Hamas-Israel News Thread

[wing2000]

No it's not at all. The war crime is in using them as such.

"there are three principles for conduct in war:

• Discrimination (distinguishing between enemy combatants and non-combatants)
• Proportionality (the harms must be proportional to the gains)
• Actions must be militarily necessary"

I don't think Israel's decision to bomb heavily populated areas meets any of these prinicples.

The ethics of warfare: Is it ever morally right to kill on a massive scale

This autumn, the University of Birmingham will launch a Policy Commission on Remote Warfare. Here is the first in a series of Perspectives examining the key issues being considered ahead of the launch.

www.birmingham.ac.uk

 

[Valletta]

"there are three principles for conduct in war:

• Discrimination (distinguishing between enemy combatants and non-combatants)
• Proportionality (the harms must be proportional to the gains)
• Actions must be militarily necessary"

I don't think Israel's decision to bomb heavily populated areas meets any of these prinicples.

The ethics of warfare: Is it ever morally right to kill on a massive scale

This autumn, the University of Birmingham will launch a Policy Commission on Remote Warfare. Here is the first in a series of Perspectives examining the key issues being considered ahead of the launch.

www.birmingham.ac.uk

Israel has shown incredible care in preventing civilian casualties, in similar type situations I think they have done a better job than 99% of the countries in the history of the world.

 

[expos4ever]

First of all let's dispel the notion that this is some sort of camp. It's not some makeshift tent encampment. It's actually a city with buildings.

How is this relevant? Tents vs buildings makes no difference to the families of those innocents killed.

Secondly the strike was on legitimate military targets that were hiding among citizens.

What target? Please be specific. An IDF official conceded that they were after one commander. And dozens of innocents died.

It depends on what rhetoric people are using. If one is accusing Israel of Apartheid, Genocide etc. then I think anti-Semetic may be in play.

Whataboutism. I have never denied that it would be inappropriate to accuse Israel of genocide or apartheid.

When one spends 95% of their time criticizing Israel and 5% criticizing Hamas and their terroristic actions then anti-Semetic may b in play.

Irrelevant. My point is true by definition: one can indeed be opposed to Israel's policy and not be an anti-semite. You are moving the goalposts. Yes, if someone were to criticize Israel and remain silent on Hamas then, yes, anti-semitism is in play. But that was never my point.

When one blames Israel for the actions of Hamas then anti-Semetic seems to fit.

This is a very tenuous argument. If someone mounts an argument that Israel's policies encouraged the formation of Hamas and their actions, that is not an anti-semitic position if the arguments are sound. I am not saying that such a case can be made; I am simply pointing out that to make a plausible case that Israel's policies have contributed to what Hamas eventually did, is not evidence of anti-semitism.

 

[expos4ever]

Israel has shown incredible care in preventing civilian casualties,....

What evidence do you have for this assertion? An argument that they warned people is evidence of taking some care, but not incredible care. But, and this is really important, if you know that the people you warn may not even receive the warning and / or are not practically able to flee (e.g., they are ill or have nowhere to go), then the warnings are not really exculpatory.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Israel has shown incredible care in preventing civilian casualties, in similar type situations I think they have done a better job than 99% of the countries in the history of the world.

Doesn't seem that way.

More children killed in Gaza than in global conflicts annually over past 4 years, Save the Children says​

The number of children reported killed in Gaza during Israel’s military campaign over the past three weeks has surpassed the annual number of children killed in armed conflict globally in each of the past four years, according to Save the Children.

 

[Valletta]

Doesn't seem that way.

If you put your faith and trust in Hamas then it would seem so. I do not.

 

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