How to stop abortions

[Love365]

Are married woman allowed to do so?

Married women have their husbands to help them.

But they also might need child care for some reasons.

 

[Hammster]

No, idiotic is your word. I said absurd, and it is absurd for some of the reasons pointed out in rebuttal and others which have not been mentioned, whatever they are..
Also, comparing legal person-hood status to a fetus to equal protection to blacks is also absurd. You are conflating racism with giving equal rights to the unborn.

Not at all. Some folks back then didn’t think that blacks were human and worthy of equal protection. Complete ignorance. Same goes today with the unborn.

 

[JustOneWay]

Not at all. Some folks back then didn’t think that blacks were human and worthy of equal protection. Complete ignorance. Same goes today with the unborn.

You are comparing apples to oranges. Sad, but not unexpected.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Married women have their husbands to help them.

But they also might need child care for some reasons.

Just because someone is LEGALLY married does not mean that both parties work together or even live together. There are people who are legally married who either A are living a part for whatever reason or may be living together basically as roommates where they have nothing to do with each other's lives, but according to a piece of paper are married.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Not at all. Some folks back then didn’t think that blacks were human and worthy of equal protection. Complete ignorance. Same goes today with the unborn.

Here is the thing is a person "alive" if they would NOT be viable outside the woman's womb? For example, I have two cousins currently expecting one is due in November the other March of 24. Suppose both women were riding in a car and got into an accident whether they made it or not Mrs. P's baby (the have the same first name) would be worth trying to save because there were be a chance due in November that she could live outside the womb. Mrs. C's baby however would not be worth trying because whether Mrs. C made it or not there is NO WAY that due in March that baby would be able to live outside her womb none and so there would be no point in trying to save the baby irrespective of whether the mom was not badly injured or could be saved if she were badly injured

 

[Divide]

How to stop abortions.

1. Stop insulting single pregnant women.

2. Free child care.

Free child care wouldn't work unless it was a neighbrohood thing. Because if it was any sort of organization then the kids would be being exploited like bring in drag queens and letting them say unhumanly things to the children, If it was a neighbrohood thing then it could be armed daycare by people who care and are not weirdos.

The only way us Christians have to stop abortions is prayer and witnessing to young people.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Free child care wouldn't work unless it was a neighbrohood thing. Because if it was any sort of organization then the kids would be being exploited like bring in drag queens and letting them say unhumanly things to the children, If it was a neighbrohood thing then it could be armed daycare by people who care and are not weirdos.

The only way us Christians have to stop abortions is prayer and witnessing to young people.

Under that logic even neighborhood things would not work as kids are more in danger from people they know than from strangers according to stats.

 

[A2SG]

Doubling down on idiotic arguments doesn’t magically make them better.

You keep using that as an excuse to go out of your way to avoid addressing the point.

I'll make it clearer: what you are advocating is not equal rights.

The rights you want to grant embryos are rights that no born person has, and those rights would come at the expense of, and in direct conflict with, the existing rights of pregnant women.

-- A2SG, you're gonna have to do a better two-step to avoid addressing the point now.....

 

[JustOneWay]

Free child care wouldn't work unless it was a neighbrohood thing. Because if it was any sort of organization then the kids would be being exploited like bring in drag queens and letting them say unhumanly things to the children, If it was a neighbrohood thing then it could be armed daycare by people who care and are not weirdos.

They read books.

The only way us Christians have to stop abortions is prayer and witnessing to young people.

Interesting. Then I suppose you have no issue with non-Christians having abortions.

 

[Divide]

Under that logic even neighborhood things would not work as kids are more in danger from people they know than from strangers according to stats.

Then no amount of vetting that could be 100% reliable. So iguess then the only response would have to be extreme punishment. Back in western days they might find themselves hanging from a tree? (You don't mess with the Kids!)

Is that too harsh for nowadays? People need to realize their own personal responsibility for themseves and their family, as well as for the community in which they live. Have you ever googled how many countries use armed guards or military to guard the contry's schoolchildren? Most of them do !! But not the United States, oh that sounds scary can't do that here...

What would you suggest for safe daycare?

 

[RileyG]

Not at all. Some folks back then didn’t think that blacks were human and worthy of equal protection. Complete ignorance. Same goes today with the unborn.

Amen!

 

[dogs4thewin]

Then no amount of vetting that could be 100% reliable. So iguess then the only response would have to be extreme punishment. Back in western days they might find themselves hanging from a tree? (You don't mess with the Kids!)

Is that too harsh for nowadays? People need to realize their own personal responsibility for themseves and their family, as well as for the community in which they live. Have you ever googled how many countries use armed guards or military to guard the contry's schoolchildren? Most of them do !! But not the United States, oh that sounds scary can't do that here...

What would you suggest for safe daycare?

I did not say that childcare should be free really vetting is the only thing you can do and even that comes with limitations as people have been known to leave places when they suspect people are catching on to their behaviors leaving no actual paper trial or convictions to vet. Vetting (background checks) only work if there is a paper trial. As for hanging yes SCOUNTS has found that hanging for most non-homicide crimes aganaist people ( as opposed to the state do not qualify for the death penalty under the 8th amendment.

 

[Divide]

They read books.


Interesting. Then I suppose you have no issue with non-Christians having abortions.

Now did I say that?! I surely did not, so here we go I guess...

Interesting. Then I suppose you have no issue with non-Christians having abortions.

You got that, out of what I said? I said,

The only way us Christians have to stop abortions is prayer and witnessing to young people.

Where did I say that the young people were all Christians? Is the "witnessing" that I spoke of intended for those who believe already?! No! It is for the unbeievers. Understand now? You've made a ridiculous assertion.

 

[Divide]

I did not say that childcare should be free really vetting is the only thing you can do and even that comes with limitations as people have been known to leave places when they suspect people are catching on to their behaviors leaving no actual paper trial or convictions to vet. Vetting (background checks) only work if there is a paper trial. As for hanging yes SCOUNTS has found that hanging for most non-homicide crimes aganaist people ( as opposed to the state do not qualify for the death penalty under the 8th amendment.

Hmm, we can't hang them, huh? How about riding them out of town on a rail after we beat them senseless? I mean, we are taking my kids, right? Your kids? I see no reason for a slap n the wrist but rather towards the opposite. (You dont mess with the Kids). People learn faster when they hear about how badly bill gay guy got beaten for saying inappropriate things to a child.

And if they're less than 7 years old, it's a Felony.

 

[JustOneWay]

Now did I say that?! I surely did not, so here we go I guess...



You got that, out of what I said? I said,



Where did I say that the young people were all Christians? Is the "witnessing" that I spoke of intended for those who believe already?! No! It is for the unbeievers. Understand now? You've made a ridiculous assertion.

I made no such assertion. I never said young people were all christian - what you said was: "The only way us Christians have to stop abortions"

Suppose: assume that something is the case on the basis of evidence or probability but without proof or certain knowledge.

Assert: a confident and forceful statement of fact or belief

 

[Divide]

I made no such assertion. I never said young people were all christian - what you said was: "The only way us Christians have to stop abortions"

Suppose: assume that something is the case on the basis of evidence or probability but without proof or certain knowledge.

Assert: a confident and forceful statement of fact or belief

WHy? What are you, a non believer that is against abortion or what? I never said it is ok for nonbelievers to have abortions. That is ridiculous.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Hmm, we can't hang them, huh? How about riding them out of town on a rail after we beat them senseless? I mean, we are taking my kids, right? Your kids? I see no reason for a slap n the wrist but rather towards the opposite. (You dont mess with the Kids). People learn faster when they hear about how badly bill gay guy got beaten for saying inappropriate things to a child.

And if they're less than 7 years old, it's a Felony.

For saying inappropriate things WAY too far.

 

[Divide]

The only way us Christians have to stop abortions is prayer

Interesting. Then I suppose you have no issue with non-Christians having abortions.

That's what you said. Somehow you dont see that my statement is sort of two part sentance.
The only way us Christians have to stop abortions...assuming that we've been saved and know that it is against God's will for anyone to have an abortion. God is pro life.

So if you are talking about young christians having abortions, then I would assert that they are very young christians and not yet, a Christian. You can't call yourself a Christian today and tomorrow have an abortion. Something went wrong.

But you said ...stop abortions. That rings to me like spiritual warfare. Can we help stop it? Sure we can, with prayer. Do you think Roe vs Wade was struck down by accident?! Lol!! More people are praying than ever before. That's why God allowed Roe vs Wade to be struck down.

 

[Divide]

For saying inappropriate things WAY too far.

That may be. Maybe we should call a neighbrohood meeting and all of us take a look at the facts of the case and vote on it? I don't want to be too harsh. But I want them to learn, you dont mess with the Kids!

Any suggestions?

 

[dogs4thewin]

That may be. Maybe we should call a neighbrohood meeting and all of us take a look at the facts of the case and vote on it? I don't want to be too harsh. But I want them to learn, you dont mess with the Kids!

Any suggestions?

Saying things alone is not a crime unless it is threats or fighting words and you cannot make up crimes just because you do not like what people are saying to your kids. Now you can confront the person and in some cases ( depending on the facts you can keep your kids away from certain adults, but in the vast majority of cases words are not crimes and should not be treated as such.