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Who's idea was it to disburse immigrants all over the U.S.?

Do you believe open borders are a good thing for the country?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 8.1%
  • No

    Votes: 27 73.0%
  • I can see a financial benefit

    Votes: 3 8.1%
  • It's humanitarian

    Votes: 6 16.2%
  • It shoves the citizens aside.

    Votes: 5 13.5%
  • We are a country of immigrant's

    Votes: 8 21.6%
  • The more the merrier.

    Votes: 2 5.4%
  • It will be a struggle for everyone.

    Votes: 2 5.4%
  • I don't care about it.

    Votes: 1 2.7%
  • It will end in a takeover.

    Votes: 4 10.8%

  • Total voters
    37

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I guess most neutral people would agree with me.
No, you’re going to find the most agreement with your fantasies about democrats on the right.
 
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No, you’re going to find the most agreement with your fantasies about democrats on the right.
I wouldn't call it a fantasy since I don't really care what they do with the borders or immigration. I don't have a fantasy about that. This is just what I see happening from a political perspective. In any case, we'll see how it goes.
 
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They're trying to broaden the voter base by setting up campaigns in their home countries to seek asylum in the USA. When they get here they'll use your tax dollars to give them very generous welfare; they will also grant them amnesty and citizenship complete with voting rights. They'll continue this operation for years as hundreds of thousands of immigrants swells to millions.

They will also maybe/probably vote Democrat because that's the party who helped them get where they are. At the same time they are running various propaganda campaigns to discourage dissenting opinions or discussion on the matter.

The end goal is to get a majority Democrat voting base as the aging GOP voter base gradually dies off. Democrats want party supremacy and may actually get it probably within the next 10 years or so.

So to summarize: Democrats are bad because they'll help people wanting to move and live and start a life here in the US gain citizenship and become productive voting members of American society. And, since Democrats are the ones helping facilitate this, those immigrants will probably vote for them. And, as a political party they want more votes. And all of this, again, makes the Democrats bad.

Am I understanding this correctly?

Republicans, however, who also want a majority voting base and seeking party supremacy--by having more votes--are also bad yes?

Or is the wanting to help people who want to live here make a living and support their family and be productive members of American society the bad part?

I'm struggling to understand this as a criticism of the Democratic Party.

It's bad that people want to live here and be part of the American melting pot?
It's bad that a political party wants more votes?

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So to summarize: Democrats are bad because they'll help people wanting to move and live and start a life here in the US gain citizenship and become productive voting members of American society. And, since Democrats are the ones helping facilitate this, those immigrants will probably vote for them. And, as a political party they want more votes. And all of this, again, makes the Democrats bad.

Am I understanding this correctly?

Republicans, however, who also want a majority voting base and seeking party supremacy--by having more votes--are also bad yes?

Or is the wanting to help people who want to live here make a living and support their family and be productive members of American society the bad part?

I'm struggling to understand this as a criticism of the Democratic Party.

It's bad that people want to live here and be part of the American melting pot?
It's bad that a political party wants more votes?

-CryptoLutheran
From my perspective it isn’t criticism. I think the truth is only seen as a critical opinion when it’s inconvenient. Personally I think they should come right out and own it; republicans and democrats both. No need to virtue signal anymore. People are only political pawns to them until are they aren’t useful anymore. At that point they’ll find a new group to parade around for political gain. Perhaps people aren't ready for this reality.
 
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They're trying to broaden the voter base by setting up campaigns in their home countries to seek asylum in the USA. When they get here they'll use your tax dollars to give them very generous welfare; they will also grant them amnesty and citizenship complete with voting rights. They'll continue this operation for years as hundreds of thousands of immigrants swells to millions.

They will also maybe/probably vote Democrat because that's the party who helped them get where they are. At the same time they are running various propaganda campaigns to discourage dissenting opinions or discussion on the matter.

The end goal is to get a majority Democrat voting base as the aging GOP voter base gradually dies off. Democrats want party supremacy and may actually get it probably within the next 10 years or so.

Perhaps you want the conspiracy theory forum?

I'd suggest that if Republicans want to end up with a majority of the vote, then they need to craft policy proposals that are more appealing than those of their opponents to a majority of voters - including those who are the children of immigrants (whether undocumented or not).
 
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I believe it will be the downfall of the U.S. I've seen a great difference in our city since the borders were open. What. Possible good reason could they have. States are suffering financially, morally, violence is rampant. I just don't get it. A politician said in the news today that the country is moving up in every way. My words.. who is going to help the cities that have taken them in and are struggling financially? I would like to know how the citizens feel about it.
Unless you are an indigenous American, you can't say your ancestry dates back to anything but an immigrant(s). Why was it ok for your family to immigrate to the USA but not others today? Could it have anythg to wi with immigrants now more often being people of color? Should only white English speakers be allowed to immigrate? Many of them are happy where they are.

Do you hate Mexicans, Africans, or Arabs for example?
 
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Perhaps you want the conspiracy theory forum?

I'd suggest that if Republicans want to end up with a majority of the vote, then they need to craft policy proposals that are more appealing than those of their opponents to a majority of voters - including those who are the children of immigrants (whether undocumented or not).
Pendulum swings both ways. The popular vote isn’t a constant.
 
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Unless you are an indigenous American, you can't say your ancestry dates back to anything but an immigrant(s). Why was it ok for your family to immigrate to the USA but not others today? Could it have anythg to wi with immigrants now more often being people of color? Should only white English speakers be allowed to immigrate? Many of them are happy where they are.

Do you hate Mexicans, Africans, or Arabs for example?
I don't hate any of them, i dislike Mexicans. Their whole race lies, cheats and steals not to mention kills. They are the bottom of the barrel.
 
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I don't hate any of them, i dislike Mexicans. Their whole race lies, cheats and steals not to mention kills. They are the bottom of the barrel.
“Mexican” isn’t a “race”.
Paul had a similar opinion of Cretans, as I recall.
 
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Unless you are an indigenous American, you can't say your ancestry dates back to anything but an immigrant(s). Why was it ok for your family to immigrate to the USA but not others today? Could it have anythg to wi with immigrants now more often being people of color? Should only white English speakers be allowed to immigrate? Many of them are happy where they are.

Do you hate Mexicans, Africans, or Arabs for example?
Because we are decent moral and upstanding people. You can't say that about most that enter now.
 
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Because we are decent moral and upstanding people. You can't say that about most that enter now.

You would seem to be in disagreement with yourself about at least one of "we":

I don't hate any of them, i dislike Mexicans. Their whole race lies, cheats and steals not to mention kills. They are the bottom of the barrel.

What would you call that statement?
 
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You would seem to be in disagreement with yourself about at least one of "we":



What would you call that statement?
I wouldn't call it anything since you reference it. The only thing i ever see from you is divisiveness. I'm happy never to see your comments or the others you hang with. Toodles
 
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From my perspective it isn’t criticism. I think the truth is only seen as a critical opinion when it’s inconvenient. Personally I think they should come right out and own it; republicans and democrats both. No need to virtue signal anymore. People are only political pawns to them until are they aren’t useful anymore. At that point they’ll find a new group to parade around for political gain. Perhaps people aren't ready for this reality.
They've ruined their own country are you so foolish to think they won't do the same here?
 
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I wouldn't call it anything since you reference it. The only thing i ever see from you is divisiveness. I'm happy never to see your comments or the others you hang with. Toodles
I have placed others into ignoreland for blatant racial/ethnic bigotry before and I am doing it now. Good bye forever.
 
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