Torben now imprisoned for almost a Year in the US without charges.

[Jude1:3Contendforthefaith]

 

[Jude1:3Contendforthefaith]

 

[Tammyfish12]

Torben Sondergaard is currently being held in an ICE detention facility for overstaying his visa.

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There doesn't need to be a charge for any specific crime for him to be held under those circumstances. He did file for asylum within the timeframe allowed by law, but since he entered the United States under the Visa Waiver Program, he was subject to mandatory detention without bond while his asylum application was being decided. This is because those who enter the US under the Visa Waiver Program are not entitled to bond if detained by immigration officials.

There are serious sacrifices that must be made in exchange for the ease and convenience of the VWP [Visa Waiver Program]. Most notably, the VWP entrant waives her right to appear before an immigration judge if deemed inadmissible and is not entitled to bond if held in the custody of an immigration official. The only exception for the VWP entrant is a claim of asylum, but even then, the VWP entrant is subject to mandatory detention while her asylum application is decided.

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Torben's request for asylum was denied on December 16, 2022, because he was unable to provide evidence that he suffered persecution in his home country of Denmark or that he would ever be subjected to any well-founded fear of persecution in the future. The evidence that was given during the asylum hearing didn't show that Torben had ever been persecuted. What the evidence did show was government agencies simply doing their job and Danish laws applying to everyone equally.

In one example Torben gave to show that he was being percecuted, he said the kitchen at his Christian center was inspected after there was a complaint about rats. In another he said that the fire department inspected his center after someone reported there were hazards and a risk of fire. Someone reported that his organization was avoiding paying taxes and it was requested that he provide accounting records. When there were reports that child abuse was taking place, someone from the local government investigated. According to Torben, in none of these cases was he fined or charged with anything. These aren't examples of persecution, but are examples of what government agencies are supposed to do when they receive a complaint.

Torben also mentioned a new law in Denmark that took affect in 2019 that addresses psychological violence and how it would be used against him. Here's how the law reads:

243. "The person who belongs to or is closely linked to another's household or previously had such a connection to the household, and who repeatedly over a period of time subjects the other to grossly degrading, insulting or offensive behavior that is suitable for inappropriately controlling the other, is punished for psychological violence with a fine or imprisonment for up to 3 years."

The law equally applies to everyone in the country, doesn't target Torben, and doesn't amount to persecution.

After losing his asylum case, Torben filed an appeal of the court's decision, and that appeal was dismissed on May 2, 2023. Torben could have been released from detention and returned to Denmark at any time since late last year, but he has decided to challenge US immigration law instead. He remains detained today because of his own choice.

Torben's situation isn't that unusual. There are thousands of asylum seekers who are held in detention while they wait for their cases to be decided. Of those detained, most are held without ever being charged with a crime and have no criminal record.

Hello Joseph, you can find the link to Torben's trial on bit chute. Just type "USA Judge Denies Torben Sondergaard"

 

[Tammyfish12]

To balance the contribution of JosephZ - I post this from the 'Friends of Torben' website.

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Pastor Torben Sondergaard is detained at the Baker County Detention Facility in Jacksonville, Florida.

Torben has not been charged with any crimes and despite attempts from his family and attorneys to get answers, the reason US authorities decided to detain him remains unclear.

He has been confined there since he attended an interview that was requested by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement on June 30, 2022.

He was handcuffed during that interview, but was not told the reason he was being detained.

In fact, there is no basis for him to be detained at all. A request for his release should be granted based on the fact that he meets all parameters for release, namely, (i) he is not a flight risk; (ii) he is not a danger to the community, himself, and/or any other person; (iii) he has no criminal record of any kind in Florida or anywhere in the world; (iv) he has family and friends who can meet him at the Baker facility, pick him up, provide for housing and all expenses, and (v) he has a very strong case for asylum based on religious persecution and political opinion, has relief from removal immediately available to him, and it is entirely in his interests to appear at all subsequent asylum proceedings so that he and his family can lawfully remain in the USA.

Torben is also eligible for relief under a previously filed and currently pending asylum application. US Immigration and Customs Enforcement have the authority to either release Torben under recognizance or a bond amount set by them. To date, the Deportation Officer assigned has denied those request. Those requests have been sent with a detailed explanations and evidence in support of the Torben’s eligibility for favorable discretion. The denial was based solely on the opinion of a US Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Deportation Officer that Torben would not be successful in his application for asylum before the Immigration Court.

Torben is a citizen and native of Denmark, a majority Lutheran country. He was a member of the Lutheran faith. However, in 1995 he developed a more personal faith in Christ and no longer identified as a member of the Lutheran faith but simply as a member of the Christian faith, a follower of Jesus Christ, and an Evangelical Christian. As has been covered in great detail in Torben’s Asylum filings, his ministry has been targeted, harassed, and subjected to numerous unfounded investigations. All of the multiple investigations ended with no findings of fault against Torben or his ministry. The investigations were nothing more than harassment, which continues to this day.

Despite having a far-reaching ministry stretching into Europe, Africa, Asia, Australia, and The Americas, Torben has been prohibited by the Danish government from practicing his faith and speaking out regarding matters of politics and religion. He has been repressed, persecuted, and discriminated against by the government of Denmark for his political beliefs and religious convictions. As a result, he is not able to minister as he did previously, which includes praying for the sick and casting out demons. As stated in his Asylum petition, the government of Denmark passed legislation targeting him and his ministry. The persecution by the Danish authorities caused Torben to flee to the USA in 2019.

Torben and his family have resided in the United States since 2019. He timely applied for political asylum within three months of his arrival in the USA as required by law, and his asylum application is currently pending. It is a very strong application, with extraordinary evidence, witnesses, detailed records, and a strong showing of actual repression and persecution as a religious minority and political activist. As such, Torben is highly incentivized to follow through with his political asylum application as that is a clear path of immediately available relief to him from deportation and path forward for him to be able to stay lawfully and permanently in the USA, where he would be able to practice his religion, work for his ministry and express his political opinion. Torben has a wife and family; they are also included in his Asylum application.

He is a classic case of a political and religious asylee and, as such, should be released from custody based on a strong case of underlying relief, humanitarian reasons, and meeting all other factors for release.

Torben has resided continuously in the United States for more than three years in a peaceful manner. As discussed above, Torben fled Denmark and has resided in the USA since 2019. He has a significant ministry and a steady following, a place of residence, hundreds of friends who are all able and willing to provide for his transport from the Baker facility, drive him to stay at their home awaiting adjudication of his asylum application, and provide for all expenses.

Torben is a person of excellent moral character who has not committed any crimes and has no criminal record. There is no history of involvement with violence, narcotics, or any serious criminal matter. Thus, from the record, we can unequivocally state Torben has never been arrested anywhere in the world. Torben has been a victim of persistent and vicious persecution in Denmark for his religious beliefs and should not be penalized by being held in custody.

Torben is not a flight risk. On the contrary, Torben came to the USA seeking asylum as a refuge from the terrible persecution and threats of violence he was experiencing in his home country of Denmark. These threats continue to this day. As such, he has nowhere to flee nor any desire to flee. Therefore, his best and only chance to secure any type of status for himself and his family is to stay in the USA, participate in his asylum proceedings, show up for all future hearings and appointments (as he has carefully and intentionally done to date), in order to secure a grant of his asylum.

In the United States, Torben has thousands of followers on YouTube and Facebook. Thus, it is clear that Torben is a Public Figure. He has authored seven books and produced three movies. His ministry reaches people all over the world. While he has resided in the United States, Torben and his ministry have visited over 40 States preaching the Word of God. In addition, he has held tent rallies and teaching seminars in multiple cities within each state. This religious freedom is not available to him in his home country Denmark.

Further, Torben conducts Bible teaching from the United States via the internet to all parts of the globe. As a Public Figure, Torben cannot simply disappear. To flee would go against his life’s work and his faith. By the foolish act of fleeing, he would destroy the very thing he preaches, faith in God. He is obligated by his deeply rooted ties to his Christian community, family, and ministry to stay in the United States once released from ICE custody and follow every rule and instruction associated with his release.

Torben is not a danger to the community, himself, or any other person; he is a man of deep faith. He simply wants to live peacefully, go through with his asylum application, and continue his work in his ministry. Torben is a man who has been through a great deal of hardship, pain, and discrimination; he has been ostracized and shunned; persecuted by his government; his religion has been outlawed, and the public state media have vilified him in his home country.

Our political asylum system in the USA was intended and designed to grant relief to people precisely like Torben.

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Extraordinary persecution? He was never even arrested in Denmark. He was never even physically harmed. That is not extraordinary persecution. Torben's team are liars.

 

[Jude1:3Contendforthefaith]

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[Carl Emerson]

I am fascinated by the depth of animosity towards Torben - what is it about him that ruffles so many feathers and attracts such deep accusations ?

 

[GTW27]

I am fascinated by the depth of animosity towards Torben - what is it about him that ruffles so many feathers and attracts such deep accusations ?

The Holy Spirit. Post #21 brought me great joy hearing Torben's voice, He has grown in Christ Jesus since being in there. You up for a challenge Carl? 40 days starting today, 40 days to pray for the miricle Torben deserves to see. I am not a prayer warrior, I only believe, believe The Lord's promises.

 

[Carl Emerson]

The Holy Spirit. Post #21 brought me great joy hearing Torben's voice, He has grown in Christ Jesus since being in there. You up for a challenge Carl? 40 days starting today, 40 days to pray for the miricle Torben deserves to see. I am not a prayer warrior, I only believe, believe The Lord's promises.

Yes - I can remember him for 40 days (to the best of my ability)

 

[JosephZ]

I am fascinated by the depth of animosity towards Torben - what is it about him that ruffles so many feathers and attracts such deep accusations ?

His dishonesty and the way he misleads people for one. He wasn't honest about his situation while he was detained and he continues to be dishonest since his release.

For example, in a recent update his supporters are asked to "pray for Torben’s pending Asylum petition in the US federal court. If it is granted, he will be able to return to the US immediately with his family."

There is no pending Asylum petition and he will not be able to return to the US with his family anytime soon. Once an asylum petition is denied and has gone through the appeals process, that's it. It's over. With an order of deportation on his record he's no longer eligible for asylum in the US, and he will be banned from entering for at in the US for a minimum of 10 years.

 

[Carl Emerson]

His dishonesty and the way he misleads people for one. He wasn't honest about his situation while he was detained and he continues to be dishonest since his release.

For example, in a recent update his supporters are asked to "pray for Torben’s pending Asylum petition in the US federal court. If it is granted, he will be able to return to the US immediately with his family."

There is no pending Asylum petition and he will not be able to return to the US with his family anytime soon. Once an asylum petition is denied and has gone through the appeals process, that's it. It's over. With an order of deportation on his record he's no longer eligible for asylum in the US, and he will be banned from entering for at in the US for a minimum of 10 years.

Did CBN and Congressman Higgins get it wrong as well ???

Evangelist Torben Sondergaard Deported from US After 1 Year in ICE Jail Cell: 'Please Pray'

CBN News has received confirmation that Christian evangelist and refugee Torben Søndergaard was deported from the United

www2.cbn.com

 

[JosephZ]

Did CBN and Congressman Higgins get it wrong as well ???

Evangelist Torben Sondergaard Deported from US After 1 Year in ICE Jail Cell: 'Please Pray'

CBN News has received confirmation that Christian evangelist and refugee Torben Søndergaard was deported from the United

www2.cbn.com

Yes.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Yes.

Can you give the readers good reason to believe you ?

 

[JosephZ]

Can you give the readers good reason to believe you ?

I made several comments in this THREAD back in December of last year on Torben's situation at the time that may help. In that thread I made the prediction that his appeals would not change the outcome of his denied asylum hearing and that he would be deported which is exactly what happened. US immigration law is pretty straight forward and he has exhausted all of his options for being granted asylum.

 

[Pioneer3mm]

From the article (CBN)..
"He is now free and safely reunited with his family..outside of Denmark."..
- any info. about..where/what country (outside of Denmark)?

 

[Jude1:3Contendforthefaith]

Hopefully his false accusers and persecutors will be repaid both in this life and at the judgment seat of Christ.

 

[Carl Emerson]

I made several comments in this THREAD back in December of last year on Torben's situation at the time that may help. In that thread I made the prediction that his appeals would not change the outcome of his denied asylum hearing and that he would be deported which is exactly what happened. US immigration law is pretty straight forward and he has exhausted all of his options for being granted asylum.

I meant give me a good reason to believe your claim that he is a liar...

Is it because anyone who claims to be ministering in the gifts of the Spirit must be a liar because you believe they have ceased?

There must be some reason why you would be making such serious accusations ?

 

[Wings like Eagles]

Did CBN and Congressman Higgins get it wrong as well ???

Evangelist Torben Sondergaard Deported from US After 1 Year in ICE Jail Cell: 'Please Pray'

CBN News has received confirmation that Christian evangelist and refugee Torben Søndergaard was deported from the United

www2.cbn.com

I saw this air and dont believe CBN got it wrong at all.

 

[JosephZ]

I meant give me a good reason to believe your claim that he is a liar...

Is it because anyone who claims to be ministering in the gifts of the Spirit must be a liar because you believe they have ceased?

There must be some reason why you would be making such serious accusations ?

I have already provided evidence of how Torben and his team have been dishonest and misleading people ever since he was arrested for being an overstay in the US in this thread and the previous one that I linked to in my earlier post that you quoted. My third post in this thread summarizes things pretty well, but more details can be found it the comments I made in the other thread. It has nothing at all to do with what type of ministry Torben has or his ministering in the gifts of the Spirit.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Is Congressman Higgins a liar as well ?

 

[JosephZ]

Is Congressman Higgins a liar as well ?

Congressman Higgins said that Torben "has been persecuted by this administration and targeted, we believe, because he is an evangelical Christian minister."

That's an absurd statement by Congressman Higgins. Torben's case was not unique and he was treated like any other asylum seeker or one who overstays their visa in the US under the Visa Waiver Program. He remained detained as long as he did only because he chose to appeal his case rather than accept the court's original decision.