The Chosen series

[Bible Highlighter]

Sure but there are two ways to go about it. He was not like the demanding Pharisees in His approach

You need to do the study of Jesus rebuking others. Then compare that with the Chosen and see if it matches.
This is the only way you can see that the show is not even a resemblance of Scripture. The show is false.

 

[timothyu]

This is an example of the call to repentance. So again, the Chosen is unbiblical and will lead people to think they don’t have to repent when they are in sin.

Sorry but the whole series so far is about the change (repentance) in the Chosen. Repentance isn't a magical flash. It requires first understanding of how we are backwards to the Kingdom, then the slow progression into adapting to a new lifestyle unfamiliar to our lives. They learned as they go.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Sorry but the whole series so far is about the change (repentance) in the Chosen. Repentance isn't a magical flash. It requires first understanding of how we are backwards to the Kingdom, then the slow progression into adapting to a new lifestyle unfamiliar to our lives. They learned as they go.

We see Jesus recognize others seeking forgiveness with God in Luke 18:9-14, and Luke 15:11-32.
Again, I make my case for repentance in the thread link I gave to you before. Repent means to seek forgiveness with the LORD with the intention that you will not do such a sin again. I make my case with the Bible in that thread. For example: The Bible talks about how you can repent sitting in sackcloth and ashes. How does that work in your view of repentance? The short answer is that… “It doesn’t.” Again, this is why many today really just follow the crowd and they really don’t study the Bible on their own with the Spirit on such matters. Granted, I am not saying I always get everything right. But I do allow myself to be corrected by what the Word says. Most today just either ignore what the Bible says when they don’t like it or they try to change what it says.

 

[ozso]

Nothing shallow about this show.

After watching some clips I see that now.

 

[timothyu]

Repent means to seek forgiveness with the LORD with the intention that you will not do such a sin again.

The only sin there is is putting our will (based on self interest) ahead of the Father's will. That self interest creates all the 'things' we label as 'sin' while ignoring it's true meaning

The Bible talks about how you can repent sitting in sackcloth and ashes.

Humbleness. No longer seeing our self will as sufficient.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

After watching some clips I see that now.

Jesus says it’s not about rules on the Chosen when he is confronted about God’s laws.

Watch this video here:

 

[Bible Highlighter]

The only sin there is is putting our will (based on self interest) ahead of the Father's will. That self interest creates all the 'things' we label as 'sin' while ignoring it's true meaning

Humbleness. No longer seeing our self will as sufficient.

Well, first, your not addressing my points involving the Bible, and you are rambling on without any Scripture verses. Second, you are defending a sinful TV series that is clearly ecumenical. Are you ecumenical?

 

[ozso]

Jesus says it’s not about rules on the Chosen when he is confronted about God’s laws.

Watch this video here:

I simply acknowledged that it's not as pop-culture superficial as I expected.

 

[ozso]

Well, first, your not addressing my points involving the Bible, and you are rambling on without any Scripture verses. Second, you are defending a sinful TV series that is clearly ecumenical. Are you ecumenical?

Christian Forums is ecumenical.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

I simply acknowledged that it's not as pop-culture superficial as I expected.

Compared to reading the Bible it is superficial and false. It downgrades the deity of Jesus Christ. It attacks the real Jesus of the Bible and replaces it with a false Jesus that many today like. There are even study guides you can get for the Chosen series. Just a show? Why are there study guides?

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Christian Forums is ecumenical.

Not all posters here are trying to fellowship with everyone of different denominations and neither do all posters here claim they agree with the denominations of others. The interface and creators that make the platform may be ecumenical, the many Christians who use the platform are not all ecumenical. There is no rule saying you have to be ecumenical, either. In either case, at the end of the day, we have to see what the Bible says on such matters. Are you ecumenical? Do you see truth in Catholicism, Mormonism, etc. as just many branches that lead to the same destination? If so, what Bible verse or passage encourages such thinking?

 

[ozso]

Compared to reading the Bible it is superficial and false. It downgrades the deity of Jesus Christ. It attacks the real Jesus of the Bible and replaces it with a false Jesus that many today like. There are even study guides you can get for the Chosen series. Just a show? Why are there study guides?

My opinion regarding that is seen in my longstanding profile quote:

"Biblical Jesus: Preaches God's righteousness. Warns of sin, judgement and hell. Hated and despised by the world. Exalts God the Father's will. Offends the world with the truth.

Secular Jesus: Preaches only on love. Never says anything negative. Loved and accepted by the world. Serves your will, not God's will. Hates to offend you and others.

Which one is your Jesus?"

 

[ozso]

Not all posters here are trying to fellowship with everyone of different denominations and neither do all posters here claim they agree with the denominations of others. The interface and creators that make the platform may be ecumenical, the many Christians who use the platform are not all ecumenical. There is no rule saying you have to be ecumenical, either. In either case, at the end of the day, we have to see what the Bible says on such matters. Are you ecumenical? Do you see truth in Catholicism, Mormonism, etc. as just many branches that lead to the same destination? If so, what Bible verse or passage encourages such thinking?

The rule is all Christians have to agree to the Nicene Creed and in that regard there is ecumenicity. Personally I'd like to see more ecumenicity among Christians and less tribalism. Tribalism is contrary to 1 Corinthians 12:12-27.

Catholicism has been around for 2000 years. Mormonism was started by a con-artist in 1830. Catholicism teaches the same soteriology as you do. Uses the same verses you do.

 

[Lost4words]

You are missing the point. We have a portrayal of Jesus and His followers not seeking forgiveness of God over their sin of drunkenness. Jesus did not rebuke them, and neither do we see them seeking forgiveness of the LORD. This is what needed to happen if the show was an accurate portrayal of even the basic essence of principles of Scripture. But it doesn’t even get that right because it is not really entirely based on the principles of the Bible. The show is presenting another Jesus with false messages.

But I am not surprised you don’t see it because you do not understand this basic principle in the Bible. Again, try reading Proverbs 28:13, 1 John 1:9, and 1 John 1:7 sometime in prayer to the LORD.

Its just a show........a drama. You dont have to keep watching it.

I bet many have been turned towards Jesus because of it.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Make sure you have the Book of Mormon open to look for more future references. I am sure it is only a matter of time before we will see another one. Also, keep in mind the actor who plays Jesus has a huge Catholic following and he leads them into RCC practices because of his celebrity status because of the series. So as you act as if this Jesus is the real one, the actual actor is leading others into the practice of Catholicism when off screen. But hey, if one is Catholic, or ecumenical, I guess it does not matter.

Oh, don't you worry about that. I have a copy of the Book of Mormon, so I'll be on the lookout for whatever fictions might be borrowed and adapted from the Book of Mormon into the existing script (or text). I'm smart like that.

I'm also Trans-denominational (meaning "I don't give a rat's petuti about denominational differences as long as folks are generally Trinitarian in the traditional sense and mutually caring people.") So, if a brother or sister, such as the lead actor in The Chosen, is RCC, that's fine by me. I'm not overly concerned about it.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

This is what a Mormon said:

I was introduced to Dallas Jenkins through his now famous short film “The Shepherd”. It was a dry, hot August afternoon in 2017 when I received an email from VidAngel’s head of public relations, Matthew Faraci.

The email subject read only: “short film”. The body of the email was void of text, just a Vimeo link. Nineteen minutes later I was blinking away tears as I watched the credits roll on my old MacBook.

Over the next few hours, a flood of crazy ideas poured into my mind. Novel ideas that no film production had used before, ever. Without even having met Dallas, God had already inspired the basic path to raise the money we needed to turn this short film into a high budget TV series.

The next day I told my co-founder and brother, Neal, about The Shepherd. He dismissed it immediately, “shows about Jesus Christ are for churches to produce, not VidAngel.”

“Just watch it.” I responded.

Nineteen minutes later he pulled off his headphones and said, “this is why we made VidAngel.”

Three years later we have received hundreds of messages and letters from people upset that “Mormons” are part of this world-changing project. Likewise, we receive lots of skepticism from Latter-day Saints deeply concerned that we have given full creative control to Evangelicals, who they think hate us.

To both Latter-day Saints and Evangelicals I reply: if Jesus can call his ancient apostles from a range of backgrounds, including an apostate tax collector on the one hand and stubborn, illiterate fishermen on the other, why can’t he call Evangelicals, Catholics, Jews, and even Latter-day Saints to the creation of a TV series about His life and ministry?


I will probably see a thousand more messages from people telling me I am a “cultist” and that I believe in a “different Jesus”. I will certainly have many more Latter-day Saints refuse to trust the show because the message is controlled by Evangelicals. But one thing can be certain, they can’t diminish MY relationship with Jesus. He has redeemed me. And it won’t take away MY love for Him or THE CHOSEN. Hate or love, I am offering the gifts God has given me to help THE CHOSEN reach a billion people worldwide.

THE CHOSEN’s central image is a school of fish. Interestingly, Rabbi Sobel also once compared the series to a net, one that could gather all kinds of people (Matthew 13:25). In addition, John 10:16 states, “And other sheep I have which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and there shall be one fold and one shepherd.” God is going to “gather all kinds of fish.”

Finally, a unique thought from a Latter-day Saint perspective: I believe THE CHOSEN may well be, in small part, the fulfillment of a little recognized Book of Mormon prophecy. Let me explain.

Eighteen years ago, as a missionary ministering in Cork, Ireland, I was studying the Book of Mormon when 1 Nephi 14:14 jumped off the page with intensity.

You can read the rest of the article at the following source link.

Source:

https://medium.com/@jeffrey.harmon/why-i-as-a-latter-day-saint-am-helping-evangelicals-create-the-hit-tv-series-the-chosen-4bb02971a861

I suppose next you'll be the censor for delineating exactly which "Jesus" movies or shows can be viewed by orthodox Christians. I suppose I'll have to pan any additional viewings of the old Jesus of Nazareth show I like from the 1970s because it has an RCC backing?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

But this is just mindless talk on your part. You are not presenting any Scripture to prove your case at all. This is because you cannot do so because there is no such Bible verse that aligns with your false thinking here. Se my recent post to you (Post #236). I post a verse that refutes this false thinking.

You need to stop your deprecation of other, fellow Trinitarian Christians. It's not becoming.

No one here HAS to agree with you and whatever specific doctrinal formulations you hold from your own church denomination (which I'm sure has it's own fault lines in there somewhere). This means we don't have to agree with whatever your favorite pastor or Bible teachers say in order for us to consider ourselves "Christian." Of course, the reason no one really has to listen to you spiel here is that no human Christian (or church) is perfect. So, there's little need for you or anyone else to badger other Christian folks. Most of us here read the bible too, and for the most part, ..........................you're preaching to the choir.

 

[ozso]

I suppose next you'll be the censor for delineating exactly which "Jesus" movies or shows can be viewed by orthodox Christians. I suppose I'll have to pan any additional viewings of the old Jesus of Nazareth show I like from the 1970s because it has an RCC backing?

The Passion of the Christ 2004 as well. Mel Gibson is a Catholic. Plus there's other stuff to hold against him.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

The Passion of the Christ 2004 as well. Mel Gibson is a Catholic. Plus there's other stuff to hold against him.

Yeah. There was that one too.

But you know, the irony is that I'll bet I won't get any credit from Bible Highlighter for the fact that I've never seen Mel Gibson's, The Passion of the Christ.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

There are study guides!
That is incredible, agreed why would there be study guides for a show? WOW

That sort of thing isn't anything new. I remember there being study guides for the T.V. mini-series based on the book of Acts that was done 10 years ago. Not that I ever used any of them............................no, I just watched the show.