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What Message Does The Proud Boys Heavy Sentencing Send?

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Read back. My answer is in there.

Alright, I read back and saw no answer. Please tell me which of the posts you made (below) reveal the answer. thanks
Right. They are for not even being at the Capital on the day.

You have proof of what you are implying?

Not my country, not my problem.

No bot baseless... but you want details from an outsider??? That sounds like you don't care either

And conspiracy should be a lesser crime than to take action.

Is that not a different case?
So no evendence of what we are talking about.

Talk about Helter Skelter.
 
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Until it has gone through the appeals process... not so much.
They've been CONVICTED.

Convicted: having been declared guilty of a criminal offense by the verdict of a jury or the decision of a judge.

Guilty!
 
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Alright, I read back and saw no answer. Please tell me which of the posts you made (below) reveal the answer. thanks
And just like that you have shown my answer.
Just read what you have posted and my answer is right there.
 
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No bot baseless... but you want details from an outsider??? That sounds like you don't care either

And conspiracy should be a lesser crime than to take action.
I care, but I have not seen one example of a person who was arrested with no evidence of a crime committed. No one to my knowledge was sitting at home on 1-6-21 with no prior contact with those who conspired were arrested that I know of. You asserted there were. Without your assistance in identifying these individuals you claim to exist for review, I stand by the assertion that if they were not at the capital on January 6th, and they were arrested, there was sufficient evidence of conspiracy to warrant arrest.
 
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Right. They are for not even being at the Capital on the day.

Wrong. Of the 5 "Proud Boys" sentenced in the last week, 4 most certainly were at the Capitol (and all four of them engaged in acts of violence outside the Capitol before entering.)

Dominic Pezzolla wrestled a shield from a police officer before using that shield to smash open a window in the Capitol before entering the Capitol through that broken out window. He is the only one of the 5 not convicted of sedition. He got 10 years.

Joe Biggs was one of the ground leaders of the PBs commanding them and encouraging others to push forward. He and others tore up a metal fence and handed out bits to use as weapons. He entered the Capitol just after Pezzolla. He got 17 years.

Ethan Nordean was the other ground leader of the PBs that day and also participated in the destruction of the fence on Capitol grounds. I don't remember if Nordean entered the Capitol itself. He got 18 years.

Zach Rehl was the head of the Philly chapter and marched with the PBs at the front. During the melee outside the Capitol before the building was breached by Pezzolla, Rehl sprayed at a police officer with a chemical irritant. After the breach he spent the rest of his day with his Philly buds including invading a Senator's office. He got 15 years.

The one who was sentence that wasn't in Washington was their leader, Henry Tarrio. Tarrio planned the whole operation taking many actions to advance the plan and was in communication with the leaders during the attack. This was a criminal conspiracy and Tarrio was part of it and advanced its goals. He could have been anywhere when it finally occurred. As it was he was in Baltimore monitoring thing from a hotel room. Convicted of sedition and other crimes, Tarrio was sentenced to 22 years.
 
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I care, but I have not seen one example of a person who was arrested with no evidence of a crime committed. No one to my knowledge was sitting at home on 1-6-21 with no prior contact with those who conspired were arrested that I know of. You asserted there were. Without your assistance in identifying these individuals you claim to exist for review, I stand by the assertion that if they were not at the capital on January 6th, and they were arrested, there was sufficient evidence of conspiracy to warrant arrest.
I have asserted nothing.
If you think I have... show the proof.
I just asked questions, for the most part.

So because someone says so then there is enough evidence. Why not check out the evidence before coming to that conclusion?
Why not do some work before condemning someone?
 
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That's actually not how that works. Appellate courts deal with matters of law not fact.
And until the appeals process is complete we don't have an answer to the question if the trial was even fair.
 
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I have asserted nothing.
If you think I have... show the proof.
I just asked questions, for the most part.

So because someone says so then there is enough evidence. Why not check out the evidence before coming to that conclusion?
Why not do some work before condemning someone?

You asserted the sentences were for not even being at the capital that day.

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Condeming only occurs when/if they are convicted. Since there were no such individuals as you assert, there is nothing to research.
 
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You asserted the sentences were for not even being at the capital that day.

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Condeming only occurs when/if they are convicted. Since there were no such individuals as you assert, there is nothing to research.
Not an assertion but a statement of fact.
 
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Looked to me like he showed that assert and fact go to together. I suppose you missed it.

You said it is not a STATEMENT OF FACT, but a statement of fact.
You missed the words in the dictionary that make it an assertion.
You focused on what you wanted to hear and not on what was said.

The words that make it an assertion are "confidently" and "forcefully".
I was not forceful and I have been open to being shown facts that counter my position... not exactly the pose of confidence.
 
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