Should Audio-Video Recording Cameras Be Used In Elementary Public Schools?

[Solum Aeternum]

I say no, it's a slippery slope

 

[Daniel Marsh]

Only in public areas like hallways, in classrooms aiming at the students, not teachers.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

Well, I can see some positives and negatives.

Positive: Let's say Billy and Bobby start arguing in class, and maybe Billy hits Bobby. All those arguments about "He started it!" can now be resolved by looking at the camera footage.

Negative: There's now a semi-permanent record of Billy and Bobby misbehaving in class. Old-style, they sit in time-out for 10 minutes, or have some other punishment, and then it's over and gone. New-style, every misbehavior is on video.

Negative: Every student question and every wrong answer is also on video. Teacher asks what's the capital of Canada. Sally guesses "Toronto". That's the wrong answer. Old-style, the teacher asks for alternative answers, or maybe just gives the correct answer. New-style, Sally's mistake is on camera. If Sally knows that all her mistakes are going to be recorded, maybe Sally stops trying to answer questions, lest she give the wrong answer, or even stops asking questions, and just hides from the camera all year.

This second negative would, I think, outweigh the positives for me. I'd be concerned about learning being suppressed by setting up an environment where students are afraid to make mistakes in class.

Or Students will do their homework for a change.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

Not sure about mandating it or having it a constant. If I were hypothetically in a position to make the decision regarding this, I'd propose rather than having a mandated camera there, allow students to record if they find it necessary. I mean, people (used to?) audio record college lectures all the time right? Start there see how it goes?

All cameras must be netural, not selected like a student will do. Many Professors do not allow recording in their classrooms.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

I agree, but then that's who we were talking about elementary-level classes.

The cameras should be in all grades. So, when a student assults a teacher or other person, the recording can be used in Court.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

Jesus Christ is a historical fact who walked this earth, and is the subject of untold books written on him throughout history, perhaps the subject needs to be in every classroom under history's most amazing figure?

A football game is a school sponsored event on school property, it has been determined that teachers have a constitutional right to express their beliefs in public schools, "Fact"

This recent 6/3 conservative ruling is a complete reverse from 60 years of liberal precedence, "religious speech is now back in the public schools" says a 6-3 conservative majority in the US Supreme Court, perhaps you need to read the majority opinion

President Donald J. Trump nominated three justices, 1.) Gorsuch, 2.) Kavanaugh, 3.) Barrett, and we are witnessing the hard turn in the "Right Direction" thank you Jesus!

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[Daniel Marsh]

God bless all, being kicked off by wife.

 

[bèlla]

In a rational society it might work with the right parameters in place. But we're too emotionally charged. What happens when the parent sees something they don't like with the teacher or their child and other students? You'd have to limit access for that reason alone.

We don't have a great track record with data. Most assume the information could be used against us at a later date and we've seen examples of that occur. Not to mention cancel culture.

~bella

 

[Daniel Marsh]

Everywhere I taught, I left my doors wide open and personnally invited Parents with concerns to be in my classroom. This always had the effect of the students behaving themselves. So, daily in the Parking Lot I would invite Parents to my classrooms. At times, I wore my Military Uniform when I had duty after School. There were a few that objected,, I simply explained that I had duty after School and there would be no time to change.

 

[Truth7t7]

Everywhere I taught, I left my doors wide open and personnally invited Parents with concerns to be in my classroom. This always had the effect of the students behaving themselves. So, daily in the Parking Lot I would invite Parents to my classrooms. At times, I wore my Military Uniform when I had duty after School. There were a few that objected,, I simply explained that I had duty after School and there would be no time to change.

I went to school when first order of business was the pledge of allegiance, red, white, blue, long may it wave!

 

[Akjv]

Audio-Video recording cameras are in almost all publicly owned areas, courthouses, motor vehicles offices, libraries, police vehicles and officers, on public roadways?

Why not the publicly owned elementary school classroom?

We aren't talking live camera, just recorded footage for a record of what has taken place in the classroom?

Well it would show more abuse for sure. One school system I worked in the Elementary classrooms had a closet with a wooden chair and if a child got out of hand they would be locked in the closet w/o light till they became quiet. I did not agree with that punishment but workers have no say. Also High Schoolers abuse teachers quite a bit in classrooms but are not punished much for it.

 

[Aaron112]

The worst thing would be a teacher using the recording as a threat to keep the class/student in line

Or, lawyers, government, corporations, agencies >>
".... EVERYTHING you do or say may be used against you IN a court of law (or many other ways),
even 50 years from now.... "

 

[Akjv]

If the kids are not reminded that the camera is there they will forget all about it. The worst thing would be a teacher using the recording as a threat to keep the class/student in line, thereby reminding the kids that the camera is there.

Personally, I like the idea for the same reasons that you have mentioned.

When I worked in the school system all schools had cameras in all hallways none in class rooms. All cameras and recordings were handled by the media specialist.I have seen a 12 yr old hit a teacher in the mouth with his fist and draw blood and I have seen a 11 or 12 yr old hit a 8 month pregnant teacher in the stomach. And I have seen wilder and worse things.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Our children's classrooms (church) are equipped with live feed. Any parent in the service can log into the system and see what their child is doing at anytime.

The plusses out way the minuses

 

[Merrill]

My concern would be video evidence of a teacher accidentally "misgendering a student"

then losing their job and potentially facing criminal charges in places like Canada

 

[Truth7t7]

Well it would show more abuse for sure. One school system I worked in the Elementary classrooms had a closet with a wooden chair and if a child got out of hand they would be locked in the closet w/o light till they became quiet. I did not agree with that punishment but workers have no say. Also High Schoolers abuse teachers quite a bit in classrooms but are not punished much for it.

The quiet in the closet sounds like a good place to go, like sitting in the corner with the dunce cap on

 

[YorkieGal]

I miss the days when all of our activities weren't recorded, all our words played back, all of our interactions under surveillance in one way or another........this world has gone crazy.

 

[Akjv]

The quiet in the closet sounds like a good place to go, like sitting in the corner with the dunce cap on

quite in the corner and locked in a dark room without light appears to be different to me.