Trump is asked, "how has your faith grown since you decided in 2015 to run for president?"

[stevil]

In order for my tomato plant to grow, I have to actually have a tomato plant.
Unfortunately he is lying to those of faith for the sake of his political well being.

I don't see it as a big deal. He didn't actually lie.
He didn't pretend to be a Christian. He distracted and avoided directly answering the question. That's typically what politicians do.
They feel the need to say something, give a response, but they don't need to actually answer the question. They just don't want to present dead air.

 

[Say it aint so]

More speculation about Trump "would have done". I am clearly not the one here without knowledge who is just opining random things.

By contrast, millions have come in to numerous Biden family members (9, as I recall) and the records reflect that. Even Politifact admits it, but claims "President Biden didn't know". I know when multiple members of MY family suddenly come into millions of dollars, I don't notice at all. (sarcasm).

"The available information does not prove Biden himself knew about his family members’ business deals or benefited from the payments.

The released bank records show that businesses connected to the Biden family received more than $10 million from foreign companies, both during and after President Joe Biden’s vice presidency. Republicans have been investigating the Biden family’s business dealings for evidence of wrongdoing or conflicts of interest. "

Claims about the Biden family’s foreign business, explained

After House Republicans released bank records from their investigation into Biden family business dealings, the phrases

www.politifact.com

Tongue in cheek. So again I ask you, "Who testified to Biden being paid off?" as you claim.

 

[Say it aint so]

I don't see it as a big deal. He didn't actually lie.
He didn't pretend to be a Christian. He distracted and avoided directly answering the question. That's typically what politicians do.
They feel the need to say something, give a response, but they don't need to actually answer the question. They just don't want to present dead air.

Not just this incident. Trump is parading himself as a Christian when clearly given this his past incidents, he is not. That's the lie.

 

[stevil]

Not just this incident. Trump is parading himself as a Christian when clearly given this his past incidents, he is not. That's the lie.

His walking across the road where the BLM protesters where in order to stand outside a church and hold a bible upside down was just absurd.

And that time when asked if the OT or NT was his favourite. His answer was just classic. "Oh I like the equally".
It is plainly obvious he has no interest as to what is in the bible.

 

[Say it aint so]

His walking across the road where the BLM protesters where in order to stand outside a church and hold a bible upside down was just absurd.

And that time when asked if the OT or NT was his favourite. His answer was just classic. "Oh I like the equally".
It is plainly obvious he has no interest as to what is in the bible.

Or his favorite verse "two Corinthians" which would be good start for a joke about "two Corinthians walked into a bar...."

 

[bèlla]

They asked about his faith not his faith in God. It's unlikely the distinction would change his answer. Without physical engagement you're forced to glean from his words and deeds to examine the fruit. Is he a Christian? For some he is. Others say no and many divide along political lines. And if he wasn't a politician or wealthy many would probably answer differently.

He appears in the Nextflix film The Family. If you haven't seen it you should. It isn't a speaking role but its clear he has many around him from the flock influencing him.

~bella

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

Tongue in cheek. So again I ask you, "Who testified to Biden being paid off?" as you claim.

Numerous people have spoken to this. Business partner Tony Bobulinski.

Tony Bobulinski confirmed shortly before the 2020 presidential election that the laptop evidence linking Joe to Hunter’s foreign business dealings and a Senate report on the Biden family’s potentially criminal business activity were both accurate.

An analysis of Joe Biden’s financial records by the DailyMail shows almost $7 million dollars more in income on his tax returns than he did on his government transparency reports. Some of that difference can be accounted for with salaries earned by First Lady Jill Biden and other sums not required on his reports – but still leaves $5.2 million earned by Joe’s company and not listed on his transparency reports.

Financial Records Reveal Biden had $5.2 million in Unexplained Income | 77 WABC

NEW YORK (77 WABC) — Emails reveal that Joe Biden agreed to pay his son Hunter's legal fees related to his deal with a Chinese government-controlled company. Hunter's assistant Katie Dodge w

wabcradio.com

TWO IRS Whistleblowers, Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler (the latter a Democrat, if that matters) testified that the financial records indicated excess income. Shapley, who testified to Congress, revealed the verified WhatsApp message from Hunter to a Chinese official said he "was sitting here with my father" and you'd better pay now. Shapley wasn't allowed to investigate it further.

A review conducted by the House Oversight Committee confirmed that at least nine Biden family members received millions in payments from shell companies that came from foreign companies during and shortly after Joe’s vice presidency.


Another business partner of Hunter Biden, and Burisma exec, Devon Archer,is scheduled to testify next week that Joe Biden actually sat in on business meetings while Joe was VP of the United States. Hope he makes it, as he has received threats.

Evidence points to Joe Biden getting the prosecutor looking into his son's dealings at Burisma fired.

There's certainly enough there to know something is shady and to seriously investigate in a non-partisan way. Instead, all we here is "But TRUMP IS BAD!" and complete dismissal of everything that has turned up so far.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

As a President, I'm pretty sure he isn't claiming he did anything alone. That's not the issue, so the question remains unanswered: Can we agree that according to Trump's words, Trump believes he made America great as President? Did Trump believe this or not?...."I am so happy I did it because I've made America great".

In context:
In one clip that has begun circulating on social media, a woman approached the microphone and asked, “How has your faith grown since you decided in 2015 to run for president, and who has mentored you on your faith journey?”


“Such a great question,” Trump responded. “You know, I’ve seen so much heartache and turmoil. I was a developer, and I did other things. And, you know, I had a wonderful—I had a wonderful life before all this stuff. I didn’t know what a grand jury was. I didn’t know what a subpoena—what is a subpoena? I had a wonderful life.”

“I’m so glad—they asked me the other day a little different question: ‘Are you glad you did it? You had a great life. Are you glad you did it?’” Trump continued. “I couldn’t be more glad. I am so happy I did it, because I’ve made America great. We can do it again. Right now…we are not a great country. We are not a great country.”

Yeah, sounds pompous. That's how he talks. Humility in speech is not a strength. Nor is it for the current President, as he demonizes half the country on a regular basis and has done so since he took office, on the pretext he would be a "uniter".

So yeah, you take the bad with the good, but Trump never mandated anything, had better policies, and the country and the economy were stable. So that's something.

 

[childeye 2]

In context:
In one clip that has begun circulating on social media, a woman approached the microphone and asked, “How has your faith grown since you decided in 2015 to run for president, and who has mentored you on your faith journey?”


“Such a great question,” Trump responded. “You know, I’ve seen so much heartache and turmoil. I was a developer, and I did other things. And, you know, I had a wonderful—I had a wonderful life before all this stuff. I didn’t know what a grand jury was. I didn’t know what a subpoena—what is a subpoena? I had a wonderful life.”

“I’m so glad—they asked me the other day a little different question: ‘Are you glad you did it? You had a great life. Are you glad you did it?’” Trump continued. “I couldn’t be more glad. I am so happy I did it, because I’ve made America great. We can do it again. Right now…we are not a great country. We are not a great country.”

Yeah, sounds pompous. That's how he talks. Humility in speech is not a strength. Nor is it for the current President, as he demonizes half the country on a regular basis and has done so since he took office, on the pretext he would be a "uniter".

So yeah, you take the bad with the good, but Trump never mandated anything, had better policies, and the country and the economy were stable. So that's something.

It "sounds pompous" because he's expressing his sentiments about his self as president, and it's a carnal reflection of self. He always talks like that. Think about this: A sincere humility in speech doesn't present as weakness to those who also speak as if they depend upon God for wisdom; People who know that God exalts those who humble themselves, and humbles those who exalt themselves.

 

[NxNW]

So yeah, you take the bad with the good, but Trump never mandated anything, had better policies, and the country and the economy were stable. So that's something.

Biden's policies are better, and the country and economy are more stable now.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

Biden's policies are better, and the country and economy are more stable now.

Actually Biden is the most divisive President in history (or whoever is running this show). Biden's policies caused 1) energy insecurity when we were previously secure, 2) created an unprecedented border crisis with millions flowing in unvetted (and unvaccinated during the pandemic when Americans were forced just to keep jobs) as well as millions of pounds of fentynal and other drugs since the cartels control the border now, 3) the Afghanistan withdrawal debacle that cost American lives, left Americans and allies in Afghanistan AND gave them billions in equipment, 4) Unconstitutional mandates for a drug with zero long term testing, thankfully stricken down by the Supreme Court (at least if you were fortunate enough not to work in healthcare) and 5) criminal behavior taking over most large cities where people are fleeing, 6) massive inflation that has only dropped a bit, and the highest interest rates for a couple decades. The Administration is the most incompetent we have ever seen.

But if one likes that kind of thing, I guess you have what you wanted. Personally, I would prefer safe cities, enough weapons for the U.S., in case they are ever needed, the billions that have just disappeared, unaccounted for, back in competent control, a secure border, people in charge with enough common sense not to mandate new (or any) drugs for others, and low interest rates and full shelves again, among other things.

 

[Belk]

Actually Biden is the most divisive President in history (or whoever is running this show). Biden's policies caused 1) energy insecurity when we were previously secure, 2) created an unprecedented border crisis with millions flowing in unvetted (and unvaccinated during the pandemic when Americans were forced just to keep jobs) as well as millions of pounds of fentynal and other drugs since the cartels control the border now, 3) the Afghanistan withdrawal debacle that cost American lives, left Americans and allies in Afghanistan AND gave them billions in equipment, 4) Unconstitutional mandates for a drug with zero long term testing, thankfully stricken down by the Supreme Court (at least if you were fortunate enough not to work in healthcare) and 5) criminal behavior taking over most large cities where people are fleeing, 6) massive inflation that has only dropped a bit, and the highest interest rates for a couple decades. The Administration is the most incompetent we have ever seen.

But if one likes that kind of thing, I guess you have what you wanted. Personally, I would prefer safe cities, enough weapons for the U.S., in case they are ever needed, the billions that have just disappeared, unaccounted for, back in competent control, a secure border, people in charge with enough common sense not to mandate new (or any) drugs for others, and low interest rates and full shelves again, among other things.

Yeah, just ignore that guy in the white house when we had an actual civil war.

 

[USincognito]

An analysis of Joe Biden’s financial records by the DailyMail shows almost $7 million dollars more in income on his tax returns than he did on his government transparency reports. Some of that difference can be accounted for with salaries earned by First Lady Jill Biden and other sums not required on his reports – but still leaves $5.2 million earned by Joe’s company and not listed on his transparency reports.

Financial Records Reveal Biden had $5.2 million in Unexplained Income | 77 WABC

NEW YORK (77 WABC) — Emails reveal that Joe Biden agreed to pay his son Hunter's legal fees related to his deal with a Chinese government-controlled company. Hunter's assistant Katie Dodge w

wabcradio.com

Interesting. The Daily Mail article is from April 2022 and the WABC article is just reporting on the original. I'm not seeing anything else about since and I haven't heard anything about it coming up in Comer's 3 ring circus.

Shapley, who testified to Congress, revealed the verified WhatsApp message from Hunter to a Chinese official said he "was sitting here with my father" and you'd better pay now.

That cartoonishly over the top WhatsApp text hasn't been verified and all evidence points to it being fake.

Hunter Biden attorney says WhatsApp message cited by Republicans is fake

In a purported 2017 message to a Chinese businessman, Hunter Biden allegedly threatened retaliation from his father, who was then a former vice president.

www.nbcnews.com

A review conducted by the House Oversight Committee confirmed that at least nine Biden family members received millions in payments from shell companies that came from foreign companies during and shortly after Joe’s vice presidency.

NO! Not shell companies!!! Oh, you mean LLCs, which many people in business use to limit liability or for tax purposes. I've heard the the ex-President had 500 of them personally and that his Org had another 1500 of them. I wonder what shady business he's involved in.

Another business partner of Hunter Biden, and Burisma exec, Devon Archer,is scheduled to testify next week that Joe Biden actually sat in on business meetings while Joe was VP of the United States. Hope he makes it, as he has received threats.

You mean the Devon Archer who is mad at the Bidens for not using Joe Biden's power and influence to keep him out of prison? It's weird how many of these Republican "whistleblowers" are criminals.

Evidence points to Joe Biden getting the prosecutor looking into his son's dealings at Burisma fired.

Ahem...

Why are we still needing to correct right wing folks on this almost three years after it was first debunked?

1. Vice President's have very little control over money outside of that which funds their office.
2. President Obama and others in the U.S. government wanted Shokin removed because he was corrupt and wasn't investigating anyone.
3. The U.S. wasn't the only entity that wanted him gone. The EU, NATO and the IMF did too. In fact IMF was going to withhold $20 bn in loan guarantees if he and others weren't removed.
4. Then VP Biden was delivering a message on behalf of President Obama - we will not be giving you the aid unless you work to clean up corruption.

Trump Revives False Narrative on Biden and Ukraine - FactCheck.org

At a campaign rally in Iowa, President Trump cited an unsubstantiated news report to revive a widely debunked false narrative about Joe Biden's work in Ukraine on behalf of the Obama administration.

www.factcheck.org

Fact check: Biden leveraged $1B in aid to Ukraine to oust corrupt prosecutor, not to help his son

Despite a Senate GOP investigation that found no wrongdoing by Joe Biden on foreign policy in Ukraine, claims to the contrary continue to circulate.

www.usatoday.com

Shokin wasn't looking into Hunter or Burisma. He wasn't looking into anything because he was corrupt. That's why the US, etc. wanted him removed.

 

[NxNW]

Actually Biden is the most divisive President in history (or whoever is running this show).

Measured how?

Biden's policies caused 1) energy insecurity when we were previously secure, 2) created an unprecedented border crisis with millions flowing in unvetted (and unvaccinated during the pandemic when Americans were forced just to keep jobs) as well as millions of pounds of fentynal and other drugs since the cartels control the border now, 3) the Afghanistan withdrawal debacle that cost American lives, left Americans and allies in Afghanistan AND gave them billions in equipment, 4) Unconstitutional mandates for a drug with zero long term testing, thankfully stricken down by the Supreme Court (at least if you were fortunate enough not to work in healthcare) and 5) criminal behavior taking over most large cities where people are fleeing, 6) massive inflation that has only dropped a bit, and the highest interest rates for a couple decades.

All that is false.

 

[Say it aint so]

Numerous people have spoken to this. Business partner Tony Bobulinski.

Tony Bobulinski confirmed shortly before the 2020 presidential election that the laptop evidence linking Joe to Hunter’s foreign business dealings and a Senate report on the Biden family’s potentially criminal business activity were both accurate.

An analysis of Joe Biden’s financial records by the DailyMail shows almost $7 million dollars more in income on his tax returns than he did on his government transparency reports. Some of that difference can be accounted for with salaries earned by First Lady Jill Biden and other sums not required on his reports – but still leaves $5.2 million earned by Joe’s company and not listed on his transparency reports.

Financial Records Reveal Biden had $5.2 million in Unexplained Income | 77 WABC

NEW YORK (77 WABC) — Emails reveal that Joe Biden agreed to pay his son Hunter's legal fees related to his deal with a Chinese government-controlled company. Hunter's assistant Katie Dodge w

wabcradio.com

TWO IRS Whistleblowers, Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler (the latter a Democrat, if that matters) testified that the financial records indicated excess income. Shapley, who testified to Congress, revealed the verified WhatsApp message from Hunter to a Chinese official said he "was sitting here with my father" and you'd better pay now. Shapley wasn't allowed to investigate it further.

A review conducted by the House Oversight Committee confirmed that at least nine Biden family members received millions in payments from shell companies that came from foreign companies during and shortly after Joe’s vice presidency.


Another business partner of Hunter Biden, and Burisma exec, Devon Archer,is scheduled to testify next week that Joe Biden actually sat in on business meetings while Joe was VP of the United States. Hope he makes it, as he has received threats.

Evidence points to Joe Biden getting the prosecutor looking into his son's dealings at Burisma fired.

There's certainly enough there to know something is shady and to seriously investigate in a non-partisan way. Instead, all we here is "But TRUMP IS BAD!" and complete dismissal of everything that has turned up so far.

One more time, "Who testified to Biden being paid off?

 

[Fantine]

In response to your question: How has Trump's faith grown since 2015?

Ding, ding, ding!

A. He's become much, much better at playing the martyr.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

Yeah, just ignore that guy in the white house when we had an actual civil war.

Nonsubstantive response to a side point. You did not address the topic.

Your side point is false. No Civil War has occurred since 1865. Nor have we had, as suggested by false narratives in media, an "insurrection' or "coup"; it literally never happened. Did not fit the legal criteria. Anything substantive to say about the topic I addressed?

 

[Belk]

Nonsubstantive response to a side point. You did not address the topic.

Your side point is false. No Civil War has occurred since 1865. Nor have we had, as suggested by false narratives in media, an "insurrection' or "coup"; it literally never happened. Did not fit the legal criteria. Anything substantive to say about the topic I addressed?

That's nice. Still does not change the fact he is not the "the most divisive President in history".

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

Interesting. The Daily Mail article is from April 2022 and the WABC article is just reporting on the original. I'm not seeing anything else about since and I haven't heard anything about it coming up in Comer's 3 ring circus.


That cartoonishly over the top WhatsApp text hasn't been verified and all evidence points to it being fake.

Hunter Biden attorney says WhatsApp message cited by Republicans is fake

In a purported 2017 message to a Chinese businessman, Hunter Biden allegedly threatened retaliation from his father, who was then a former vice president.

www.nbcnews.com

NO! Not shell companies!!! Oh, you mean LLCs, which many people in business use to limit liability or for tax purposes. I've heard the the ex-President had 500 of them personally and that his Org had another 1500 of them. I wonder what shady business he's involved in.

You mean the Devon Archer who is mad at the Bidens for not using Joe Biden's power and influence to keep him out of prison? It's weird how many of these Republican "whistleblowers" are criminals.

Ahem...

Shokin wasn't looking into Hunter or Burisma. He wasn't looking into anything because he was corrupt. That's why the US, etc. wanted him removed.

Every statement you made here is twisted by erroneous reporting or false. I don't have time to address each today, but the one that jumped out was that WhatsApp text has been verified, AND it came directly from the Cloud by Shapley, the IRS whistleblower, not from some second hand gossip source.

But you have clearly identified a tactic that the media uses on the less discerning, the same media that pretended the laptop was "Russian disinformation" in order to get Biden into office.
NBC News:

"IRS Supervisory Special Agent Gary Shapley told the committee under oath that, as an investigator for the IRS, he obtained messages Hunter Biden sent on the WhatsApp platform, including one in 2017 that he read demanding payment from a Chinese businessman named Henry Zhao.

In the message, Shapley said, Biden appeared to suggest that he was sitting with his father, then the former vice president, saying, “I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not following my direction.”

Attorneys for Shapley said in a statement, “Biden family lawyers have resorted to intimidation before — reportedly threatening federal prosecutors with “career suicide” if they charged Hunter Biden — so this attempt to intimidate our client and the oversight authorities scrutinizing the politicization of that case is no surprise.”

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

One more time, "Who testified to Biden being paid off?

One more time: If millions of dollars from shady companies suddenly appear in your family members' accounts who have no legitimate business, unaccounted for in tax returns, AND you are known to send messages (verified from the Cloud by the IRS investigator) like “I am sitting here with my Father and we would like to know why the commitment has not been fulfilled." you are getting very close to connecting the puzzle pieces. The fact that whistleblowers and documents and tax returns and witnesses are pouring forth is substantive.

It's only the willfully ignorant who would simply say, "Well, clearly this is entirely above-board and not at all worthy of investigations and charges."