India Lands on the Moon

[d taylor]

What do you mean ? Why would India want to shoot a rocket into the ocean ?

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Because that is where all space rockets go

 

[dzheremi]

I have it on good authority that NZ is secretly stockpiling a supply of heavy-duty rubber bands in preparation for a moon shot in 2025.

OB

That's odd. I'd heard from a cousin who lives there that the main cause of the delay is that the sheep refuse to get into the space suits.

 

[adrianmonk]

I stayed in India for 6 weeks. I had a glimpse.
I don't mean to be patronising. I live in a country that is in many ways more advanced than India, our general infrastructure is better than India's.
But I would be shocked if my country decided to spend this kind of money on a moon landing.

I know you did not mean to be patronizing. And I agree with you that India has much to do about infrastructure and people living under the poverty line. My only point is that such advances help India move forward and tackle those issues with investment and jobs.

BTW, an NZ company is a vendor for this mission. New Zealand tech firm has one eye on India’s lunar landing

 

[stevil]

I know you did not mean to be patronizing. And I agree with you that India has much to do about infrastructure and people living under the poverty line. My only point is that such advances help India move forward and tackle those issues with investment and jobs.

BTW, an NZ company is a vendor for this mission. New Zealand tech firm has one eye on India’s lunar landing

OK, a NZ company is making money off India's desire to say they went to the moon, interesting to know.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Allow me to be the first to say, welcome to the 1960's.


In all seriousness, I guess it's cool they were able to do it and gives them a certain measure of legitimacy in the world of aerospace (albeit, 60 years late)

On the other hand, being that they still have a high amount of people with food instability and many of the cities still have "plumbing" in the form of draining poop-water out into the street for other people to walk through, perhaps there were some other modern advances from our "moon landing era" they could've "caught up on" first before exploring this sort of thing.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I know you did not mean to be patronizing. And I agree with you that India has much to do about infrastructure and people living under the poverty line. My only point is that such advances help India move forward and tackle those issues with investment and jobs.

BTW, an NZ company is a vendor for this mission. New Zealand tech firm has one eye on India’s lunar landing

India has an 8% unemployment rate. And of the people who are employed, over half are living in poverty (by regional standards, by westernized standards, that's closer to 70%)

Unless this new field of aerospace is going to employ tens of millions of people (keeping in mind they have a population of 1.5 billion), it's not even going to begin to put a dent in the problem.


This isn't meant to sound like a USA brag, but we have the best, most sophisticated space programs in the world and we throw oodles of money at it.

NASA employs 18,000 people.
In the private aerospace sector, it employs about 400,000 (in widely varying capacities ranging from engineers and scientists, to mid-range positions like IT work and marketing people, to low level positions like clerical work and mail room staff)

Safe to assume India isn't going to have the same kind of budget we have for such endeavors, so I don't think this will be a significant "job creation machine" for them.

 

[mindlight]

In a way, great achievement to India.
But I also do think of the poor conditions many in India live in.
India should be investing in infrastructure and poverty.

I do not like Modi or his Hindu nationalist vision of India. But he has been an effective leader in terms of setting a vision for his nation and stimulating Indian industries like the Space Industry. India's self-image is moving away from the begging bowl toward the cutting edge and that is a positive development for its massive population. A great many in India and China have been lifted out of poverty in recent years because of this vision and sense of progress. It is nations that are not going anywhere like many in Europe that have lost this grand sense of vision and sense of growth.

 

[Nithavela]

Allow me to be the first to say, welcome to the 1960's.

Pretty sure the USA couldn't

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Because that is where all space rockets go

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How would a rocket trajectory actually look if it went into space, in your opinion?

 

[d taylor]

Pretty sure the USA couldn't

How would a rocket trajectory actually look if it went into space, in your opinion?

I have no opinion because if God's creation really existed, as science claims it does. Then and only then, would it be knowable, that man could launch a rocket that could leave the earth and go out into space. The it would be known what path a rocket would have to take.

But that creation does not exist, so there no need in hashing over something that does not exist.

 

[wing2000]

In all seriousness, I guess it's cool they were able to do it and gives them a certain measure of legitimacy in the world of aerospace (albeit, 60 years late)

....why is the US (and other countries) trying to go back to the moon? To say we can (again)?

 

[Mr E]

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Of course not, but to you it is, that is why you can watch this video of this fake moon landing and believe it is actually real.
Video: India Successfully Lands Spacecraft on Moon’s Surface

Cartoonish propaganda.

 

[Pommer]

Cartoonish propaganda.

Yeah well, doing the thing is one thing.
The “cartoon” is there to provide a visualization of a true thing that happened to have happened.
Welcome to CF and forum 71!

 

[ThatRobGuy]

....why is the US (and other countries) trying to go back to the moon? To say we can (again)?

A little bit of posturing can't be ruled out.

(per a recent write-up by MIT)
Five decades later, NASA has a plan to send astronauts back to the lunar surface. Called Artemis, after the sister of Apollo in Greek mythology, the project aims to visit a new area of the moon and retrieve new samples, this time with new faces behind the sun visors—including the first woman and first person of color.

Whether this plan will succeed—and whether a fresh moon landing will inspire a new “Artemis generation” in space exploration, as NASA leadership hopes—is a matter of debate. The differences between Artemis and the Apollo program, which itself fizzled out sooner than many had hoped, are certainly stark. Artemis is built on a less exact, less nimble, and much less well-heeled vision of space exploration than the one that launched Cernan and his predecessors. Where Apollo was conceived and executed as a high-priced monument to American ingenuity and the power of capitalism, its sister program is more a reflection of American politics and the power of inertia.

 

[d taylor]

Cartoonish propaganda.

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Well in this day of people who go around with their head glued to a phone, they probably can not tell the difference. At least that is the way i viewed how the video of all this was constructed. To make the person think they were actually watching this event.

 

[Apple Sky]

If you can't see that this is all fake, well there's no one that can help you.