My Evolution Challenge

[honey badger]

Since I was only talking about God's creation in general, not human evolution specifically, then we can kind of leave it aside.

they are not separate ...

 

[dlamberth]

there is but one context ... God

Yes, God in the spiritual realm is of one context. But in the physical realm things are different with multiplicity.

 

[honey badger]

Yes, God in the spiritual realm is of one context. But in the physical realm things are different with multiplicity.

For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him.

 

[dlamberth]

For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him.

And in the physical realm multiplicity change over time was created. That's crystal clear by just looking at His Creation.

 

[honey badger]

And in the physical realm multiplicity change over time was created. That's crystal clear by just looking at His Creation.

the natural is a shadow of the spiritual ...

 

[dlamberth]

the natural is a shadow of the spiritual ...

Agreed. The physical realm is the shadow of the spiritual. In the same breath, the physical is not the spiritual just as your shadow is not you. The physical realm operates differently than does the spiritual arena.

 

[honey badger]

Agreed. The physical realm is the shadow of the spiritual. In the same breath, the physical is not the spiritual just as your shadow is not you. The physical realm operates differently than does the spiritual arena.

.it is a reflection of it and therefor not separate ... it has no light of its own ...

 

[dlamberth]

.it is a reflection of it and therefor not separate ... it has no light of its own ...

Creation has the Divine Light of the forever Creating Light of God running through it. It's a Light that is forever and forever without end creating infinate variety of life forms.

 

[honey badger]

Creation has the Divine Light of the forever Creating Light of God running through it. It's a Light that is forever and forever without end creating infinate variety of life forms.

it has a beginning and an end and therefore measured ...

 

[dlamberth]

it has a beginning and an end and therefore measured ...

God has no beginning or end. Thus the forever Creating Light of God can not ever end. Unless of course, one wishes to limit God.

 

[honey badger]

God has no beginning or end. Thus the forever Creating Light of God can not ever end. Unless of course, one wishes to limit God.

i was referencing the creation ...

 

[Astrophile]

I definitely disagree . I’m English!

You surprise me. According to your profile, you live in the northern UK, so I always assumed that you were Scottish.

 

[AV1611VET]

Thus the forever Creating Light of God can not ever end.

God didn't create with light.

God created with His voice.

Ten times in Genesis 1 we see the phrase AND GOD SAID.

And eight of those deal with the creation events.

This light stuff you're espousing is New Age philosophy.

Unless of course, one wishes to limit God.

We don't limit God.

God limits God.

And He wrote us a Book showing us where those limitations are.

And it behooves us to respect those limitations.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You surprise me. According to your profile, you live in the northern UK, so I always assumed that you were Scottish.

There is a piece of land below Scotland, sadly.

 

[dlamberth]

God didn't create with light.

God created with His voice.

Ten times in Genesis 1 we see the phrase AND GOD SAID.

And eight of those deal with the creation events.

This light stuff you're espousing is New Age philosophy.

Let there be Light. Without that Divine Light nothing happens, including God's voice.

We don't limit God.

God limits God.

And He wrote us a Book showing us where those boundaries are.

And it behooves us to respect those boundaries.

The book referenced limits God.
God is unable to limit HimSelf.

 

[Mountainmike]

You surprise me. According to your profile, you live in the northern UK, so I always assumed that you were Scottish.

It’s a cultural thing . Londoners think they alone speak for U.K and that anyone who lives north of Watford is a northerner that lives in a mud hut, whose voice does not count!
But We are proud to be northern!

We here in’t north think the national anthem needs the last verse putting back!

"Lord grant that Marshal Wade, May by thy mighty aid, Victory bring. May he sedition hush, And like a torrent rush, Rebellious Scots to crush, God Save the King!!
Even the Romans could not civilize the Scot’s. Built Hadrians wall to keep them out,

We live in the place between.
Which is most of it!

 

[dlamberth]

i was referencing the creation ...

As was I.

 

[AV1611VET]

Let there be Light.

Genesis 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

1. Light is not capitalized. It is either the electromagnetic spectrum, or the visible part of it.
2. God saying LET THERE BE LIGHT comes after the earth is created; not before it.

Put the New Age philosophy back on the shelf and get the right Book down.

Without that Divine Light nothing happens.

Oh, plenty happens with that "Divine Light."

Astral projection, high level eavesdropping, out of the head body experiences, spiritual energy healing, and a host of other demonic stuff.

The book referenced limits God.

The Book referenced only reports God's limitations.

God is unable to limit HimSelf.

Yes, He can.

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

 

[dlamberth]

Genesis 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

1. Light is not capitalized. It is either the electromagnetic spectrum, or the visible part of it.
2. God saying LET THERE BE LIGHT comes after the earth is created; not before it.

Put the New Age philosophy back on the shelf and get the right Book down.

I know nothing of New Age philosophy.
For me, it's having God as my reality and what that means and how God is seen, heard and even smelled.
The Right Book I read is Life itSelf. It's the ONLY book directly written by the hand of God.
Within Life, Light shines. That becomes crystal clear to me when watching the eyes of my grandchild when she is in joy.

Oh, plenty happens with that "Divine Light."

Astral projection, high level eavesdropping, out of the head body experiences, spiritual energy healing, and a host of other demonic stuff.

Sounds like you know more about that stuff than I.

The Book referenced only reports God's limitations.



Yes, He can.

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

We clearly worship different God's of which I feel very blessed.

 

[JohnEmmett]

make life on Earth by evolution

Buddhism says it was devolution


Basically spirits became physical