Occupy, is that right?
That probably means earth

 

[The Liturgist]

The could have been having problems in low orbit with their secret mission to point a hbble telescope at us from up there or something.

You do realize the Hubble Telescope’s optics are not suited for terrestrial surveillsnce, and we have had much cheaper and better spy satellites than Hubble could ever be since the 1960s? They fall under the purview of the secretive National Reconnaissance Office and the USSF, and equivalent Russian and Chinese agencies (and other nationalities, Israel for instance)”

 

[The Liturgist]

On Mars?

Wow I think I'll just hang around earth instead. Jesus said, Occupy, is that right?
That probably means earth

Um what? No.

“Be fruitful and multiply”

 

[Divide]

You do realize the Hubble Telescope’s optics are not suited for terrestrial surveillsnce, and we have had much cheaper and better spy satellites than Hubble could ever be since the 1960s? They fall under the purview of the secretive National Reconnaissance Office and the USSF, and equivalent Russian and Chinese agencies (and other nationalities, Israel for instance)”

Ok, so the satellite has a different name. Same thing.

 

[Divide]

Um what? No.

“Be fruitful and multiply”

Not many girls on Mars though.

 

[RDKirk]

Because it worth billions of dollars to them? Just a thought.

Wo dont even really know that Apollo 11 had problems and did all that stuff that was broadcast. Oh they could have had a big problem, but who knows where there were at? The could have been having problems in low orbit with their secret mission to point a hbble telescope at us from up there or something.

Uh-oh, our men are danger. If we save them we're heros and will ask for more money since we're so good...

Or

If they dot get saved then we need more money to figure out how to do it right so people wont die.

Either way they win.

Do you understand how much money 1 billion dollars is?

Imagine someone gave you a million dollars and told you to spend $1,000 every day and come back when you ran out of money. You would return, with no money left, in three years. If someone then gave you a billion dollars and you spent $1,000 each day, you would be spending for about 2,740 years before you went broke.

So it could be about the money.

Except that the money supported the DoD ballistic missile program, so too many DoD people also know whether it was actually spent as reported. Even I was involved that much.

Here is an anecdote: I was in Hawaii while the crew of Apollo 17 was at Tripler Army Hospital during their post-mission quarantine. I was visiting the Arizona Memorial at the time the crew, still technically in quarantine, also visited the memorial. The security staff put all the visitors in a side waiting room while the astronauts were on the memorial, but through the windows we could see them arrive on a speedboat and then see them depart. If the entire thing had been faked, the military recovery team would have known. The Tripler staff would have known. And why fake a visit to the Memorial?

 

[RDKirk]

On Mars?

Wow I think I'll just hang around earth instead. Jesus said, Occupy, is that right?
That probably means earth

"Occupy" in that context means "stay busy."

 

[RDKirk]

Well if people are going to deny that spaceflight and the Lunar missions are a hoax, as I see it they might as well claim the SR-71 was a hoax; consistency requires them to say that about the X-15 which was a true spacecraft, but the A-12 Oxcart and the SR-71 were one might say too close for comfort as far as moon landing and space flight denial is concerned. Also consider that much of the moon landing hoax community overlaps with the flat Earth community, which insists that things which actually do exist, such as non-stop flights between the Southern continents, do not exist, despite clear records of these services operating non-stop on routes such as PER-CPT and CPT-EZE, and EZE-SYD and EZE-MEL and the possibility of booking a charter flight over the south pole on EZE-MEL. (BUenos Aires - Melbourne)

I mentioned the computer on the SR-71 and you talked about memory. I don't remember the amount of memory there was on that onboard SEL computer, but it wasn't much compared to my cell phone.

Yet, when the pilot switched on the computer right after the first refuel (which happened as soon as they'd safely launched), the SEL controlled every aspect of the aircraft operation. And it was all running from a big magnetic tape in the airplane, each operation in sequence on the tape.

During the Carter Administration, we had to send each mission plan to the White House for approval prior to launch. For standard missions, we could plan them and send them a couple of weeks in advance. But sometimes we had emergency missions in which we had only a few days to plan and launch. But we still had to send the plan to the White House for approval. Frequently, the White House would want some parameter changed. Maybe fly a couple of miles further from that contested border. Maybe angle the approach so it didn't look so provocative. Maybe spend a bit less time in the "sensitive area."

After making a change to something in the mission plan program, we needed to check the entire program again because sometimes making a change introduced what we called a "spurious input." We'd change one thing but somehow something unintended got changed somewhere else in the program. That might be where an instruction to make a 90-degree right bank got unintendedly changed to a 270-degree right bank, or an altitude correction that was supposed to be 80,000 feet missed a zero. So, we had to go through the entire program tape again. Here is the catch: It took the same amount of time to review the program tape as the mission itself would take. So, if it was an eight-hour mission (the average...they'd range from six to twelve hours), it would take eight hours to review the tape for spurious inputs.

The Carter Administration sometimes delayed so long giving us a change order that we didn't have time to review the tape before launch. So, as the crew came out of their mandatory pre-mission crew rest, we'd have to brief them, "You remember that mission you studied before you went to sleep? Well, it changed while you were sleeping. And we also didn't have time to check the tape. So...while you're up there doing MACH 3, just be ready for the plane to do anything at any moment." Those were eye-bulging, white-knuckle flights.

Most often, the spurious input wasn't serious. Maybe it would just skip an airspeed check or fail to turn a camera on or off (which would be corrected by the subsequent camera command sequence). But if a spurious input was serious, the crew would have to turn off the computer and abort the mission. When the SEL went bad, turning off the computer meant going home.

I remember the first mission we flew after the Reagan Administration came into office. We sent them the mission plan as usual. The days ticked by until we started to get antsy, so I called my contact in DC to see if he could inquire about the delay. A few hours later, he called me back: "The White House said you can go ahead and fly the mission if you want to."

I said, "'If we want to?' What does that mean?"

Essentially, as far as Reagan was concerned, if the overall mission program already had White House approval, he didn't expect us to get his permission for each one. That instantly made my life easier.

 

[Bobber]

The only way to find out is to try and there are people willing to take the risk, and the benefits of a human colony on Mars would be extreme. It also offers the opportunity to create a new Christian state where we can be free to practice our religion, much like what North America offered, once we have the habitat technology perfected. There is substantial water at the poles, but it is difficult to land a spacecraft there.

I've often thought if MAN wanted to create a colony on Mars or something like a dome city you'd see in science fiction then send robotics to build it. Cost a lot less money to make it happen . After two hundred years men could go and populate it. A great city could be built on the Moon the same way too.

 

[Divide]

Except that the money supported the DoD ballistic missile program, so too many DoD people also know whether it was actually spent as reported. Even I was involved that much.

Here is an anecdote: I was in Hawaii while the crew of Apollo 17 was at Tripler Army Hospital during their post-mission quarantine. I was visiting the Arizona Memorial at the time the crew, still technically in quarantine, also visited the memorial. The security staff put all the visitors in a side waiting room while the astronauts were on the memorial, but through the windows we could see them arrive on a speedboat and then see them depart. If the entire thing had been faked, the military recovery team would have known. The Tripler staff would have known. And why fake a visit to the Memorial?

Who said they faked a visit to the memorial?

 

[Divide]

"Occupy" in that context means "stay busy."

Could be! Ok so how about subdue the earth and have dominion over it? That's in
Genesis 1:28
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth..../KJV

Nothing about Mars but it mentions the earth twice. Lol.

 

[Divide]

"The White House said you can go ahead and fly the mission if you want to."

I said, "'If we want to?' What does that mean?"

I think that's code talk for, "You are going to fly that mission".

 

[prodromos]

I've often thought if MAN wanted to create a colony on Mars or something like a dome city you'd see in science fiction then send robotics to build it. Cost a lot less money to make it happen . After two hundred years men could go and populate it. A great city could be built on the Moon the same way too.

I'd want to see SpaceX have Starship land on Mars then return to Earth undamaged a few times before any manned flights. I haven't seen one of the boosters take off again shortly after landing. There will be no concrete or steel landing pad on Mars, and no water deluge system. There won't be 33 engines blasting but there is still a real possibility of engine damage from ricocheting Mars rocks.

 

[TruthInLight]

Ancient civilizations went to the moon in the past. Long before the apollo missions.

Were We On The Moon in 2309 B.C.?

www.bibliotecapleyades.net

The elite people of Germany and Japan went to the Moon and Mars in the 1940s.

Half A Century of The German Moon Base (1942 - 1992)

www.bibliotecapleyades.net

German Secret Societies Colonized Mars in 1940s

In his latest interview on Gaiam TVs Cosmic Disclosure, whistleblower Corey Goode describes in detail the attempts by a secret German space program to establish bases on Mars during the Secon…

exopolitics.org

Depending on what you make of those, you can dismiss them as myth, legend, folktale, etc. Or you dig deep for truth.

The bible says there is nothing new under the sun. Mankind had advanced technology in the past and the ability to go the moon and other planets in outer space. It's kept secret from the common people by the elites of the world. On that first link it lists the civilizations and instances of someone that purportedly went to the moon. It specifies people having visited the moon, going back to the time of Nimrod.

 

[RDKirk]

Could be! Ok so how about subdue the earth and have dominion over it? That's in
Genesis 1:28
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth..../KJV

Nothing about Mars but it mentions the earth twice. Lol.

You're presuming that "earth" means this single planet rather than all creation.

 

[d taylor]

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They just can not go back to the moon. What was it three, four or five years ago they were going back in 2024. Now they can not even go back in 2025. This will give yall more time to just keep making up excuses for them

NASA Artemis moon landing in 2025 "unlikely" as challenges mount, GAO report says

 

[Divide]

You're presuming that "earth" means this single planet rather than all creation.

You're right, I guess I am. So tonight when I look at the moon, I'll be sure to call it the earth. Or if I can get the telescope working good maybe I can see Mars oh sorry, earth.

I bet you Neptune is earth too! Thanks for clearing that up for me.

 

[The Liturgist]

You're presuming that "earth" means this single planet rather than all creation.

Scripture does appear to differentiate between the Earth and objects in the heavens, which is to say, outer space (as opposed to Abraham’s Bosom, or Paradise, where the faithful repose until the General Resurrection, the Last Judgement and for those who are spared, entry into the Life of the World to Come).

 

[RDKirk]

Scripture does appear to differentiate between the Earth and objects in the heavens, which is to say, outer space (as opposed to Abraham’s Bosom, or Paradise, where the faithful repose until the General Resurrection, the Last Judgement and for those who are spared, entry into the Life of the World to Come).

Scripture was written by men who wore the goggles of their time. They had real experiences with a real God, but still saw those experiences through the goggles of their time, and related them that way.

And I'm not saying anything new, I'm just applying the concept across the board.

Are there any nations called "Gog" or "Magog" today? No. But even fundamentalists apply what I just said to scripture all the time.