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Trans Manifesto Leaked

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"Right now, the documents are with Metro Nashville police as they are embroiled in a lawsuit over their release. The Covernant Church and the families have sued to keep the documents from the public. Right now, the case is before the Tennessee Court of Appeals." LINKAGE

1st Amendment.

Anyone with access to the materials is absolutely allowed publish them or share them as part of the news media.

https://www.newschannel5.com/news/c...Vrx3BwLwRgB9rtLgvt2kDAyI20yLQGSkNxTjKT8Qom1WU
perhaps there's another word/phrase for releasing material still under the detrmination of the court system.
Disgusting is the first word that comes to my mind.

I would just call it a human right. Freedom of the press.



whether that should be done is being determined in the courts..

I don't think the government should have exclusive purview to censor words intended to be shared publicly.

Local news only showed blurred images. What was reported is that it appears to be material that was in the shooter's car being photographed into evidence. Three pages from two notebooks was my understanding but I readily admit that I could be wrong on the number of notebooks.
update for source

I'll take your word on it.
https://www.newschannel5.com/news/c...uYEQ3vrummnF84NVfBB9C8U10gfKLA5XR0FQ9S4MZgggk
as an aside.. I'm at the location depicted in the thumbnail photo in the OP 3 to 5 times a week. I was there earlier this afternoon. This story is local for me.

And?
 
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Same can be said of any such individuals, yet I find it dismissive to call someone crazy and not consider other possibilities.
Well, I am not actually disagreeing with you; if someone should obtain access to the “writings” then, by all means, publish them for those who wish to see into the “thinking” of someone who convinced themselves that shooting a bunch of people would be a “good idea”.
 
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Guns have not changed. They have not become evil, hateful, or crazy. Guns are the same as they have always been. Guns do not write manifestos about hating and murdering white people. Guns have never woke up one morning and become excited about mowing down white Christian children.
It is not guns. It is people who have lost the value of life and are out of touch with the reality of life and human existence. It is people who write manifestos about mowing down white Christian children. Why is life of so little value? Partially because we have slain 65 million children in the womb. Life is not precious. It is disposable. People have become mean and ugly. People kill people. Guns are merely the weapon of choice. Some people use knives. Some people have used automobiles. The evil is that these folks think they are justified in what they do. They are mad because the world does not accept and play along with their fantasies. They see Christianity as the root of that rejection. They may be correct about that. But it certainly does not excuse and certainly not justify their hate for Christians. The DOJ hushed up and hid this manifesto. Even now, Facebook has censored it from their platform. Get to the root of the problem. The Bible says we will be hated for three things.
The name of Jesus.
The Word of God.
For righteousness sake.
This, I think would be the third.
 
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I'm sure we all recall the trans shooter of a Tennessee private Christian school.


Not difficult to see why the media suppressed this...and the administration. It's filled with the far left hatred of whites and their privilege...a combination the mainstream media had pumped into the face of the public for years now.

Thoughts?
We have seen the government suppresses information and also propagandizes more than we ever thought. A dose of healthy skepticism is in order. People need to search many sources online themselves and not depend on the main stream medias ... all of them are bias one way or another.
 
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I'm sure we all recall the trans shooter of a Tennessee private Christian school.


Not difficult to see why the media suppressed this...and the administration. It's filled with the far left hatred of whites and their privilege...a combination the mainstream media had pumped into the face of the public for years now.

Thoughts?
My thoughts are we need better gun control, that AR-15s should be banned, and that anybody who wants to point fingers about how a manifesto by an unbalanced person who happens to be trans is somehow proof of the destructiveness of liberal ideologies are all awfully silent about ideologies and manifestos that came out courtesy of those who brought to us Pulse, Columbine, Uvalde, Lewiston, Las Vegas, Utah, San Bernardino, Newton, and that little January 6 incident.

I also find it suuuuuuper interesting that some people on this thread who say in other threads that there are only two genders, your physiological gender is your real gender, there is no such thing as trans people, they won’t refer to people as trans even if they request it, etc etc… Strangely have no problem repeatedly and exclusively identifying this person as trans… Even going so far as correcting people who misgender the shooter and making this the shooter’s primary identifying trait. I wonder why that is… Question mark intentionally not used, because we all know why.

*Insert Kermit sipping tea gif here.*
 
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Guns have not changed. They have not become evil, hateful, or crazy. Guns are the same as they have always been. Guns do not write manifestos about hating and murdering white people. Guns have never woke up one morning and become excited about mowing down white Christian children.
It is not guns. It is people who have lost the value of life and are out of touch with the reality of life and human existence. It is people who write manifestos about mowing down white Christian children. Why is life of so little value? Partially because we have slain 65 million children in the womb. Life is not precious. It is disposable. People have become mean and ugly. People kill people. Guns are merely the weapon of choice. Some people use knives. Some people have used automobiles. The evil is that these folks think they are justified in what they do. They are mad because the world does not accept and play along with their fantasies. They see Christianity as the root of that rejection. They may be correct about that. But it certainly does not excuse and certainly not justify their hate for Christians. The DOJ hushed up and hid this manifesto. Even now, Facebook has censored it from their platform. Get to the root of the problem. The Bible says we will be hated for three things.
The name of Jesus.
The Word of God.
For righteousness sake.
This, I think would be the third.
Yes, guns haven’t changed at all. The ones used during the American Revolution are exactly the same as the ones used by mass shooters today. 100% the same. No differences. At all.
 
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It would be good to see that same energy the next time the shooter is a white male.
Interesting logic jump there. If 98% of the shootings were done by Trans people and 75% of them were white, would you say “let’s not discuss why most mass shooters are white trans people…”

Something tells me that since we’re currently at one white trans shooter and you opened a thread to delve into the psychology of it, the answer would be “no,” especially given you also managed to slide in some anti-Muslim anecdotes too. Interesting you didn’t mention, nor ever seem to mention, the instances where you think “if only somebody had a gun to shoot this church-going, self-professed Christian who’s off to murder his ex.”
 
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Interesting logic jump there. If 98% of the shootings were done by Trans people and 75% of them were white, would you say “let’s not discuss why most mass shooters are white trans people…”

I think you missed the point of that.


Something tells me that since we’re currently at one white trans shooter and you opened a thread to delve into the psychology of it, the answer would be “no,” especially given you also managed to slide in some anti-Muslim anecdotes too.

Anti-muslim anecdote?


Interesting you didn’t mention, nor ever seem to mention, the instances where you think “if only somebody had a gun to shoot this church-going, self-professed Christian who’s off to murder his ex.”

If that was the example that came to mind I'd have used it.
 
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I think you missed the point of that.




Anti-muslim anecdote?




If that was the example that came to mind I'd have used it.
As I said, super interesting.
 
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My thoughts are we need better gun control, that AR-15s should be banned,

Ok.

This typical position is often taken by people who don't know what an AR-15 is...

So what do you think would happen if AR-15s were banned (especially with all the current AR-15s grandfathered in)?

Would these school shootings end? Or would shooters simply pick a different unbanned weapon?




and that anybody who wants to point fingers about how a manifesto by an unbalanced person who happens to be trans is somehow proof of the destructiveness of liberal ideologies

We don't really need proof of the destructiveness of "liberal ideologies".

I think "leftist ideologies or pseudo-Marxist" ideologies would be more accurate today.

are all awfully silent about ideologies and manifestos that came out courtesy of those who brought to us Pulse,
Critiqued.


Columbine,

A bit before my time here.


Not aware of any manifesto there.



Lewiston,

Motive?


Las Vegas,

Motive?



More specific?


San Bernardino,

Critiqued.



Motive?


and that little January 6 incident.

That's not a shooting incident, but it's really cute you threw it in. Great sense of humor lol.

I also find it suuuuuuper interesting that some people on this thread who say in other threads that there are only two genders,

Uh huh.

your physiological gender is your real gender,

Uh huh. Real quick....what's physiological gender? Is that the same as biological sex?

there is no such thing as trans people,

Uh huh.

they won’t refer to people as trans even if they request it, etc etc…

Well it is a request.


Strangely have no problem repeatedly and exclusively identifying this person as trans…

They are trans. If you recall the media first identified the shooter as female...then the trans community was outraged.

The trans community insisted this shooter be identified as trans lol. Remember?

Even going so far as correcting people who misgender the shooter and making this the shooter’s primary identifying trait. I wonder why that is…


In case you forgot...

I promise, I don't care how you refer to the shooter.


Question mark intentionally not used, because we all know why.

*Insert Kermit sipping tea gif here.*

Swish.
 
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Yes, guns haven’t changed at all. The ones used during the American Revolution are exactly the same as the ones used by mass shooters today. 100% the same. No differences. At all.
I think you missed the point....
 
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Yes, guns haven’t changed at all. The ones used during the American Revolution are exactly the same as the ones used by mass shooters today. 100% the same. No differences. At all.
Have guns become sentient and auto-mobile since then?
 
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There but for the grace of God go I.
I hope angry people who read this manifesto don't get motivated to do the same thing. It is about pent up resentment and unresolved anger. Some want to reduce or eliminate their anger while others seem to use their anger for fuel, and seek out things that anger them. (And often create threads in online forums).

We had a president recently who uses anger and fear as a tool to manipulate people. Counterproductive and dangerous. And possibly why these instances increased during and after his tenure.
 
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Well, I am not actually disagreeing with you; if someone should obtain access to the “writings” then, by all means, publish them for those who wish to see into the “thinking” of someone who convinced themselves that shooting a bunch of people would be a “good idea”.
In NZ when we had that Muslim massacre, our govt did their very best to suppress the name of the killer and his manifesto. Rather than reward his approach to promotion of himself and his ideas on the world stage.
 
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In NZ when we had that Muslim massacre, our govt did their very best to suppress the name of the killer and his manifesto. Rather than reward his approach to promotion of himself and his ideas on the world stage.
In the states, the details of such events are usually suppressed because the Press/Law does not want the ethnic group of the perpetrator to become stigmatized. Unless the perp was a white male, in which case the FBI will create a list, the press will do a 3 part docuseries about it, and try to tie the individual with Trump. It is pretty interesting to watch them do this. The topic at hand is one such instance. The perp was trans, and the victims were Christians—a double reason to suppress the details of the event.
Extraordinary times to live in.
 
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The perp was trans, and the victims were Christians—a double reason to suppress the details of the event.
Now that the details have been unauthorizedly unsuppressed, it looks like the murders had nothing to do with the perp being trans or the victims being Christian.
 
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