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Without mentioning Trump or Democracy, why do you support Joe Biden for President.

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That's because there's a genetic connection to stuttering:

It's not as though the data is hard to find. C'mon.

C'mon.

Your study simply shows that it's possible that there may be some genetic connection to stuttering. Indeed, your study concedes that most studies on the topic are underpowered and not statistically significant. Genetically modified stuttering mice aside, this study taken with "someone's uncle stutters" is not "proof" of anything, regardless of what some random "expert" says on the Internet.
 
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Your study simply shows that it's possible that there may be some genetic connection to stuttering.
Well, let's take a look. From the research I linked:
Evidence for genetic factors in persistent developmental stuttering has accumulated over the past four decades, and the genes that underlie this disorder are starting to be identified. The genes identified to date, all point to deficits in intracellular trafficking in this disorder.

Fact is, Biden has been afflicted with stuttering since childhood and was bullied for it. So he's used to it, and since most Americans think it's despicable to make fun of stuttering, I'm astonished that some republicans would suggest it's some kind of equivalency to Donald Trump's ongoing mental difficulties. Most people aren't that gullible.


Read more carefully, and this won't happen.
 
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So you're just going to ignore the fact that your chosen "expert" has never personally interacted with the President?
I'm more persuaded by the findings in a respected journal.

Even if you refused to accept the findings of scientiststs who have identified the genes responsible, the fact is that Biden has had to struggle with stuttering since childhood. How you figure that makes him fair game for ridicule it a mystery.
 
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Sure I can. YouTube has plenty of compilations of Biden's countless gaffes
Anything on the level of H-bombing hurricanes, injecting disinfectant, George Washington seizing airports, or windmills causing cancer?

No? Can you imagine what the MAGA guys would do if Biden said things like that?
 
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Well, let's take a look. From the research I linked:
Evidence for genetic factors in persistent developmental stuttering has accumulated over the past four decades, and the genes that underlie this disorder are starting to be identified. The genes identified to date, all point to deficits in intracellular trafficking in this disorder.

I'm genuinely curious if you understand what you post. It doesn't seem so...
 
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Anything on the level of H-bombing hurricanes, injecting disinfectant, George Washington seizing airports, or windmills causing cancer?

Um, there's lots of creepy hair-sniffing and public touching/groping of females, inappropriate comments, falling up stairs multiple times, falling asleep in the middle of "the most important" meeting, the inability to dismount a stationary bicycle...

None of which, you'll note, have anything to do with stuttering.
 
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The original photograph, though considerably tamer, stirred a good deal of controversy in 2015 nonetheless. Several news outlets criticized Biden for getting a little too close to Carter during the ceremony, with NBC News even asking if Biden had engaged in "Veep Creep":
The video I posted was not altered in any way, and it was very much "veep creep", something Biden has done repeatedly.
So why did the MAGA people feel the need to fake a picture. We both know why. The real thing just didn't show what they were trying to claim.

Yep. And Biden actually fell up the stairs 2-3 times trying to board a plane. Both of them seem rather unsteady on their feet.
Wouldn't it be a hoot to have a bicycle race between Trump and Biden. Assuming they have a bike that would hold Trump.

Anyone that thinks Biden is in good shape mentally and physically is simply not paying attention to reality.
Being mentally and physically better than Donald Trump is a pretty low bar. But Vladimir Putin underestimated Biden, and now the very thing he sought to avoid, the enlargement and strengthening of NATO is a fact. But then, the indications are that Putin is not the man he was a few years ago.
 
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In my 40+ years of riding bikes, I have never fallen when simply dismounting a bicycle. Your characterization that "anyone" who rides bikes has fallen on their dismount is laughable nonsense.
Sorry, I've seen it too many times for that story to work. No doubt Biden isn't as good as he used to be physically. He's just in much better shape than Trump.
 
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Well, let's take a look. From the research I linked:
Evidence for genetic factors in persistent developmental stuttering has accumulated over the past four decades, and the genes that underlie this disorder are starting to be identified. The genes identified to date, all point to deficits in intracellular trafficking in this disorder.

I'm genuinely curious if you understand what you post. It doesn't seem so..
The research has identified a number of genes that cause the disorder. The data indicate that impeded movement of packets of chemicals within cells is critical to stuttering. "Intracellular" refers to processes within a cell and "trafficking" has to do with movement of chemicals in the cell.

Landes Bioscience; 2000-2013.

Overview of Intracellular Compartments and Trafficking Pathways

Here, we summarize progress made during the last two decades in our understanding of bi-directional transport pathways between intracellular compartments. The accumulated knowledge of intracellular compartments and pathways that connect them formed the basis for advancements made in our understanding of the molecular machinery components, mechanisms and regulation of intracellular trafficking. Whereas the major compartments and pathways are well defined, less is known about the dynamic nature and biogenesis of compartments.

For some reason, I thought you knew about these.
 
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But you can't show us any? I think I know why. I'll grant you that "much better than Trump" is setting the bar pretty low, but still...

Wasn't there a clip of Biden telling people it might help to inject themselves with disinfectant.
Or his commendation of George Washington for seizing the airports at the Battle of Yorktown.
Or his brilliant idea to use an H-bomb to "disrupt" a hurricane.
Or his claim that you need ID to buy cereal.
Or his belief that LED bulbs and windmills cause cancer.
Or... "
“You know, a poll just came out that I am the most popular person in the history of the Republican Party—92 per cent. Beating Lincoln. I beat our Honest Abe," Trump said."

Wait... this is a list of stupid things Trump believes. Sorry....
Trump is not currently the occupant so how does your trashing of Trump negate the obvious problems in the White House? Maybe just a diversion because there is no real defense for the obvious.
 
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Sorry, I've seen it too many times for that story to work. No doubt Biden isn't as good as he used to be physically. He's just in much better shape than Trump.
IMO your time would be more productive promoting Gavin or RFK Jr. Because the "Big Guy" has no shot at being the Democrat's choice for 24.

PS and its not because he stutters!
 
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Well, the U.S. is in an irreversible death spiral anyway so it's kind of entertaining to watch it's leader being lead around like a small child by the Easter Bunny.
 
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So why did the MAGA people feel the need to fake a picture.

I have no idea why the MAGA people feel the need to do anything. I'm not a "MAGA people". I posted an unedited video of what your own source called "Veep Creep" and you deflected rather than addressing the fact that Biden felt it necessary to once again sniff some female.

We both know why.

Indeed.

Wouldn't it be a hoot to have a bicycle race between Trump and Biden. Assuming they have a bike that would hold Trump.

Fat-shaming Trump. A-OK. Pointing out clear and obvious cognitive decline in Biden? VERBOTEN!
 
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Sorry, I've seen it too many times for that story to work.

It's amazing that you don't believe it's possible for someone to dismount a bike without falling on their face. But then, when you're trying to defend the indefensible, lunacy ensues.
 
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Sigh. From your fact-check:

The original photograph, though considerably tamer, stirred a good deal of controversy in 2015 nonetheless. Several news outlets criticized Biden for getting a little too close to Carter during the ceremony, with NBC News even asking if Biden had engaged in "Veep Creep":
Yeah, World News Daily and whatshisname... um.. Tucker Carlson. There's a difference, although it's probably lost on some on the far right...

This is what the real thing looks like...
Some social media users pointed out what they interpreted as an awkward moment between former President Donald Trump and swimmer Riley Gaines at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) on Saturday in Dallas.
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Trump tried to kiss her on the cheek when she approached the podium, but she appeared in the eyes of many observers to experience some discomfort with it. Political commentator and attorney Ron Filipkowski described her as flinching and pulling away from the ex-president on Twitter on Sunday.



Now, that's creepy. And no one had to put up an edited fake; the real thing is creepy enough.
 
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The research has identified a number of genes that cause the disorder.

And the genetically modified stuttering mice prove it I tell ya!
Somehow, real scientists with real data are more convincing than your mice.

Bottom line? Mocking Biden for stuttering pretty much backfired on the few people low enough to do it. He's had to deal with it since childhood; it doesn't bother him. And decent people are repelled by such mocking.
 
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Somehow, real scientists with real data are more convincing than your mice.

My mice? Your study talks about genetically modified stuttering mice. You seem very unfamiliar with it...
 
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It's amazing that you don't believe it's possible for someone to dismount a bike without falling on their face.
It used to be amazing that you can't present an argument without misrepresenting what other say. But now, we pretty much expect that from you.
 
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Sorry, I've seen it too many times for that story to work. No doubt Biden isn't as good as he used to be physically. He's just in much better shape than Trump.
I am not a Trump supporter, but to say that Biden is in better shape than him is manifestly wrong

Biden trips, gets lost on stage, avoids press conferences and public appearances, forgets things, and makes silly statements. He appears glassy-eyed

We can laugh about the silly things he says, but some of it has consequences. He was told not to call Xi Xinping a dictator after their latest summit, and went ahead and called the guy a dictator anyway. Last year he came right out and said the US would send in troops to defend Taiwan--which was not official policy. Dumb comments like this can cause WWIII

Even Obama viewed Joe as basically incompetent and corrupt

I don't like Gavin Newsom at all, but I would be a lot more comfortable with him in the Whitehouse than Joe. We can't have the US run by a guy who isn't physically or mentally fit for office. It is irresponsible and cynical for Democrats to continue to support him
 
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