Would you vote for Biden if he is impeached?

[Pommer]

Seen it with my own eyes. Don't need to be a copy cat.

Biden’s mostly lucid, from what I have seen. But you’re entitled to your rather judgmental opinion, I guess.

 

[All Becomes New]

rather judgmental opinion

If I would have said, "I love Joe Biden and he can do no wrong" that would also be a "rather judgmental opinion."

 

[Yttrium]

If I would have said, "I love Joe Biden and he can do no wrong" that would also be a "rather judgmental opinion."

It would be even weirder than what you said.

 

[Pommer]

If I would have said, "I love Joe Biden and he can do no wrong" that would also be a "rather judgmental opinion."

He’s 80 years old, he’s still mostly lucid. Reagan took a nap everyday after lunch.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Would you vote for Biden if he is impeached?

If there’s no better option, sure. It also depends on what he’s actually impeached over. I wouldn’t give a pass to very serious crimes by the president but then again, the other side seems insistent on putting forth a guy charged with very serious crimes.

 

[A2SG]

Probably, but it depends on what he is impeached for. If it's one of the two articles that have already been submitted then yes I will vote for him.

According to Lauren Boebert's articles of impeachment, Biden is accused of dereliction of duty and abuse of power for the same thing at the same time. Not sure how that works, but there it is.

So, no, I don't consider that a reasonable charge of high crimes and misdemeanors, so I'd still vote for Biden over Trump.

-- A2SG, then again, I'd still vote for a cheese sandwich over Trump, so.....

 

[rjs330]

I honestly think if it came down to it, most leftists would vote for Biden regardless of what they say. I'm guessing just about anything the Republicans impeached him over wouldn't be enough. Similar to what happened with Trump and the Democrats.

We all vote for our guy over the other no matter what the vast majority of the time.

 

[A2SG]

I honestly think if it came down to it, most leftists would vote for Biden regardless of what they say. I'm guessing just about anything the Republicans impeached him over wouldn't be enough. Similar to what happened with Trump and the Democrats.

We all vote for our guy over the other no matter what the vast majority of the time.

I can only speak for myself, of course, but if Joe Biden were facing the same criminal charges as Trump is, with the same amount of evidence, I doubt I'd vote for him. Granted, a convicted felon would still be a better candidate for president than Trump, but even so, that'd be a hard sell for a lot of people.

Thing is, while more people did vote for Biden than for Trump in the last election, Biden does not have the fanatical following Trump does. Democrats simply do not worship Biden the way many of Trump's acolytes do him.

Heck, even now, I'd still rather see a better candidate put forth by Democrats, but that's not happening. So we're left with what we're left with.

-- A2SG, cheese sandwich, 2024......

 

[Paulos23]

It depends on what he is impeached for. If it is for things Trump has done, then no I would not.

If it is from a year-long witch hunt, and there are no other good choices.

 

[rjs330]

I can only speak for myself, of course, but if Joe Biden were facing the same criminal charges as Trump is, with the same amount of evidence, I doubt I'd vote for him. Granted, a convicted felon would still be a better candidate for president than Trump, but even so, that'd be a hard sell for a lot of people.

Thing is, while more people did vote for Biden than for Trump in the last election, Biden does not have the fanatical following Trump does. Democrats simply do not worship Biden the way many of Trump's acolytes do him.

Heck, even now, I'd still rather see a better candidate put forth by Democrats, but that's not happening. So we're left with what we're left with.

-- A2SG, cheese sandwich, 2024......

This is what I'm saying. It doesn't matter. What matters is the other guy. If you or I think the other guys policies are worse we'd vote for our side regardless.

But like you I am sincerely hoping we get a different candidate. Trump is not a good one and we definitely have people on our side who have very similar policies but who have much better character than he does.
I want one of them. One of them may be more appealing to the non partisan.

In a side note nobody is worshipping Trump. Man I get tired of that accusation. I think what is happening is that people have seen what the Democrats have done to him and believe he is being targeted for destruction by the political machine and many people hate that. I saw it from the start. I've never seen anything like it in my life time. Everything the man did was attacked non-stop 24/7. A lot of folks believe that it's a political assassination.

Trump has a way of connecting and making people feel heard. That's critical in a candidate.

I'm just making observations here. I don't care for the man and don't want him as the candidate. I think there are better options.

I do have a concern though that the Democrats and their media buddies think they have found a winning strategy and that no matter who the Republican candidate is they will receive the same treatment. It might be more difficult as Trump gave them a lot of opportunities, they will find something and the attacks will begin.

 

[SimplyMe]

This is what I'm saying. It doesn't matter. What matters is the other guy. If you or I think the other guys policies are worse we'd vote for our side regardless.

But like you I am sincerely hoping we get a different candidate. Trump is not a good one and we definitely have people on our side who have very similar policies but who have much better character than he does.
I want one of them. One of them may be more appealing to the non partisan.

In a side note nobody is worshipping Trump. Man I get tired of that accusation.

While I can understand your complaint, I think much of the problem is how frequently some right-wing Christians try to claim "leftist" ideas are "religions." Christians will frequently try to claim atheism is a religion, Science (or a particular branch of science like evolution or climate change are religions), we have a thread where it is argued that "gay pride" is a religion. So the claims that some are worshiping Trump, particularly when you have Pastors saying they are getting revelations from God about Trump, how he is a "Cyrus," and even a pastor claiming Trump is a messiah -- well, it is easy to see where the claims of worshiping come from.

I think what is happening is that people have seen what the Democrats have done to him and believe he is being targeted for destruction by the political machine and many people hate that. I saw it from the start. I've never seen anything like it in my life time. Everything the man did was attacked non-stop 24/7. A lot of folks believe that it's a political assassination.

Except most political figures recently have been attacked like that. Look at the various ways Clinton was attacked -- particularly over Paula Jones before he was first elected. In fact, it seems like this is when I first recall "electing a President and not a Pastor" was first really used.

Then you have Obama the "secret" Muslim, who went to an "anti-American church," wasn't born in the US, was friends with terrorists (Bill Ayers), and he wore a tan suit (the horror!).

What I find different about Trump is he engaged those that were attacking him -- where the common political maneuver, prior to Trump, was to not engage the people bringing up the distorted criticisms. Trump would often attack whoever was making the complaint, particularly the "MSM" or a particular outlet like CNN, he'd first deny the claims, then he'd frequently claim they were true but he wasn't serious (such as what he did with the Access Hollywood tape).

The reason it feels like more is most politicians ignored the criticisms and they went away after a few news cycles; at most they might put out a statement in the Friday news dump. People heard and either got outraged or ignored them, and then life went back to normal. Trump, by engaging, kept these stories in the news for much longer, which (in the eyes of his supporters) made it appear he was being "targeted" like no one else ever had been. He wasn't, he was just responding to it and keeping the story in the news -- which didn't change much for those that already opposed him but endeared him to his supporters and build that idea that he was being "bullied" -- despite he was doing just as much bullying (attacking those who spoke out against whatever issue) as they bullied him.

Trump has a way of connecting and making people feel heard. That's critical in a candidate.

I'm just making observations here. I don't care for the man and don't want him as the candidate. I think there are better options.

I do have a concern though that the Democrats and their media buddies think they have found a winning strategy and that no matter who the Republican candidate is they will receive the same treatment. It might be more difficult as Trump gave them a lot of opportunities, they will find something and the attacks will begin.

I'm not sure what you mean by "winning strategy?" If you mean indictments, no, that is strictly a Trump thing for doing things that seem fairly clear violations of the law, though we'll see what comes out in the trials.

If you mean negative campaigning, that has been a "feature" of both political parties for decades. Karl Rove was known for his skill at negative campaigning. And Trump is quite good at it, too, with "Crooked Hillary," "Sleepy Joe," "Lyin' Ted," the lying media, and it goes on and on.

 

[DaisyDay]

In a side note nobody is worshipping Trump. Man I get tired of that accusation.

I haven't seen that anyone on this forum worships him, I have seen him favorably compared to Christ.

Have you seen some of the flags and posters off site? There are Trump cultists.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Interesting that so far the only people who said that they wouldn't vote for Biden if he was impeached have no interest in voting for him anyway.

QFT

 

[keith99]

Interesting that so far the only people who said that they wouldn't vote for Biden if he was impeached have no interest in voting for him anyway.

I think a lot of that is because everyone knows it is a 99.44% chance that any impeachment is going to be purely MAGA payback and most likely entirely baseless.

 

[dogs4thewin]

I think a lot of that is because everyone knows it is a 99.44% chance that any impeachment is going to be purely MAGA payback and most likely entirely baseless.

but if he is impeached then the question would come up as to whether he could stand trial. If the answer to that is no then he would clearly not be able to run either.

 

[Hans Blaster]

but if he is impeached then the question would come up as to whether he could stand trial. If the answer to that is no then he would clearly not be able to run either.

Unless the Senate voted to dismiss without a trial, yes, there would be a trial in the Senate if Biden were to be impeached. That's just how the system works. (It's right there in the Constitution.)

 

[A2SG]

This is what I'm saying. It doesn't matter. What matters is the other guy. If you or I think the other guys policies are worse we'd vote for our side regardless.

In other words, we tend to vote for the lesser of two evils.

Welcome to American Politics.

In a side note nobody is worshipping Trump. Man I get tired of that accusation.

No, they're out there. I've seen any number of videos from people like Jordan Klepper interviewing them. To call them delusional would be understating it.

I think what is happening is that people have seen what the Democrats have done to him and believe he is being targeted for destruction by the political machine and many people hate that. I saw it from the start. I've never seen anything like it in my life time. Everything the man did was attacked non-stop 24/7. A lot of folks believe that it's a political assassination.

And yet, unlike most of the accusations levied against President Biden, there's significant evidence for them. But, we'll see how that evidence holds up in a court of law.

Trump has a way of connecting and making people feel heard. That's critical in a candidate.

Or of echoing people's base prejudices and fears and using them for his own ends.

To-may-to, to-mah-to.....

I'm just making observations here. I don't care for the man and don't want him as the candidate. I think there are better options.

There are few worse ones, that's certain.

I do have a concern though that the Democrats and their media buddies think they have found a winning strategy and that no matter who the Republican candidate is they will receive the same treatment. It might be more difficult as Trump gave them a lot of opportunities, they will find something and the attacks will begin.

We've seen the GOP already leaning into that strategy with the accusations levied against President Biden. My personal favorite is Lauren Boebert's articles of impeachment, where she accuses him of abuse of power and dereliction of duty, for the same thing at the same time.

Priceless!

Still, with Trump, there is evidence, sufficient to convince more than one grand jury. We'll have to see if, or how well that strategy works for President Biden in the future, I guess.

-- A2SG, either way, though, Hunter Biden's political hopes have been pretty well shattered.....

 

[RileyG]

I've never voted for Biden nor do I plan to.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Unless the Senate voted to dismiss without a trial, yes, there would be a trial in the Senate if Biden were to be impeached. That's just how the system works. (It's right there in the Constitution.)

but they still have to vote for the trial and moreover the longer this goes the less likely it would be that there would be a trial ( at least while he was in office ( particularly if he was found unfit or dropped out of the race with that pressure.

 

[DaisyDay]

but they still have to vote for the trial and moreover the longer this goes the less likely it would be that there would be a trial ( at least while he was in office ( particularly if he was found unfit or dropped out of the race with that pressure.

I think there is some confusion here - you are talking past each other when you talk about a "trial". When @Hans Blaster refers to a "trial" he means the trial held by the Senate concerning the impeachment by the House. It is not a criminal trial.

If Biden were impeached and the Senate found him guilty, he could be removed from office - at which point, he could be tried in a court of law.