How to stop abortions

[A2SG]

Each rely on others for their safety. I see no difference.

A zygote doesn't rely on others for it's safety. It relies on one single womb inside of one single woman.

Shouldn't she have a say in the matter?

-- A2SG, or doesn't she matter at all?

 

[RileyG]

A zygote doesn't rely on others for it's safety. It relies on one single womb inside of one single woman.

Shouldn't she have a say in the matter?

-- A2SG, or doesn't she matter at all?

It's still a human and has a right to exist and be safe.

 

[A2SG]

A law demanding a vasectomy and a law protecting the unborn are different.

What is the difference?

And why are they different?

-- A2SG, nearing on that point you're missing.....

 

[RileyG]

What is the difference?

And why are they different?

-- A2SG, nearing on that point you're missing.....

Unborn children should be protected because they're the most vulnerable. Simple.

A vasectomy has nothing to do with unborn children.

 

[A2SG]

It's still a human and has a right to exist and be safe.

Again, who said it wasn't human?

Does a person with two failing kidneys have a right to exist and be safe, too? Can you be forced to provide your spare kidney so they'll survive?

They won't if you don't.

-- A2SG, still circling that point from before....

 

[RileyG]

Again, who said it wasn't human?

Does a person with two failing kidneys have a right to exist and be safe, too? Can you be forced to provide your spare kidney so they'll survive?

They won't if you don't.

-- A2SG, still circling that point from before....

No. Yes, they have a right to exist, and no one can be forced to do anything. I don't see how this is relevant?

(not to ramble on, but I literally have one kidney, so it's interesting you bring that up)

 

[Aaron112]

A law demanding a vasectomy and a law protecting the unborn are different.

Sadly it seems that a law demanding a vasectomy might be enforceable and accomplished with quite a bit of support.
While a law protecting the unborn would take millions of dollars every day out of someone's pockets, and they would continue for the money making and ignore the law... even though they suffer God's vengeance on the day appointed.

 

[RileyG]

Sadly it seems that a law demanding a vasectomy might be enforceable and accomplished with quite a bit of support.
While a law protecting the unborn would take millions of dollars every day out of someone's pockets, and they would continue for the money making and ignore the law... even though they suffer God's vengeance on the day appointed.

How sad.

 

[Aaron112]

Does a person with two failing kidneys have a right to exist and be safe, too? Can you be forced to provide your spare kidney so they'll survive?

Sadly, yes. This was on several documentaries recently. Organ harvesting, even from unwilling persons, even if they die, continues growing furiously for the great amount of money obtained (including so much for bribes without even a second thought) ....

 

[Aaron112]

How sad.

The world we live in now, is even more wicked and sinful than the world when Jesus was born, and it was very bad then.

 

[A2SG]

Unborn children should be protected because they're the most vulnerable. Simple.

So it's about vulnerability now? What about that guy with two failing kidneys? Isn't he vulnerable?

A vasectomy has nothing to do with unborn children.

There's a point to that question. You're still missing it.

-- A2SG, answer it, and maybe that point will be clearer.....

 

[RileyG]

So it's about vulnerability now? What about that guy with two failing kidneys? Isn't he vulnerable?


There's a point to that question. You're still missing it.

-- A2SG, answer it, and maybe that point will be clearer.....

I'm confused how this has to do with the discussion?

Telling a woman it's wrong to have an abortion is not the same as vasectomy if that is what you are trying to get at. The unborn child in her still has a right to life.

 

[A2SG]

No. Yes, they have a right to exist, and no one can be forced to do anything. I don't see how this is relevant?

You'd force a woman to use her womb for something she doesn't want to. That's the relevance.

(not to ramble on, but I literally have one kidney, so it's interesting you bring that up)

It's just a hypothetical. I don't really need your kidney.

-- A2SG, it can just be a hypothetical second kidney.....

 

[Pommer]

Heck, if the zygote were outside of a womb, it can't even breathe!

Fetuses don’t breathe air, no, but the diaphragm does move up and down and the lungs are filled with amniotic fluid.

 

[RileyG]

You'd force a woman to use her womb for something she doesn't want to. That's the relevance.


It's just a hypothetical. I don't really need your kidney.

-- A2SG, it can just be a hypothetical second kidney.....

#1. How so, she had sex, so she knew what she was getting into.
#2. I just thought it was interesting you mentioned that. That's all

 

[A2SG]

Sadly, yes. This was on several documentaries recently. Organ harvesting, even from unwilling persons, even if they die, continues growing furiously for the great amount of money obtained (including so much for bribes without even a second thought) ....

Yeah, I've heard of that urban legend too.

-- A2SG, kinda highlights the point, don't it?

 

[Pommer]

No, I'm not.

edit: look at my marital status.

I’m celibate too, 90% of the time.

 

[Pommer]

#1. How so, she had sex, so she knew what she was getting into.
#2. I just thought it was interesting you mentioned that. That's all

About 30% of abortions are from married women.

 

[RileyG]

About 30% of abortions are from married women.

...and?

 

[Pommer]

A vasectomy has nothing to do with unborn children.

The irony, it burns!