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Federal judge temporarily halts Tennessee's 'drag ban' law on free speech grounds

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That doesn't matter when it's something deemed inappropriate for children.
Didn't we agree it was the parents who would be the best people to make these decisions? As opposed to someone who had a personal view that it might be inappropriate? In which case, it does matter.
 
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You have the right not to take your kids to places, that dress up in drag . And kids and adults have been watching this stuff on TV for a long time.
I have the right to expect the children's section of the public library to be an appropriate environment for children. And I bet we can both come up with a lot of things seen on TV that do not belong in a children's library and that children shouldn't be attending.
 
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I have seen many children in bars with their parents. Parents don't take children to bars without food, but many bars sell alcohol and food. A parent certainly is allowed to take their children into a bar if the bar sells food, at least in the state where I live.

We are talking about seeing Drag Queens who are not stripping, not drinking alcohol or seeing a movie with nudity or graphic sexual content.

The law was way too general in the language and that is why it was given a temporary restraining order. The laws on the books already cover bars and movies which can be enforced, we are talking about a law targeting people in drag.
There are places that sell liquor where children are allowed, like grocery stores. But the Irish bar and the pool hall across the street from where I live is for adults only. And I don't know of any nightclub anywhere that isn't adults only.

If a nightclub stripper was hanging out with kids in a children's library, that also would be inappropriate even if she kept her outfit on.

I agree a better constructed bill needs to be put into law regarding children and adult entertainment / adult entertainers.
 
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And it is the ones who are children now who will be the ones to wake up and find all their rights are gone.
Well society can go in the other direction and start removing age restrictions placed on children to liberate them. I know that's certainly what NAMBLA et al wants according to their online agenda.
 
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I have the right to expect the children's section of the public library to be an appropriate environment for children.
You have the right to voice your opinion on what you consider is inappropriate. And that's it.
 
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Well society can go in the other direction and start removing age restrictions placed on children to liberate them. I know that's certainly what NAMBLA et al wants according to their online agenda.
You really do your best to constantly deflect the discussion to NAMBLA. It's off topic, it's becoming tiresome and somewhat frustrating. It detracts from the point of the thread. Do you realise that the mods are specifically targeting off topic comments at the moment? Can I ask that you please refrain?
 
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I have the right to expect the children's section of the public library to be an appropriate environment for children. And I bet we can both come up with a lot of things seen on TV that do not belong in a children's library and that children shouldn't be attending.
It is appropriate for drag queens to read. Which is fine. If you don't want your child to watch them on the few days, that they read to kids . Then have your kid go a different day. It's not that hard..
 
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It is appropriate for drag queens to read. Which is fine. If you don't want your child to watch them on the few days, that they read to kids . Then have your kid go a different day. It's not that hard..
There's no reason why exotic adult entertainers should have a program for children. It's inappropriate and dodgy. If it were straight cis-gender exotic adult entertainers you'd probably agree. But since its lgbt it has to happen or else it's discrimination and marginalizing etc.
 
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That doesn't matter when it's something deemed inappropriate for children.
At least according to the GOP push to take away the rights of parents to decide what's appropriate for their children and have that part of parenting taken over by big government bureaucrats.
 
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Well society can go in the other direction and start removing age restrictions placed on children to liberate them. I know that's certainly what NAMBLA et al wants according to their online agenda.
If posts want to continue advocating for a group pushing for legalizing pedophilia, seems like it would be best in a thread where that sort of thing isn't wildly off topic.
 
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There's no reason why exotic adult entertainers should have a program for children. It's inappropriate and dodgy.
Does this apply to anyone who has "adult" jobs, or just people that the GOP want to demonize to manufacture outrage. I mean, police deal with some really adult situations, should they also be prevented from interacting with children?
 
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Does this apply to anyone who has "adult" jobs, or just people that the GOP want to demonize to manufacture outrage. I mean, police deal with some really adult situations, should they also be prevented from interacting with children?
I'm sure you know what adult entertainment and content is, and that the designation wasn't invented by the GOP.
 
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Well society can go in the other direction and start removing age restrictions placed on children to liberate them. I know that's certainly what NAMBLA et al wants according to their online agenda.
How diabolical. I looked this up because it kept being referenced here and now I'm grossly appalled and shocked by the depravity of this society. Really hope any members of this evil association steer clear of those who won't tolerate this for their own good.
 
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How diabolical. I looked this up because it kept being referenced here and now I'm grossly appalled and shocked by the depravity of this society. Really hope any members of this evil association steer clear of those who won't tolerate this for their own good.
I bring it up because they want kids to be involved in the kinds of things progressives are arguing for. An advanced teaching of sexually. Being comfortable around people who would normally creep them out. Talk of kids rights. Kids being emancipated from current mores as to what they're taught in schools, where they go, who they hang out with. Parents getting on board with it and others supporting it because it's the progressive thing to do. The narrower the separation between children and adults becomes the better.
 
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I bring it up because they want kids to be involved in the kinds of things progressives are arguing for.
The fact that bad people want a particular thing does not make that thing bad. If you think it's a bad idea, that's fine, but "That's what the [Nazis/NAMBLA/Communists/Freemasons/etc] want!" isn't an argument.
 
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There's no reason why exotic adult entertainers should have a program for children.
What if they want to? They want to volunteer in their communities.

As I noted before, the law as passed removed a qualifying statement about the performance 'arousing prurient interest'. If a stripper (or drag queen) comes dressed as Jackie Kennedy and reads a book without stripping or otherwise arousing prurient desires, I see nothing wrong with it. However, the vague text of the law would make it illegal.
 
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I know that my bringing it up makes some supporters of 'kids plus sexuality trans and drag yay' uncomfortable.
It's just a Godwin, but with pedophiles instead of Nazis. People naturally get defensive when you make the comparison, no matter how tenuous or invalid it is. It only serves to derail the thread.
 
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What if they want to? They want to volunteer in their communities.

As I noted before, the law as passed removed a qualifying statement about the performance 'arousing prurient interest'. If a stripper (or drag queen) comes dressed as Jackie Kennedy and reads a book without stripping or otherwise arousing prurient desires, I see nothing wrong with it. However, the vague text of the law would make it illegal.
I've heard them say their goal is to condition kids to feel comfortable with them, since kids are naturally creeped out by them. If they want to volunteer they could help feed the homeless, do meals on wheels for shut-ins, help in shelters and food banks, help in senior centers etc etc.

They aren't dressed as Jackie Kennedy or Tootsie. They're bearded men in bizarre getups holding little kids in their laps. People have been fooled into accepting it because it's supposed to be progressive and possibly mainly "because the GOP is against it".

 
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Maybe we can call it the Pedwin’s Law? This site already birthed Poe’s Law, why not another one?

I’ll do my part by referring to it every time it comes up. Which will be a lot.
 
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