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Narcan approved for over the counter sale. What happened to don't do drugs?

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@JustOneWay, do you also call struggling addicts names like "dopehead", like in the OP?

...It seems like you support that sentiment. Is that right?
Just because somebody writes a word doesn't mean a thing. The op is negative about helping addicts which I disagree, but neither the OP nor I said they should die. I had a brother die of drugs, and while I put the blame squarely on him, I never wished him death.
 
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The OP said nothing of the sort, and neither do I.
Maybe you should re-read the OP before mocking serious posters who defend the lives of addicts.

Narcan saves lives!
 
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Are you distracting from your sad and unworthy post? I believe so.
I support people, and the lives of addicts. You support hate with your posts, since you defended calling addicts names, by defending it. Which you *absolutely* did!

...But you can take it back. Will you?

...Will you support the lives of addicts, stop calling them names, and assist in ways to save their lives?
 
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Narcan which is used for opioid overdoses can now be bought over the counter.



What is this? To me this pretty much says "when you do drugs and overdose just use this and you can save a dopeheads life so they can live to do more drugs later". This is essentially approving drug use and diminishes their negative effects. It makes opiod abuse a little more acceptable.

When I was a kid we had slogans like don't do drugs, DARE officers came to our schools and talked about drugs, comic books had little ads about not doing drugs, cartoons would sometimes have little messages about not doing drugs and so on. What happened to all of that?

We should be discouraging drug use, not normalizing it.
I am fairly certain they still teach don't use drugs. Additionally, there are also those who are given drugs without their knowledge or against their will. Are they underserving dopeheads as well?
 
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I had a brother die of drugs, and while I put the blame squarely on him
That's sad. Your brother was a victim. His brain chemistry was altered from the drugs that bad people sold him, to where his decision-making was compromised. He made a mistake. A mistake that made him mentally handicapped for the rest of his life.

...Do we place blame on other mentally handicapped people?
 
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Narcan saves lives. Getting too much or the wrong opiate can mean death within minutes. WHy would we NOT want to save lives?.

Do addicts deserve to die when there are resourses that can save their lives?. Many people DO get clean/sober but they have to be alive in order to change their lives. Many people don't care what happes to a"junkie" sleeping in a tent on the street or a park bench but when it ends up being their 16 year old daughter who is an honor roll cheerleader they wish that help would have been available to them..

We need these people to tell their story about how bad their life was and what they did to stop and still enjoy life. People who have never had a problem but they got their degree are not able to touch people's hearts the same way as someone who made it back from rock bottom. I'm not big on Darwinism in that way. We don't just let people die brcause they are sick.

Addiction is not just a spiritual disease but it is a medical disease. An insurance company won't pay 25-50 thousand dollard to treat something that is not a medical problem. It is surely a character defect but it is a brain disease due to how your brain has responded to the chemical. It hijacks the reward system of the brain and your new wiring tells you that you need the drug like you need food/water/air/sleep etc. I could go on and on about that but I will let it go there.

Here is a link that explains the nurology of drug addiction.
 
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How many total cases of overdoses or how many are accidental through touch?
"In some cases, fentanyl can kill you just by being around it, you don't actually have to ingest it intentionally."

How many cases of people dying just by being around it?
 
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"In some cases, fentanyl can kill you just by being around it, you don't actually have to ingest it intentionally."

How many cases of people dying just by being around it?

None. This is some internet rumor.
 
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"In some cases, fentanyl can kill you just by being around it, you don't actually have to ingest it intentionally."

How many cases of people dying just by being around it?
Radioactive fentanyl. Yup.
 
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None. This is some internet rumor.
No, it's true. Several instances of police suffering overdoses have been recorded from just "being around it". They were all wearing rubber gloves, and proper PPE.



 
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Narcan which is used for opioid overdoses can now be bought over the counter.



What is this? To me this pretty much says "when you do drugs and overdose just use this and you can save a dopeheads life so they can live to do more drugs later". This is essentially approving drug use and diminishes their negative effects. It makes opiod abuse a little more acceptable.

When I was a kid we had slogans like don't do drugs, DARE officers came to our schools and talked about drugs, comic books had little ads about not doing drugs, cartoons would sometimes have little messages about not doing drugs and so on. What happened to all of that?

We should be discouraging drug use, not normalizing it.
It's time to grow up. And realize. Most Conservative Christins do drugs. And they will benefit with this. And so will other potential Conservative Christians benefit with this. By the way you are worshipping wordily stuff. That shouldn't apply to you. Grow up and move on.
 
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Narcan which is used for opioid overdoses can now be bought over the counter.



What is this? To me this pretty much says "when you do drugs and overdose just use this and you can save a dopeheads life so they can live to do more drugs later". This is essentially approving drug use and diminishes their negative effects. It makes opiod abuse a little more acceptable.

When I was a kid we had slogans like don't do drugs, DARE officers came to our schools and talked about drugs, comic books had little ads about not doing drugs, cartoons would sometimes have little messages about not doing drugs and so on. What happened to all of that?

We should be discouraging drug use, not normalizing it.
I agree with your message. We should let everyone who overdoses on drugs or otherwise has any health problems of their own making suffer and die without any access to help. This of course includes being overweight because of overeating, choosing a stressfull or physically demanding career or having children.
 
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None. This is some internet rumor.
I am not calling you a liar by any means, however when my father was terminally ill with colon cancer 14-15 he had patches and mom was told ( not by the internet, but by our family friend who happens to be a pharmatist that if she touched his patch without gloves she could receive a fatal dose. Again, I am not calling you a liar only saying that a person that I know off the internet who would have a reason to know told my mother otherwise. Now granted, changing a patch is different than "being around it" as of course you could be around a person with a patch without touching the patch.
 
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I am not calling you a liar by any means, however when my father was terminally ill with colon cancer 14-15 he had patches and mom was told ( not by the internet, but by our family friend who happens to be a pharmatist that if she touched his patch without gloves she could receive a fatal dose. Again, I am not calling you a liar only saying that a person that I know off the internet who would have a reason to know told my mother otherwise. Now granted, changing a patch is different than "being around it" as of course you could be around a person with a patch without touching the patch.
The patches are designed to cross through skin and caution is warranted. Rumors of overdosing by handling other street forms seem to be just rumors.
 
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