Peace for the parties

[returntosender]

What is the road to peace among the parties?

 

[returntosender]

A thread that only positives can be posted?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

What is the road to peace among the parties?

Compromise and empathy. Understanding that both sides are actually on the same team, not against each other and not assuming the worst intentions in others. Not believing everything done by the other side is all a part of some diabolical scheme to destroy the country.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Compromise and empathy. Understanding that both sides are actually on the same team, not against each other and not assuming the worst intentions in others. Not believing everything done by the other side is all a part of some diabolical scheme to destroy the country.

The problem is, the Leftist control the Democratic Party, especially the current president.

They have no regard for the consequences of the laws they get through the president's executive
orders.

Liberals in the Democratic Party do not side with the Leftists and there is a difference between the two.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

The problem is, the Leftist control the Democratic Party, especially the current president.

Yeah see, this is exactly what I’m talking about. Don’t do this.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Yeah see, this is exactly what I’m talking about. Don’t do this.

So you're asking for compromise between the Republicans and Democrats?

OK, which issue are you willing to compromise, abortion, transgenderism, what?

 

[Freth]

In my mind it's the sinful aspect of both parties. The hate for one another, and the hateful rhetoric, the bickering the goes back and forth. Each side has to be right (or left), and neither side wants to compromise. There is no middle ground to be found because of extremism on both sides. Society itself has turned extremist, so I don't think you're going to solve the issue of politics if you can't solve the extremism in society that keeps both sides polarized. This coupled with the extreme ignorance found in the society today. People need to be educated in the hard truths of reality (on both sides)—namely, history and facts.

 

[DaisyDay]

So you're asking for compromise between the Republicans and Democrats?

OK, which issue are you willing to compromise, abortion, transgenderism, what?

Keeping the government up and functioning, perhaps?

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Keeping the government up and functioning, perhaps?

The Soviet Government was up and functioning. That's not the question.

Compromise what beliefs? I won't compromise life nor accept young
people being mutilated chemically and surgically in order to satisfy
an immoral ideology that is being pushed onto society.

 

[DaisyDay]

The Soviet Government was up and functioning. That's not the question.

The question was what would you compromise for? Obviously, because we are talking about Republicans and Democrats, the Soviet Government - which stopped functioning 35 years ago - is not the government at question. I do not want to live in a failed state.

Compromise what beliefs? I won't compromise life nor accept young
people being mutilated chemically and surgically in order to satisfy
an immoral ideology that is being pushed onto society.

Yeah, the question still is what would you compromise on. Listing all the issues you are immutable on really is not the question. Would you compromise on anything at all, say, funding school lunches or pay raises for the military?

Did you note the OP's request for positivity?

 

[WolfGate]

So you're asking for compromise between the Republicans and Democrats?

OK, which issue are you willing to compromise, abortion, transgenderism, what?

While there will always be gridlock issues where compromise is not applicable, the current climate where neither side is willing to give any ground to the other on almost every issue is untenable.

The things you mentioned are so broad your question can't be answered directly. What do you mean by compromising on transgenderism? Unless you advocate banning it entirely or expect that everybody should align with exactly what you think then you already are open to some parameters being placed around it. Positions have to be proposed for compromise to happen - right now that is in short supply and we get a lot of culture battles instead of policy discussions.

At any rate, things not currently in the culture war that I think could be fixed with compromise.

1) Figuring out how to improve the US health care system, which by every objective measure is one of the least efficient in the 1st world (very expensive and below average results).

2) Economic decisions to get a) the budget back under control and lower the amount of debt and b) to best support the new babies and new mothers in states that tighten restrictions after RvW was overturned. Interestingly, that same support in states that have not tightened restrictions would allow some pregnant women to feel they could choose to keep their babies. That should be a win-win for both parties, if they would just start talking again.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

The question was what would you compromise for? Obviously, because we are talking about Republicans and Democrats, the Soviet Government - which stopped functioning 35 years ago - is not the government at question. I do not want to live in a failed state.

Yeah, the question still is what would you compromise on. Listing all the issues you are immutable on really is not the question. Would you compromise on anything at all, say, funding school lunches or pay raises for the military?

Did you note the OP's request for positivity?

I'd rather live in a failed state than support abortion or LGBTQ+ ideology.

Fact is, if we keep supporting these, the state will fail.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

While there will always be gridlock issues where compromise is not applicable, the current climate where neither side is willing to give any ground to the other on almost every issue is untenable.

The things you mentioned are so broad your question can't be answered directly. What do you mean by compromising on transgenderism? Unless you advocate banning it entirely or expect that everybody should align with exactly what you think then you already are open to some parameters being placed around it. Positions have to be proposed for compromise to happen - right now that is in short supply and we get a lot of culture battles instead of policy discussions.

At any rate, things not currently in the culture war that I think could be fixed with compromise.

1) Figuring out how to improve the US health care system, which by every objective measure is one of the least efficient in the 1st world (very expensive and below average results).

2) Economic decisions to get a) the budget back under control and lower the amount of debt and b) to best support the new babies and new mothers in states that tighten restrictions after RvW was overturned. Interestingly, that same support in states that have not tightened restrictions would allow some pregnant women to feel they could choose to keep their babies. That should be a win-win for both parties, if they would just start talking again.

When it comes to transgenderism, I'm referring to the mandate put in place by President Biden, they prohibits
doctors not providing transition drugs or surgery, should the parents agree to have the child receive them.

Abortion? There is no compromise in allowing the direct killing of the unborn.

 

[Belk]

I'd rather live in a failed state than support abortion or LGBTQ+ ideology.

Fact is, if we keep supporting these, the state will fail.

Why, when asked what you will support, do you keep responding with what you will not support? It seems to me this feeds into the block that we are seeing in our government. Both sides are stuck trying to beat the other up where they disagree instead of cooperating where they do agree.

 

[WolfGate]

When it comes to transgenderism, I'm referring to the mandate put in place by President Biden, they prohibits
doctors not providing transition drugs or surgery, should the parents agree to have the child receive them.

Abortion? There is no compromise in allowing the direct killing of the unborn.

Ok, so it sounds like you are saying if you cannot get a total ban on abortion, you would prefer nothing. If it could be passed, you would oppose a national 13 week ban (for example) and leave it as today where many states have much looser restrictions. Even if what could be passed is closer to what you want than we have today.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

So you're asking for compromise between the Republicans and Democrats?

OK, which issue are you willing to compromise, abortion, transgenderism, what?

Sure.

The right have already got what they wanted when they struck down Roe v Wade to make it a state level issue. What’s the compromise for you getting that?

What do you wish to do about transgender people? Outlaw them? Make them second class citizens with restricted rights? What’s the compromise you want here?

 

[WolfGate]

Why, when asked what you will support, do you keep responding with what you will not support? It seems to me this feeds into the block that we are seeing in our government. Both sides are stuck trying to beat the other up where they disagree instead of cooperating where they do agree.

You are right that is part of the problem. Rather than state what they would do, the parties say what they oppose and will not do. They claim to put forth policy, but it really is opposition and not a position.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

The Soviet Government was up and functioning. That's not the question.

Compromise what beliefs? I won't compromise life nor accept young
people being mutilated chemically and surgically in order to satisfy
an immoral ideology that is being pushed onto society.

Yeah see… this is more of what I was talking about up thread. There is no compromise to be had with some of you.

 

[Pommer]

Compromise and empathy. Understanding that both sides are actually on the same team, not against each other and not assuming the worst intentions in others. Not believing everything done by the other side is all a part of some diabolical scheme to destroy the country.

That this sounds like some utopian pipe-dream shows just how far we’ve traversed.

 

[Pommer]

The problem is, the Leftist control the Democratic Party, especially the current president.

Is there anything in particular that this is about?

They have no regard for the consequences of the laws they get through the president's executive
orders.

You might have a fundamental misunderstanding of just what Executive Orders do/are.

Liberals in the Democratic Party do not side with the Leftists and there is a difference between the two.

Which is…?