The Kingdom Age

[parousia70]

That is only half the verse. You skipped the other half.

Not one inspired writer is equating the Day of the Lord is equal to 24 hours and 24 hours is equal to the Day of the Lord. So why do you all state the Day of the Lord is a 24 hour day?

Peter pointed out that the Day of the Lord was as 1,000 years. And 1,000 years as that day.

According to you the Day of the Lord would be less than 6 hours.

Exactly!

A thousand earth years is the same as one day to God. A thousand earth years is ALSO the same as 6 Hours to God.
Conversely, One earth day (or 6 earth Hours) is the same as a thousand years to God.

These passages demonstrate God is TimeLESS.

That does not mean God is incapable of telling time correctly and correctly communicating its passing to humans in a way humans can understand and correctly apply.

There is no such thing as Shortly, or a Long Time to God.

These are all terms of Human understanding of the passage of time, commmunicated TO Humans FOR Humans.

God doesn't have to wait "shortly" or "a long time" for anything.

 

[Timtofly]

Exactly!

A thousand earth years is the same as one day to God. A thousand earth years is ALSO the same as 6 Hours to God.
Conversely, One earth day (or 6 earth Hours) is the same as a thousand years to God.

These passages demonstrate God is TimeLESS.

That does not mean God is incapable of telling time correctly and correctly communicating its passing to humans in a way humans can understand and correctly apply.

There is no such thing as Shortly, or a Long Time to God.

These are all terms of Human understanding of the passage of time, commmunicated TO Humans FOR Humans.

God doesn't have to wait "shortly" or "a long time" for anything.

Not 6 hours. More like 12 to 18 hours.

 

[Diamond72]

Not 6 hours. More like 12 to 18 hours.

Depends on who is doing the math. In the beginning, a day could have been 6 hours.

How many hours were in a dinosaur's day? › Ask an Expert (ABC Science)

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[Diamond72]

Cool, but irrelevant.

Everyone accuses others of what they are guilty of. There are sins of omission (what we say, do, and think) and commission(what we should do, say, or think, but do not). I only admit to what I did not do that I should have done. The police are trained to get people to confess. Only if you are not guilty there is nothing to confess to. Not only must we refrain from evil, we should look for opportunities to do good.

This is pretty much straight out of the book of common prayer. Every Sunday we confess to what we have done and we confess for what we should have done but didn't.

 

[Diamond72]

So you believe and assert that the Temple's 70 AD Destruction was The end of the age

It was the end of animal sacrifices. They thought the sacrifice was all God wanted. Just like today they think that we are forgiven but, we have to be delivered from sin. The grace of God has to do a work in us.

Sometimes the associate pastors understand this better than the ones with a 4 year degree.

 

[OldAbramBrown]

... I believe the church age started at Pentecost 2,000 years ago ... What I wonder is if Jesus will physically return or if His return is symbolic in some way. Also, I wonder how we will transition from one age to the next. Lots of people think there will be a 7-year tribulation period.

The church started at Ascension not Pentecost. His return will be noticeably in person somehow. The transition will be noticeable. The figure may not be 7.

 

[trophy33]

Everyone accuses others of what they are guilty of. There are sins of omission (what we say, do, and think) and commission(what we should do, say, or think, but do not). I only admit to what I did not do that I should have done. The police are trained to get people to confess. Only if you are not guilty there is nothing to confess to. Not only must we refrain from evil, we should look for opportunities to do good.

This is pretty much straight out of the book of common prayer. Every Sunday we confess to what we have done and we confess for what we should have done but didn't.

It seems to me your replies are a bit random.

 

[Diamond72]

It seems to me your replies are a bit random.

My brother said I have always jumped around like that. Sometimes I will use AI to rewrite things to make them more coherent for people to understand. I try to anticipate the questions people may ask, when I should wait for them to tell me what they want me to further comment on.

 

[OldAbramBrown]

... Sometimes I will use AI to rewrite things to make them more coherent for people to understand ...

Then we will be even less convinced you - or it - know(s) what you - or it mean(s). Stick to being the real you and slow down to our speed.

 

[trophy33]

My brother said I have always jumped around like that. Sometimes I will use AI to rewrite things to make them more coherent for people to understand. I try to anticipate the questions people may ask, when I should wait for them to tell me what they want me to further comment on.

Its much more better to post one sentence that is yours and to the topic, than to use AI to randomly generate a A4 long text that is about nothing related to the post you reply to.

 

[Diamond72]

Its much more better to post one sentence that is yours and to the topic, than to use AI to randomly generate a A4 long text that is about nothing related to the post you reply to.

I just wanted to save people the time for doing their own research. But I understand about information overload because I like short posts and do not want to spend time reading long posts.

Einstein said if you understand something you can condense it down. As E=MC2 explains all of creation from the beginning.

 

[Diamond72]

Then we will be even less convinced you - or it - know(s) what you - or it mean(s).

Really, you think I can communicate better than AI or you just feel threatened by AI?

 

[Diamond72]

The church started at Ascension not Pentecost.

The Church Age is associated with the outpouring of the Holy Spirit on the Day of Pentecost, as described in the New Testament book of Acts.

His return will be noticeably in person somehow. The transition will be noticeable.

So you think it will be a physical return? Is the world going to know who He is? We are told "every eye will see Him". Revelation 1:7

 

[OldAbramBrown]

The Church Age is associated with the outpouring of the Holy Spirit on the Day of Pentecost, as described in the New Testament book of Acts ...

The significant start of the church was when they started supplicating in the upper room (when they exercised their unvetoed gifts). The outpouring referred to was a public epiphany and also has the meaning of re-infilling, though not as a mannerism to be copied. Subsequently apostles checked with groups of believers about whether their teaching had been incompete or indistinct, hence similarly the recent pentecostals' offering "fulness" which however many got over rigid over whilst forgetting its meaning. Inbreathing and empowerment are distinct whether received simultaneously or not, and it is common for empowerment to be continual (and usually not very conspicuous). Our life as both inbreathed and Holy Spirit filled is to supplicate so the upper room is our template.

 

[OldAbramBrown]

Really, you think I can communicate better than AI or you just feel threatened by AI?

I think you can communicate as well as you can communicate. (It's difficult for everybody.) Some forms of "AI" will apparently base themselves on what you already wrote. Why not give yourself a chance of gaining confidence in yourself whether you use a tool or not? But if you do, why mention it? What happens your side of the edit panel always was your affair. Your problem isn't how you say things, it's what you say that isn't germane.

Incidentally have you a fixation with people's supposed hypothetical emotions and do you think it relevant to the thread (a point myst33 raised)? Slowing down might mean stopping before you get as far as this red herring. I thought the subject was some kingdom ages. Time is on your side. Less is the new more. Slow is the new quick. Thread subject = keep us interested. The Kingdom of the unvetoed gifts was already in the upper room immediately after Ascension.

 

[Diamond72]

Your problem isn't how you say things, it's what you say that isn't germane.

Exactly, so when I know something is going to be a flame, I go to AI and ask them to rewrite what I said so it does not come off sounding like an insult.

 

[OldAbramBrown]

Exactly, so when I know something is going to be a flame, I go to AI and ask them to rewrite what I said so it does not come off sounding like an insult.

So you like "flaming" as long as it "doesn't sound like an insult" when advancing kingdom age? Why draw attention to your "flaming" when a simple "oops" would have been ample. Why not just recap your thread aim yourself. I drop small pieces of information into dispensation threads to suggest a perspective. Am I supposed to find dispensation threads "threatening"?

 

[Diamond72]

So you like "flaming"

It looks like you are the one that likes to insult people

 

[Guojing]

As a dispensationalist, I believe the church age started at Pentecost 2,000 years ago. Then the Kingdom age is 1,000 years. What I wonder is if Jesus will physically return or if His return is symbolic in some way. Also, I wonder how we will transition from one age to the next. Lots of people think there will be a 7-year tribulation period.

How do you understand the term "church age"?

At Pentecost, Peter was only preaching to the men of Israel and is still keeping the Law of Moses.

 

[Guojing]

No there is not because Paul says this is a mystory. ""32This mystery is profound, but I am speaking about Christ and the church." Perhaps you need to do some study on what "mystery" means in the Bible.

Also we read: the mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now has been revealed to His saints.

1. The Mystery: Paul refers to "the mystery," which is a term he often uses in his writings to describe something previously hidden or not fully understood but now revealed by God.
2. Hidden from Ages and Generations: Paul is emphasizing that this mystery was concealed or kept hidden for a long time throughout various ages and generations in the past. It was not fully disclosed or comprehended in the Old Testament era.
3. Now Has Been Revealed: The key point in this verse is that this mystery, which was previously hidden, has now been revealed. Paul is likely referring to the revelation of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the message of salvation through faith in Christ, and the inclusion of Gentiles (non-Jews) in God's plan of salvation.
4. To His Saints: The revelation of this mystery is not just for anyone but specifically for "His saints," meaning those who are set apart for God, believers in Jesus Christ who have dedicated themselves to living in accordance with His teachings.

In the broader context of the book of Colossians, Paul goes on to explain aspects of this mystery, including the supremacy and sufficiency of Christ, the hope of glory in Christ, and the reconciliation of believers to God through Christ's work. The mystery is essentially the unveiling of God's redemptive plan through Jesus Christ, which had not been fully understood in previous generations but has now been made known to believers.

Was this mystery revealed to Peter at Acts 2?