Hamas-Israel News Thread

[Hank77]

Do you have any idea what are the living conditions in there? They do not even have houses or water in many places. Bomb shelters...

Why haven't the people gotten together and built neighborhood bomb shelters? Surely if they worked together they could accomplish it.

Why won't Egypt help them? Why won't Jordon help them?

I don't know the answers to these questions, do you?

 

[Hank77]

They are innocent, if they did not do it. What is so hard for you about this simple concept to grasp it? You know what, simply forget that its Israel and place for example Iraq or Egypt or Syria instead, there. Or Russia or any country you do not like.

Your emotional bias will hopefully go away and you will see the error in your views.

Let's do that.

If Ukraine had attacked Russia, when Russia hadn't attacked them, and done to the Russian people what Hamas did to Israel's people then it would be understandable for Russia to fight back and fight back until the hostages were returned and Ukraine surrendered completely and publically worldwide. I would defend them in their fight.

 

[trophy33]

Let's do that.

If Ukraine had attacked Russia, when Russia hadn't attacked them, and done to the Russian people what Hamas did to Israel's people then it would be understandable for Russia to fight back and fight back until the hostages were returned and Ukraine surrendered completely and publically worldwide. I would defend them in their fight.

But this is not the current situation. In your example, nothing illegal from the Russian side was mentioned. Is this how you see Israel? Everything done right?

 

[Landon Caeli]

They are innocent, if they did not do it. What is so hard for you about this simple concept to grasp it? You know what, simply forget that its Israel and place for example Iraq or Egypt or Syria instead, there. Or Russia or any country you do not like.

Your emotional bias will hopefully go away and you will see the error in your views.

They're NOT innocent, when stand there and do nothing to help capture or isolate Hamas terrorists.

..You don't always have to be the principal offender to be part of the problem.

 

[trophy33]

Is that video going to tell me why Egypt and Jordon won't help Gaza? And will I be able to verify this information with another source?
Have you verified this video information with another source/s?

It will not answer all your specific questions, but it will give you more information about the situation. If you want to verify it, verify it.

 

[trophy33]

They're NOT innocent, when stand there and do nothing to help capture Hamas terrorists.

Thats not how innocence is established, according to law. If you saw somebody with AK-47 to kill somebody on the street and you are a normal man, woman or child and do (understandably) nothing, it does not mean you are right to die.

Where do you come with these weird ideas from? Do you establish a collective guilt also for Israelis? Or just for Arabs?

 

[Hank77]

Yes, if the other option is massive killing of innocent people.

Letting these murderers get away would cause even more innocent people to die if they are not stopped in their madness.

Could you explain some of the more complex issues, please?

 

[civilwarbuff]

Over the years, Journeyman Pictures has evolved into one of the leading factual distributors globally, specializing in documentary distribution and co-production. The company has strong relationships with all the world's leading broadcasters and has achieved direct partnerships with Apple, Google, and Amazon.

So basically they distribute anything they can make money on, right? I mean, that's what film distributors do. But who actually MADE this so called 'documentary' film and more importantly what is their agenda for making it. I don't see that in there......

 

[trophy33]

Letting these murderers get away would cause even more innocent people to die if they are not stopped in their madness.

You cannot hunt evil people through bodies of innocent people. What country do you live in, to have such mindset?

 

[trophy33]

So basically they distribute anything they can make money on, right? I mean, that's what film distributors do. But who actually MADE this so called 'documentary' film and more importantly what is their agenda for making it. I don't see that in there......

Will I be far away from truth to speculate that if it was for Israel, you would defend it, but because its showing the bad things Israel does, you try to attack it?

 

[civilwarbuff]

Will I be far away from truth to speculate that if it was for Israel, you would defend it, but because its against, you attack it?

Are you actually interested in truth or just in taking side?

I want TRUTHFUL information from sources that can be corroborated instead of some fly-by-night outfit that has a political agenda to push. Are you willing to provide such sources?......or should we just take it that 'Journeyman Films' is your highest standard?

 

[Landon Caeli]

Thats not how innocence is established, according to law. If you saw somebody with AK-47 to kill somebody on the street and you are a normal man, woman or child and do (understandably) nothing, it does not mean you are right to die.

Where do you come with these weird barbaric ideas from? Do you establish a collective guilt also for Israelis? Or just for Arabs?

I shouldn't have to tell you three times that I don't think they deserve to die. Make the claim again, and see what happens.

 

[Hank77]

It will not answer all your specific questions, but it will give you more information about the situation. If you want to verify it, verify it. I saw nothing to verify, it was on a video.

I can see now that you are naive about the deceptive videos, articles, photographs, etc. used by all kinds of deceivers. My goodness, if I believed something just because a video said so I'd be homeless now.
Why don't you believe videos that support Israel?

 

[trophy33]

I want TRUTHFUL information from sources that can be corroborated instead of some fly-by-night outfit that has a political agenda to push. Are you willing to provide such sources?......or should we just take it that 'Journeyman Films' is your highest standard?

Sources of what? What dont you believe, specifically, from the documentary?

 

[trophy33]

I shouldn't have to tell you three times that I don't think they deserve to die. Make the claim again, and see what happens.

If you imply it again, I will make the claim again.

 

[trophy33]

I can see now that you are naive about the deceptive videos, articles, photographs, etc. used by all kinds of deceivers. My goodness, if I believed something just because a video said so I'd be homeless now.
Why don't you believe videos that support Israel?

What videos that support Israel I do not believe? Be specific.

Why do you automatically believe its made by deceivers? Do you believe its impossible for Israel to do bad things?

 

[Hank77]

You cannot hunt evil people through bodies of innocent people.

What does that even mean?

So you must be against Ukraine defending itself against Russia?

 

[Landon Caeli]

If you imply it again, I will make the claim again.

Never implied it to begin with. And you can't prove I did.

 

[trophy33]

What does that even mean?

So you must be against Ukraine defending itself against Russia?

You cannot kill innocent people to get a murderer.

No, I am not against defense, I am against offense that is against international law.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Sources of what? What dont you believe, specifically, from the documentary?

Until I know who made this, if the claims can be corroborated, and what agenda they have (everyone has one), I can't answer. Can you provide that information for us? I you can't or won't then you are simply wasting everyone's time here......unless that is an agenda......